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10-15X as potent as Oxandrolone with a similar effectprofile (high A;A ratio, non-estrogenic, non-toxic to animals at viable dosing)
ie. 5mg = 50-75mg Oxandrolone


Is this true??????
 
Sounds too good to be true...although I hope it is.
 
I have access to it but I'm not going to be the ginny pig for this stuff. Any ohter people here can bump this and explain it further???
 
babbabuee said:
let's hear the name!!! bumpity bump
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I don't know shit about this product but the guy that does will hopefully chime in since I asked him to explain it in more detail.
 
E23 said:
Juice Authority please delete this post until further research is done.

17aa-NM very funny
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Who are you to tell me to delete this post????
 
babbabuee said:
let's hear the name!!! bumpity bump
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The actual chem name will be given soon, but the anabolic attributes are pretty dead on.
 
It is too new to have any feedback on it......however, as I'm sure you know, the person offering it is not a fool and only offers top quality products that have been proven to work by him.....he wouldn't just sell something and 'hope' it works for you.
 
EngiCream said:
It is too new to have any feedback on it......however, as I'm sure you know, the person offering it is not a fool and only offers top quality products that have been proven to work by him.....he wouldn't just sell something and 'hope' it works for you.
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Thank you and the as EngiCream can probably verify the person selling IS NOT ME!
 
So are you guys done with this thread? Anymore feedack from those that know who I'm talking about and what the results have been?
 
Spidey said:
That wouldn't be 17-AA-Nelson Montana would it?

LOL, you got me.
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NM has nothing to do with this particular guy. Nothing at all.
 
I can say with great confidence that JA is NOT selling this stuff.

There probably won't be much feedback at all until it starts shipping and people get a week or two into it.....it's just too new and to my knowledge (I could be wrong) has never been offered by anyone before.

Juice Authority said:


Thank you and the as EngiCream can probably verify the person selling IS NOT ME!
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EngiCream said:
oh Lord no...haha..that would be a total insult to him....who wants to be associated with NM?

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I emailed him and told him some people were thinking NM was behind this. I can't wait for his response.
 
The Terminator said:
LOL, Can I take one guess as to who you guys are talking about ;)
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Only one guess....:D

If you're right the next TJ blow job is on me.
 
The Terminator said:


Just for the hell of it I might...:D

How big are you though?...I don't want your big ass getting us pulled into a secondary search...
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Well, with all the T-rex I'm down to 223lbs. I'm 5:11"
 
sk* said:
Now there are steroids named after Nelson?

Shit, nothing like nelson in a bottle. :mad:

-sk
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I had to laugh at this one.

BTW, is this crazy stuff expensive or what? (Please don't give an exact price or thread will be locked)
 
i don't believe it ever been available to the general research community and BTW it is a legal prohormone...hehe.....and no it will not be available for another two weeks
 
Does anyone have more feedback on this..

i am up in the air on ordering this or ordering real var and would like some opinions..

right now i am leaning towards this new compound
 
The bottom line here is the guy has a good rep and this product is not yet on the market. It will be soon though. 10-15X as potent as Oxandrolone with a similar effect profile (high A;A ratio, non-estrogenic, non-toxic to animals at viable dosing) i.e. 5mg = 50-75mg Oxandrolone. That's about all I know for now.... more will be revealed as time marches on. So who's going to be the Ginny pig for this one??? I nominate The Terminator...:D
 
If we knew more about the compound, like it's real scientific name maybe, then I might give it a try. Would like to know if it's related to any other AAS out there so I can decide if it might be good for me.
 
The Terminator said:
lol, no expensive new drugs for me...I have a teenage girl (I'm lucky to even have enough protein powder right now :o )
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A teenage girl is more expensive than a year long cycle of GH and plastic surgery.
 
BigAndy69 said:


A teenage girl is more expensive than a year long cycle of GH and plastic surgery.
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Tell me about it...:o

I am happy when I get to buy myself 'one' new tshirt (yet she always has new clothes...courtesy of me ;) ) She is my top priority :heart:
 
Juice Authority said:
The bottom line here is the guy has a good rep and this product is not yet on the market. It will be soon though. 10-15X as potent as Oxandrolone with a similar effect profile (high A;A ratio, non-estrogenic, non-toxic to animals at viable dosing) i.e. 5mg = 50-75mg Oxandrolone. That's about all I know for now.... more will be revealed as time marches on. So who's going to be the Ginny pig for this one??? I nominate The Terminator...:D
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me me me me:D LOL
 
any feedback on this product yet?
 
the name is 7aa-Methyl-4OHN

i know a site that sell this stuff and its very expensive
thy claim that 17aa-1-Testosterone (3-4 times the potency of Tren!!!) and the 7a-OHN (10 times the potency of Oxandrolone!!!)
This compound is MENT with a 4-OH group.....people say it effects on ventral prostrate and seminal vesicle.The OH group keeps the compound from having a estrogenic or progestagenic activity, so they claim its low in side effects.
in the near future there will be few new site selling it
 
so it is 7a-17a-dimethyl-4-hydroxy-nortestosterone?

Then the compound would be "cheque drops" with a 4-OH group, not MENT, which does not have a 17a methyl group.

I think on paper this stuff should be quite effective and liver toxic.
 
Sig: how much MORE liv toxic than any other 17-aa (say anavar). If it's the same toxicity, then MAYBE (if the claims are true about its anabolic/androgen ratio and potency......which I DO NOT believe for the record.......not yet anyway) it's worth a shot.
 
I can't find any info....but I'll be happy to try it. I was wanting to do some var in Jan & Feb...so if anyone wants to let me in on it...I'll make the purchace, and keep everyone updated.
 
Juice Authority said:
The bottom line here is the guy has a good rep and this product is not yet on the market. It will be soon though. 10-15X as potent as Oxandrolone with a similar effect profile (high A;A ratio, non-estrogenic, non-toxic to animals at viable dosing) i.e. 5mg = 50-75mg Oxandrolone. That's about all I know for now.... more will be revealed as time marches on. So who's going to be the Ginny pig for this one??? I nominate The Terminator...:D
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Now being its 10-15x stronger does that mean its 10-15x more expensive?? Or is the price right around the average price of OX giving us some increadible savings.
Now if i only knew who you were talking about so i could get some of this sweetness.
 
Miberolone is reported to be madly liver toxic. People couldn't take even small doses for more than two weeks without having elevated liver values. I think that is part of the reason Cheque Drops fell out of favor.

Adding a 4-hydroxy does not address the liver toxicity problem. I would bet the farm that it is quite liver toxic. I wouldn't dream of taking it myself before I saw the results of some testing in that regard.
 
Paper efficacy is just that--paper.

Look up the relative potency of halotestin and see for yourselves.

Mg for mg halo looks like the all time steroid on paper.

Real life proves different, though, as usual.

The reason is that x times potency does not in any way suggest x times gains.

Otherwise, we would all gain twice as much muscle with tren as we do with test.

As for sides, it has already been noted that the alkylation has not been addressed at all from a chemical standpoint, so where is the logic supporting minimal sides?

There is none.
 
Fukkenshredded said:


As for sides, it has already been noted that the alkylation has not been addressed at all from a chemical standpoint, so where is the logic supporting minimal sides?

There is none.
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I agree. There is very little info about this with scientific backing. Not enough to make me want to test it on myself. I have a hard time believing that some underground lab discovered such a drug with effective low doses and no sides. Certainly this would have a huge pharmaceutical market if it were true.
 
there are some people who are testing this stuff and they say they got good results, but most of them had stack it with other methylated prohormones mainly M1T........so i dont know. they are selling this stuff as a research product. there will be more methylated products comming soon like 17a-methyl-1,4-diol
7aa-Methyl-4OHN and 17aa-1-Testosterone !!!!!!
 
x_muscle said:
there are some people who are testing this stuff and they say they got good results, but most of them had stack it with other methylated prohormones mainly M1T........so i dont know. they are selling this stuff as a research product. there will be more methylated products comming soon like 17a-methyl-1,4-diol
7aa-Methyl-4OHN and 17aa-1-Testosterone !!!!!!
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17a methyl-1-test is not a prohormone. It does not need to be "converted" in the body to anything else; it is an active hormone all on it's own. I think it (along with 1-test) will soon be illegal and scheduled just like any other AS.

Fukkinshredded makes a good point though. On Paper, 17-methyl-1-test is hundreds of times more potent than test but in real life the results were not so profound. Prolangtum over at superior muscle recently tested it on himself at 20 mg ed for 8 weeks (I think). He noted good pumps and hardness but very little LBM gain. I don't think he posted any data on his blood work afterward either. His liver values may have been off the chart for all we know.
 
Okay... I have already biten on the bait. I have been waiting for it seems a half hour on some new news. So somepone PLEASE tell me about this stuff.

You guys looking for a guinny pig, well oink oink.
Just pay for all of my protien.:D

Whiskey
 
there still is no feedback on this except for what the "guy" has posted about his friends using it and he has not gone into detail on the results just that he compares it to var...

i hope its a great success for him and for us
 
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