15 lbs on Primo?

[Brewers17]

This is my 5th cycle. I have had much difficulty affording and keeping gains on my past cycles. A large reason for this has been my lack of hcg during the first four (Iknow im a dumbass). My goal is to gain a very lean and solid 15 lbs post PCT. The diet will be in check and Protein at 200-250g/day.

Lookin like:

Weeks 1-10 Test E 750mg/week
Weeks 1-10 primo 400mg/week

Should I do one or more of the following?

1.) Increase Cycle length to 12 weeks for the primo? (Test gains plateau at 10 weeks for me)

2.) Decrease Test to 500mg? (750mg optimal gains to sides in past)

3.) Increase primo to 600mg?

4.) Add dbol?

I would appreciate any input you guys might have. If none of the options I put down are any good feel free to totally reconstruct. Lookin to purchase items by next friday so any feedback wil be great help. Thanks brothers.

5th cycle
6'2''
195lbs
8 pack since kindergarden

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Well.. personally I'd gain a shit ton on that much juice.. but I'm one of those people that responds well.

I think some dbol would help.. even if you used it lower dose..
my dbol gains slow after 3 weeks a little.. so maybe even add a 3 week run of 10mg/day ? or even two of those runs with a break between..

Anavar is also a good choice for "solid" gains.

 

[gladiator21]

add tren and save your $

 

[tripleOG]

This is my 5th cycle. I have had much difficulty affording and keeping gains on my past cycles. A large reason for this has been my lack of hcg during the first four (Iknow im a dumbass). My goal is to gain a very lean and solid 15 lbs post PCT. The diet will be in check and Protein at 200-250g/day.

Lookin like:

Weeks 1-10 Test E 750mg/week
Weeks 1-10 primo 400mg/week

Should I do one or more of the following?

1.) Increase Cycle length to 12 weeks for the primo? (Test gains plateau at 10 weeks for me)

2.) Decrease Test to 500mg? (750mg optimal gains to sides in past)

3.) Increase primo to 600mg?

4.) Add dbol?

I would appreciate any input you guys might have. If none of the options I put down are any good feel free to totally reconstruct. Lookin to purchase items by next friday so any feedback wil be great help. Thanks brothers.

5th cycle
6'2''
195lbs
8 pack since kindergarden

yes, 12 weeks for the primo
yes, increase primo to 600.
I heard the dbol gains are hard to keep post pct so I don't think thats necessary.
I'm up 10lbs in 4 weeks so far on 600mg primo 400mg of test and 400 mg of masteron a week. Gonna run it for 12-14 weeks and add Anavar the last 6 weeks. 15 lbs shouldn't be too difficult but you should definitely up your protien to like 350 grams a day in my opinion. The juice can only do so much without that protien.

 

[Brewers17]

Good info bro. Will def up the protein intake and increase the cycle length to 12 weeks. What do you think about 500g a piece of test and primo?

yes, 12 weeks for the primo
yes, increase primo to 600.
I heard the dbol gains are hard to keep post pct so I don't think thats necessary.
I'm up 10lbs in 4 weeks so far on 600mg primo 400mg of test and 400 mg of masteron a week. Gonna run it for 12-14 weeks and add Anavar the last 6 weeks. 15 lbs shouldn't be too difficult but you should definitely up your protien to like 350 grams a day in my opinion. The juice can only do so much without that protien.

 

[Dial_tone]

For me the bang for the buck isn't there with Primo unless you're dieting. I can get equal quality gains from Deca or tren for less $$...more sides though.

 

[Brewers17]

Yea the ol weinerskitzel doesnt dig the deca and I just started a new job which will require me to leave my crib at 430 every morning (engineering can really blow) so loss of sleep to tren isnt an option. I dont mind droppin the cash to see what all the hypes about. Thanks for the input though bro.

For me the bang for the buck isn't there with Primo unless you're dieting. I can get equal quality gains from Deca or tren for less $$...more sides though.

 

[Dial_tone]

I tell you I take ZMA and GABA before bed and I don't wake up for jack squat. The other day roommate said she was in my room talking to the dog sitting on my bed at like 3AM and I didn't budge...she probably had an axe in her hand.

 

[Brewers17]

...she probably had an axe in her hand.

lmfao

 

[tripleOG]

For me the bang for the buck isn't there with Primo unless you're dieting. I can get equal quality gains from Deca or tren for less $$...more sides though.

My last 3 cycles were with tren. It's f-ing amazing, and I do feel like the side effects are worth it, but equal gains yes, quality gains I'd say no. Especially with deca, that deca weight isn't that easy to hold on to. And honestly the way my physique looks right now with primo is the best i've ever seen. And i feel great instead of how I feel on tren.

 

[tripleOG]

Good info bro. Will def up the protein intake and increase the cycle length to 12 weeks. What do you think about 500g a piece of test and primo?

I think if you kill it in the gym, eat more and eat well, you will absolutely love 500mg of each for a cycle. I know this is my favorite cycle I've ever done. Not crazy strength like tren, but i don't sweat my balls off while i finally can get to sleep, i don't cough like I have AIDS in my lungs, and I look like I'm walking around with a huge f-ing pump all day. If your broke go with something else, if you're willing to spend a little more money than go with the primo for sure.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I think if you kill it in the gym, eat more and eat well, you will absolutely love 500mg of each for a cycle. I know this is my favorite cycle I've ever done. Not crazy strength like tren, but i don't sweat my balls off while i finally can get to sleep, i don't cough like I have AIDS in my lungs, and I look like I'm walking around with a huge f-ing pump all day. If your broke go with something else, if you're willing to spend a little more money than go with the primo for sure.

I'd like to use Tren without those side effects... any hope with that goal?

how much do you use?

 

[rambleon]

I thin you should do nr. 1,2 and 3. I think u'll keep more of what you gain with:

1-12 400 mg test e ew
1-12 600 mg primo ew

than with 500 of each ew. Primo is really a very very good steroid for people with some patience and discipline.

 

[tripleOG]

I thin you should do nr. 1,2 and 3. I think u'll keep more of what you gain with:

1-12 400 mg test e ew
1-12 600 mg primo ew

than with 500 of each ew. Primo is really a very very good steroid for people with some patience and discipline.

Exactly.

 

[OMEGA]

eat right and gain 25 on that cycle

 

[Brewers17]

Hell yea I appreciate the feedback bros... 205 here I come motha fuckas!

 

[tripleOG]

Hey man just wanted to update you a little bit. Weighed myself today and I'm now up 16 lbs in 5 weeks on primo, test and masteron. Thanks to Needto and his recommendation for this cycle. 15 lbs won't be a problem, get that food in your face though.

 

[AUG1983]

Toss in some IGF during PCT and you wont have to worry about lossing that much plus your love the feeling afterwards

 

[Brewers17]

Hell yea bro great progress I bet your ass is jacked right now.. whats your mg/week split on those compounds?

Hey man just wanted to update you a little bit. Weighed myself today and I'm now up 16 lbs in 5 weeks on primo, test and masteron. Thanks to Needto and his recommendation for this cycle. 15 lbs won't be a problem, get that food in your face though.

 

[Nelson Montana]

With Primo you need to eat a lot of protein. Then you can gain quite a bit.

Im curious to see how GEAR works with primo. I'm imagining it'll be a great combo.

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey man just wanted to update you a little bit. Weighed myself today and I'm now up 16 lbs in 5 weeks on primo, test and masteron. Thanks to Needto and his recommendation for this cycle. 15 lbs won't be a problem, get that food in your face though.

anyone can pm me for help any time guys. Always here to help.

 

[perryscoon]

You're going to lose some gains after every cycle no matter what you do bro. Deal with it and keep cycling. All the HCG, clomid, nolvadex, in the world won't make you keep all your gains. Got it?

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're going to lose some gains after every cycle no matter what you do bro. Deal with it and keep cycling. All the HCG, clomid, nolvadex, in the world won't make you keep all your gains. Got it?

That's because clomid and nolvadex do nothing for maintaining gains.

And HCG just kickstarts the HPTA, after which most people don't continue the recovery properly.

Of course you can't keep 100% of the enhancement when off, but with the right strategy, you can keep most of the gains. ON-GUARD, BRIDGE and GEAR is going to make that a lot easier.

 

[Brewers17]

Not a moron bro. Different compounds yield different results including "real" keepable gains. We do things like hcg throughout the cycle as well as serms and in my case the TRS stack from PP. The key is to realize that everyone reacts differently and therefore finish with varied results. Im trying to find my OWN bread and butter. Dont throw a worthless two cents in especially when you are not even answering the questions asked. Got it?

Learn how to post from needto, definitely the most solid bro out there.

You're going to lose some gains after every cycle no matter what you do bro. Deal with it and keep cycling. All the HCG, clomid, nolvadex, in the world won't make you keep all your gains. Got it?