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1000mg. of Test for a newbie???

wwebound4life

wwebound4life

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I remember reading a while back, I think maybe from Ulter that 1000mg. of test a week should be your starting point right out of the gate. Is this so??

for instance, I'm 31yrs. old, and have only done 2 T-Ball 5 week cycles at 60mg. ED. I'm 5'11 240lbs. and need to lose a good 20-25lbs. of fat before I try some Test! "There is a pic of me in my profile"

Should I really use 1000mg. a week for a first run? :worried: :worried:


Thanks Bro's!






TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
 
500mg of test is enough for anyones first test cycle! Going 1g a week for your first cycle is just going to make it so next time you want to run test you will have to do like 1250-1500mg a week. If you start with 500mg next time you can do 600-750mg and could run like between 3-5 cycles before having to go over a gram a week.
 
wwebound4life said:
I remember reading a while back, I think maybe from Ulter that 1000mg. of test a week should be your starting point right out of the gate. Is this so??

for instance, I'm 31yrs. old, and have only done 2 T-Ball 5 week cycles at 60mg. ED. I'm 5'11 240lbs. and need to lose a good 20-25lbs. of fat before I try some Test! "There is a pic of me in my profile"

Should I really use 1000mg. a week for a first run? :worried: :worried:


Thanks Bro's!






TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
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Start at 500mg per week max. I have run 4 cycles and still never gone above 500mg per week
 
I certainly never saw Ulter post anything like that.

500mg/week is plenty for a newbie and even works for an intermediate. 1g/week of test requires a good, properly dosed AI.
 
Well the reasoning behind using a gram of test for a first cycle makes sense to me. Personaly my first was 400mgs of test cyp and 400mgs of deca thats 8/10ths of a gram of gear total. And at those doses I used during my first cycle it felt rather mild. Although I had great gains i wish I would have used more test. Now some people will argue, Where will your go from there as for as doses are concerned, But there are thousands of different combos of gear and doses. So if I was you id go for it just make sure you use an AI and have PCT in check, good luck.
GMTECH
 
nydj66 said:
I certainly never saw Ulter post anything like that.

500mg/week is plenty for a newbie and even works for an intermediate. 1g/week of test requires a good, properly dosed AI.
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Yes ULTER did say that.
 
He recommended 500mg wk for my first cycle which I followed and got some very good results. 1g is too much!! You have to start out smaller to see how your body will react.
 
muscleup said:
really ?....well I dont agree....500mgs per week will do for sure.
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yes I remember that. his reason is that your gains will never be as good as your first cycle so make the most of it. that not a direct quote, but thats how I understood it.
 
while that is true, more gear does not mean more gains...I used 250mgs per week on my first and gained and kept 20lbs with no PCT.

I hardly ever go above 500mgs of Test per week as I just get more sides...not better gains.
mr.nitro said:
yes I remember that. his reason is that your gains will never be as good as your first cycle so make the most of it. that not a direct quote, but thats how I understood it.
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What about 500mg test E and 400mg Of deca for 12 weeks?
 
muscleup said:
while that is true, more gear does not mean more gains...I used 250mgs per week on my first and gained and kept 20lbs with no PCT.

I hardly ever go above 500mgs of Test per week as I just get more sides...not better gains.
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I get more sides also if I run 500mgs or more a week. I ran it at 750mgs along with a 400mg a week eq cycle and not only was I bloated big time, but I felt so dam lethargic all I wanted to do was sleep and in the end, kept the same amout of muscle as I would have if I would have ran it at 400-500. Besides, you don't know how you're body responds to test, especially if this is your first test cycle. Better to be safe than sorry and make sure you have some nolva on hand for pct and arimidex for during.
 
YoungGuns said:
What about 500mg test E and 400mg Of deca for 12 weeks?
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What about it? You mean is it good for a first cycle? It would be great for most, but its all relative.
 
wwebound4life said:
I remember reading a while back, I think maybe from Ulter that 1000mg. of test a week should be your starting point right out of the gate. Is this so??

for instance, I'm 31yrs. old, and have only done 2 T-Ball 5 week cycles at 60mg. ED. I'm 5'11 240lbs. and need to lose a good 20-25lbs. of fat before I try some Test! "There is a pic of me in my profile"

Should I really use 1000mg. a week for a first run? :worried: :worried:


Thanks Bro's!






TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
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Ulter said this? Does not seem right to me?
 
wwebound4life said:
I remember reading a while back, I think maybe from Ulter that 1000mg. of test a week should be your starting point right out of the gate. Is this so??

for instance, I'm 31yrs. old, and have only done 2 T-Ball 5 week cycles at 60mg. ED. I'm 5'11 240lbs. and need to lose a good 20-25lbs. of fat before I try some Test! "There is a pic of me in my profile"

Should I really use 1000mg. a week for a first run? :worried: :worried:


Thanks Bro's!







TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
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Ulter did post that statement and i agree with him. the first cycle you grow the most and starting at 1g a week is perfect for a newbie.

Ulter will chime in soon on this, i am sure of it. I will post a link to that thread when i find it. too many people dont dose high enough when running gear....drrman will agree as well.
 
mr.nitro said:
yes I remember that. his reason is that your gains will never be as good as your first cycle so make the most of it. that not a direct quote, but thats how I understood it.
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I think you hit that spot on nitro. At least that is how I took his post also.

Personally ive seen guys who dont know anything about proper bodybuilding blow up on 250mg of test per week. Ideally I think 500mg of test would be a very high max for a first cycle. but, this is my very own opinion :artist:
 
Not for me....It = more sides for me.
Ulter said:
Yes he did. Because it's true.

You only get one first cycle. The best chance you're ever going to have to grow. If your goal is to get big this is your chance. The sides from 1000mg aren't much different than 500mg. But the difference in gains is ridiculous.
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Ulter said:
Yes he did. Because it's true.

You only get one first cycle. The best chance you're ever going to have to grow. If your goal is to get big this is your chance. The sides from 1000mg aren't much different than 500mg. But the difference in gains is ridiculous.
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Thats one way to look at it. I won't get started.


Q.
 
Ulter said:
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I'll go get my big brother. :)
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HAHAHA! I doubt you need him big boy! Ulter and I have ALWAYS differed in this area. We have agreed to disagree. It is true your first cycle is best. I only did 250mg a week for 8 weeks of sust. No PCT (did not exist) and I gained 27# and kept 20#. I do wish I would have doubled it but thats hind site. 1000mg seems to me to be escessive first time out as at best you were making 49mg a week on your own. seems 10 times that would do the trick with cherry receptors......ahhhh the argument of the ages between Ulter and Quadsweep! :p

Quad
 
even though I know 1g would give better gains than 500mg, I just can't get myself to recomend that dose to newbies.
 
the coming up cycle is my 3rd bulking cycle and im tired of fucking around, im going to run 1.5g of test, 400mg eq,400mg deca for 20 weeks.
 
Ulter said:
I do it because it's right. I don't expect anyone on this board to follow the advice. No one on this board is an aspiring body builder. By and large, the guys here are just trying to look better than they do now.
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How are you sure there aren't any?
 
C3bodybuilding said:
There's a few left here and there. But compared to 5 years ago, it's a completely different crowd.
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Well, if I had to do it over again I would do a gram of test and a gram of a nice cocktail of eq and masteron.. :( It goes back to the ole saying.. If I knew then what I know now....

I might have even considered doing PCT.. hahaha, nawwwww who was I kidding, I would have still done my 26 week cycle regardless.. :biggrin: Cuz I was young and stupid.. :lol:

T-Matt
 
my amps have been on order for 1 month and 9 days. I ordered 50, 250mg amps of Test E,12500 mg. Im crying on the inside. I was planning on doing 1000mg of Test for 12 weeks. My package I believe has been seized. So depressed. :(
 
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