bds20002002
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is 17-hydroxy-5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one(1-Testosterone). A steriod??????
Spidey said:
Any AS is going to be more effective injected than absorption transdermally but if all you have is the 1-test base (no ester), transdermal would probably be a good trade off since injections of 1-test suspension could probably be compared to being drop-kicked by god.
I doubt if his concentration was much above 50 mg/mL. 1-Test base is pretty insoluble in oil solutions; I bet it was a suspension. I agree with your assessment though. I have long thought that is the major problem with characteristically painful AS like sus or test prop; it is crystallizing out on the muscle causing inflamation and pain. This may not be as much of a problem with long esters of 1-test since they would be expected to be more soluble and less likely to crystallize out.Seth Roberts said:The reason i asked the question that I did is that when people are making injectables, they often go for too high of a concentration -- often by using too much BA or BB. I think part of the pain problem with injecting 1 test is that these high concentration injectables are crashing out of solution when injected -- when it crashes you get crystals of 1-test preceipitating out --- major irritation. 1-test is itself supposed to be an irritant so i don't think one would be able to get rid of the pain altogether, but by using a lower concentration and trying to keep it from crashing out, the pain might be reducd -- just a theory.
1-test ec? What is that?JavaGuru said:I made 1-test ec into an injectable at 50mg/ml and did a bicep injection in both bi's, they were swollen and sore for almost a week.
Spidey said:1-Test is very close in structure to primobolan (only missing the 1 methyl group of primo). It cannot be reduced to DHT either but it may be fairly androgenic in it's own right. Some have reported androgenic sides like hairloss. .......... He compared its effectiveness to primo. Which makes sense given its similarity of chemical structure..
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