17-hd....is it liver toxic?

[themanc84]

Vyotech's 17-hd is a pro test amplifier....the active ingredient is 17-halo-methyl-dianadrone....

does that mean that 17-hd is a methylated, liver toxic supplement?

 

[dabuffguy]

Actually, no it isn't liver toxic. "methyl" doesn't automatically mean liver toxic. It depends on where that methylation is placed.

One quick indicator is the dose of the hormone. 400mg per dose. If it were liver toxic like you are asking, it would give you serious liver problems in about a week at that dose. You'd get really sick, your skin and eyes would turn yellow (jaundice) and you'd probably start vomiting.

 

[themanc84]

Actually, no it isn't liver toxic. "methyl" doesn't automatically mean liver toxic. It depends on where that methylation is placed.

One quick indicator is the dose of the hormone. 400mg per dose. If it were liver toxic like you are asking, it would give you serious liver problems in about a week at that dose. You'd get really sick, your skin and eyes would turn yellow (jaundice) and you'd probably start vomiting.

haha good point....although the bottle says 400mg and then it lists 4 ingredients...17-halo...Ge Gan, Smilax, and NO Oliliacae...

 

[dabuffguy]

17-Halo-Methyl-Dianadrone contains: smilax (root), 1,3,7-trimethylpurine-2,6-dione hydrate (caffeine), pueraria lobota, amylum (fruit), coix (seed), poria cocos (root), cassia (seed), loutus (leaf), cumquat (fruit), waterplantain rhizome (stem), mulberry (leaf), methionine

Well, check this out^^^


It's not even a real hormone. It's a combo of that crap^^

It makes you think it's a homonal product, and it isn't even really composed of that. So, they use a steroid name to lure you in, and then it turns out there is no hormones in it at all.

This is called being decietful and I wouldn't trust this for that very reason. I tell ya man, there are some real jerks out there doing this crap all over the place. Marketing it as something it really isn't.

I'm glad you asked about it before you bought it.

 

[themanc84]

I bought it a couple of months ago...I had researched it before I bought it so I knew it wasnt a hormonal supplement...I was just looking through my supplements and I noticed it said "methyl" in the ingredients so I was just wondering if that meant it was methylated

actually not a bad product...i felt more energy in the gym, strength increased a little bit....was able to train for 2 hours or more on regular basis