Not sure if they are at all similar but I'm guessing PP is well versed in the make up and delivery system of "The Clear."
I think it would be an interesting thread to see how they are the same and different.
Discuss.
Pretty sure the clear was THG
That is.. if we're talking about the Balco/Conte/PA "Clear"
(The clear) was THG aka 17-alpha ethylated gestrinone/tetrahydrogestrinone/ with some modifications to molecular structure. It was absorbed under the tongue not a topical delivery(THE CLEAR WAS ANYWAY)
tetrahydrogestrinone(18a-Homo-pregna-4,9,11-trien-17b-ol-3-one)
This drug was designed by well lets face it a master fucking chemist. Looking at its struture its not really clear to me or anyone for that matter wtf modifications he made and where. Well some of its is clear and you can make some estimations at best. or at least I can anyway.
looking at it its pretty clear we have a mix of two compounds. Well We can see its has something smiler anyway in structure.
Gestrinone (18a-homo-pregna-4,9,11-trien-20-yn-17b-ol-3-one)
Methyltrienolone (17a-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-17b-ol-3-one) (oral tren)
This stuff is like tren but with a hell of a lot more progesteronic activity and no ability to aromatize. No one ever took high doses of it though so no one was ever having high progestron sides from it. Remember this stuff was used for runners and athletes like this rather then body builders and power lifters.
It was and is basically designed perfectly for runners and long distance athletes. It gave same pretty good muscle and endurance gains. The tren like side effects to breathing were taken away. It raised progestron which made runners feel well rested after running all the time. The raised prog helped give add to bones and joints. It also was undetected for years.
It was made for a purpose and it served it very well. And to be honest I feel it has no purpose in the body building/power lifting industry. Which is why no ones going to be selling this stuff anytime soon.
I forget what the compound was in the clear… but it wasnt DHEA or 1-androsterone…
One thing about 1-T is that it clears the system very fast. For PCT purposes its out of the system in about 48hrs and for analytical purposes its probably out of the system within 4 weeks.
-Eric
I am working on a full length reply about this right now.![]()
PA doesn't come around these parts, does he?
It'd be nice to see some familiar faces![]()

He posts on BB.com quite a bit.
I don't like the BB.com forums. Way too many 15 year olds giving advice and quite frankly nobody really knows anything there.
EF is by far the best BB website![]()
He posts on BB.com quite a bit.
I don't like the BB.com forums. Way too many 15 year olds giving advice and quite frankly nobody really knows anything there.
EF is by far the best BB website![]()
PA Has not been here in years. He has posted here before though. I have seen his posts and threads in my searching of the site.Yea. I know him from BB.com.
Does creatine need a PCT?
Is superdrawlz a steroid?
Can I drink alcohol on an oral cycle?
I'm still finding my way around, but it seems to be a nice atmosphere over here.
He hasn't posted there at all in the last few days after our little war of words over testing procedure for supplement
PA Has not been here in years. He has posted here before though. I have seen his posts and threads in my searching of the site.
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