1-Testosterone

[bicepts101]

how do you make them injectable. what other ingrediants?

 

[Spidey]

You can buy powder kits from "research" companies that will do the job. Alternatively, buy some benzyl benzoate, some benzyl alcohol, and some cold-pressed sesame oil and make your own. I use 20% benzyl benzoate, 1% benzyl alcohol in sesame oil. Dissolve the powder in the BB and BA; add the oil and filter the finished oil solution through a 0.2 micron sterile filter into a sterile vial and VWALLA. For 1-test cyp, I will probably try to get a high concentration (400-500 mg/mL) to cut down on the volume that has to be injected.

Both benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate can be purchased from a number of places on the web, including some sites discussed on EF. Do a google search and you shouldn't have a problem locating some.

 

[Seth Roberts]

Reason

The reason i asked the question that I did is that when people are making injectables, they often go for too high of a concentration -- often by using too much BA or BB. I think part of the pain problem with injecting 1 test is that these high concentration injectables are crashing out of solution when injected -- when it crashes you get crystals of 1-test preceipitating out --- major irritation. 1-test is itself supposed to be an irritant so i don't think one would be able to get rid of the pain altogether, but by using a lower concentration and trying to keep it from crashing out, the pain might be reducd -- just a theory.

 

[Spidey]

Re: Reason

The reason i asked the question that I did is that when people are making injectables, they often go for too high of a concentration -- often by using too much BA or BB. I think part of the pain problem with injecting 1 test is that these high concentration injectables are crashing out of solution when injected -- when it crashes you get crystals of 1-test preceipitating out --- major irritation. 1-test is itself supposed to be an irritant so i don't think one would be able to get rid of the pain altogether, but by using a lower concentration and trying to keep it from crashing out, the pain might be reducd -- just a theory.

I doubt if his concentration was much above 50 mg/mL. 1-Test base is pretty insoluble in oil solutions; I bet it was a suspension. I agree with your assessment though. I have long thought that is the major problem with characteristically painful AS like sus or test prop; it is crystallizing out on the muscle causing inflamation and pain. This may not be as much of a problem with long esters of 1-test since they would be expected to be more soluble and less likely to crystallize out.

 

[javaguru]

I made 1-test ec into an injectable at 50mg/ml and did a bicep injection in both bi's, they were swollen and sore for almost a week.

 

[Spidey]

I made 1-test ec into an injectable at 50mg/ml and did a bicep injection in both bi's, they were swollen and sore for almost a week.

1-test ec? What is that?

 

[javaguru]

1-test with an ethylcarbonate ester attached. It's what biotest uses in their Mag-10. It isn't great at improving solubility but I didn't want to source a kilo of 1-test enanthate or cypionate from China for an experiment. I experienced injection pain/fever even when I went as low as 25mg/ml by diluting it with sterile oil.

 

[geoboy]

1-Test is very close in structure to primobolan (only missing the 1 methyl group of primo). It cannot be reduced to DHT either but it may be fairly androgenic in it's own right. Some have reported androgenic sides like hairloss. .......... He compared its effectiveness to primo. Which makes sense given its similarity of chemical structure..

1-test was definately hard on my hair- but Primo is supposed to be pretty easy on hair- has anyone done both that can compare effect on hair?

 

[Synpax]

STupid newb question: does the hair come back after you cycle off? Or is it gone forever?

 

[javaguru]

Gone for good, I'm lucky that I'm not predisposed to MPB considering all the androgenic shit I've consumed over the past ten or so odd years.