17...Need advise with cycle

[CarpeDiem]

Hi...please dont flame me..im not a teen punk lookin to juice to get pussy....Im preparing for my senior year of football...I go to a Quad A school that gets heavily recruited....Football has been my life and I want to continue playing it in College for Div 1...I have alot of talent..i was the only Junior starting on my team last year...but not to say I didnt get pushed around by the other teams...I need the edge..I need the advantage...Ive been researching AAS for a little under 2 years now and I want to hit my cycle so I can have a chance at my dream....also..i already got a bone scan x-ray thing and my growth plates have been closed since I was 16...I am 6'2...Here is what I want to do:

Week 1-10: 750mg Test Enath
Week 1-6: Fina 50mg ED
Week 1-3: 100mg Test Susp ED
Week 1-4: 40mg DBOL ED
Week 12-16: Clomid,Nolva
1mg Arimidex run ED for entire cycle

also I have been looking to increase indurance so I can still be fresh in the 4rth quarter when it counts...ive been researching EPO for a little while...can anyone recommend it?

I am 6'2, 195lbs, 14%B/F...and i play inside linebacker


Thank You for Your Time

 

[Canuck4]

Thats pretty heavy for a first cycle bro.
Your first should be simple with Test only or maybe Test and dbol.
You'll grow regardless.

 

[DeepZenPill]

You're 17, you don't need a cycle. Trust me, when I was 18 I thought I needed AAS to break through my plateau. Well after coming here and reading to prepare for the cycle I started eating and training right and broke through naturally. I found out with my naturally high test levels I didn't need shit at that point. Bust your ass in the gym, eat like a horse and you'll realize you don't need shit yet.

But if you're going to do it anyway, you don't need that for your first cycle. I would say test and dbol, or just plain fina alone. I know a lot of college football players who use fina as their all purpose roid of choice.

 

[40butpumpin]

At 17 what you need to work on is your speed, your endurance and your heart.

If you eat well, get the right rest, and concentrate on big, full body movements like dead-lifts, squats and clean and presses your size and strength will take care of itself.

But as far as speed, endurance and heart goes, these are the things that will give you "the edge" as you say. No AAS in the world will give these to you my friend.

If you want to be a real standout in football, forget about anabolic steroids. Coaches do not want muscle-bound animals, they want fast, natural atheletes, with hearts as big as houses.

Don't be stupid man, listen to what I'm telling you here.

 

[Paulos]

If he has researched for two years he is going to juice reguardless of you guys telling him he doesn't need a cycle. I am not going to say anything as I have no business telling anyone not to juice as I am only 19 myself. I am in no way approving of or encouraging you to do a cycle whatsoever, but being a young guy too I understand the allure. With that said Carpediem, that is way too much for a first cycle.

If I were you I would run this...

Test @ 500mg/Wk Weeks 1-10
Armidex @ .5mg/ED Throughout
Standard Clomid Therapy at the end

40mg of Dbol for a first time is insane, you don't even know how you will react to it. If you are looking for Endurance stay away from the Fina, I am guessing you don't even have injection techniques down yet so being forced to inject everyday right off the bat is not fun. The cycle you have set up is going to cost you an assload of money and put your body under a ton of strain.

 

[Jack Diesel]

[QUOTEWeek 1-10: 750mg Test Enath
Week 1-6: Fina 50mg ED
Week 1-3: 100mg Test Susp ED
Week 1-4: 40mg DBOL ED
Week 12-16: Clomid,Nolva
1mg Arimidex run ED for entire cycle

[/B][/QUOTE]

Thats wierd. Whats the suspension for and why in the beginning of the cycle? Why even use Fina if you've never done a cycle before? 750mg enth. is nice, but why so much if youve never done it before? Just questions? My opinion is no better than anyone elses, but Id just do this

week 1-2
750mg Test enth.
400mg Deca
25 mg dbol

week 3-4
500mg test enth.
300mg Deca
25mg dbol

week 5-8
500mg tets enth.
300mg deca

week 11 start clomid therapy. and .5 ml of liquidex ED thru out. You wont need Nolva if youre taking liquidex.

 

[The Almighty]

That looks for like a 4th cycle to me.

Test @ 500mg/week
Dbol @ 30mg/day for weeks 1-4

 

[bigerisbetter]

I would have to agree with almighty. Your not going to get much diffrent results with your cycle vs almighty suggestion. Youll grow alot with very lttle gear your first cycle. just eat like a horse.

 

[Golden_Muscle]

Your cycle is too strong. 8 amps of sust will give you 23lbs of solid muscle, it did for me and I was 20.

1. EAT
2. SLEEP
3. TRAIN and nothing else.

 

[Metal Gear]

I have to agree with the guys on this one and this is comming from a guy who does heavy cycles bro. This is way too much for you first cycle. Your first time jucing you will blow up no matter how small of an amount you take. The most basic begginer cycle that I would recommend is:

Week 1-12 Test 600mg
Week 1-5 dbol 30mg ed
(optional) Week 1-12 Deca 400mg

fina is not for beginner but if you still want to do it, I would replace the deca with 75mg eod for week 6-12

 

[IMRCKSOLID]

hes gonna get sick from all that gear and end up worse then where he started.....

 

[genarr3]

At 17 what you need to work on is your speed, your endurance and your heart.

If you eat well, get the right rest, and concentrate on big, full body movements like dead-lifts, squats and clean and presses your size and strength will take care of itself.

But as far as speed, endurance and heart goes, these are the things that will give you "the edge" as you say. No AAS in the world will give these to you my friend.

If you want to be a real standout in football, forget about anabolic steroids. Coaches do not want muscle-bound animals, they want fast, natural atheletes, with hearts as big as houses.

Don't be stupid man, listen to what I'm telling you here.

Good advice. I'll add with your stats you need to start eating ALOT more. Steroids won't do dick unless you're eating right, and weighing only 195 at 6'2" you have a long way to go.

 

[DocTodd]

i know you wont listen to this...even from a doctor, but you are stupid to cycle now. Your bones havent even reached their max. Who says a bone scan will tell you that? Maybe it does, but ive never heard of it. And trust me....scouts know you arent at your full growth yet. THEY KNOW THAT!!!

Dont be an idiot....you arent indestructible like i thought i was when i was 17.

T

 

[gunslinger11]

i cant discourage you because i too started early however, just dont go overboard. you were obviously smart enough to research and learn just take it easy and realize that diet and training is more imprtant than gear. you sound like a smart kid but just try to realize what a big step this is and the complications it could cause in your life. guys im not trying to condone the use early but since i myself am guilty i cant condemn it either, i believe this kid is smart enough to learn and consult the board he can use AAS safely and the bets thing for those of us who want to protect him is to just help him out by answering questions. CarpeDiem feel free to pm me with any questions.