1-AD with test

[BIIIIG]

I'm nearing the end of my first cycle. I take 400mg of test now and I don't seem to gain much anymore. I was wondering if adding 1-AD would be a good idea. I've had good result with it in the past.

I would take d-bol instead, but I've taken d-bol the first month of my cycle and I prefer not to take more of it for now. The d-bol I can get is also significantly more expensive.

Thanks for your help!

 

[savage1026]

Forget the prohormones. Start your PCT and keep the gains you have made.

 

[BIIIIG]

Ok, but the thing is - and I should have mentionned that before.. -, that I still have some test for 1 month, and I have a bottle of 1AD.

My idea is that since the 1AD converts to 1-test, it should be effective even if the test receptors are beginning to shutdown.

Right now I gain at a rate of about 1lb of muscle per week, so I think it's still worth finishing my cycle.

Also, I don't want to do another steroid cycle. I'd say I want to gain another 4-5lbs and that's enough for me. I prefer that it doesn't become a habit, see what I mean..

And since I plan being off for about 3-4 months after, that would be after the summer, so I'd prefer to achieve my objective now. Do you think of a reason why the 1AD would be ineffective during a cycle of test?

I hope it's not a too stupid question!

 

[mtp]

Ok, but the thing is - and I should have mentionned that before.. -, that I still have some test for 1 month, and I have a bottle of 1AD.

My idea is that since the 1AD converts to 1-test, it should be effective even if the test receptors are beginning to shutdown.

Right now I gain at a rate of about 1lb of muscle per week, so I think it's still worth finishing my cycle.

Also, I don't want to do another steroid cycle. I'd say I want to gain another 4-5lbs and that's enough for me. I prefer that it doesn't become a habit, see what I mean..

And since I plan being off for about 3-4 months after, that would be after the summer, so I'd prefer to achieve my objective now. Do you think of a reason why the 1AD would be ineffective during a cycle of test?

I hope it's not a too stupid question!

I've tried 1ad on two seperate occassions. double the dose, zero results. Some people do get results, but i would stay away from the prohormones and take savage's word for it. sell the bottle of 1AD and you could probably make some money off it also, somebody will want it, especially now that it is hard to get.

 

[faller]

I would imagine the 1-test binds to the same receptor in muscle as the test does, so it may be be redudant and not give you any results (I'm guessing). How much 1-AD were you planning on adding? I've taken 1-AD in varying doses, but not the test so can't say anything first hand, but I don't imagine it would give you much of a boost above the test, I don't think it would hurt any though. I wouldn't take it after the cycle though, as it might slow your endogenous recoperation.
Bump for someone who can ID the correct receptors involved lol.

 

[slat1]

I have heard of prohormones downgrading peoples receptors when on AAS. I wouldn't take that chance.
Sell the 1AD to someone... stick to the real stuff.

 

[BIIIIG]

I've tried 1ad on two seperate occassions. double the dose, zero results. Some people do get results, but i would stay away from the prohormones and take savage's word for it. sell the bottle of 1AD and you could probably make some money off it also, somebody will want it, especially now that it is hard to get.

I've had good results from it personaly, although now I have about 15 more lbs of muscle, so I don't know if it would be as effective.

Some people indeed seem to not get good results from it.

Thanks for your feedback..

 

[BIIIIG]

I would imagine the 1-test binds to the same receptor in muscle as the test does, so it may be be redudant and not give you any results (I'm guessing). How much 1-AD were you planning on adding? I've taken 1-AD in varying doses, but not the test so can't say anything first hand, but I don't imagine it would give you much of a boost above the test, I don't think it would hurt any though. I wouldn't take it after the cycle though, as it might slow your endogenous recoperation.
Bump for someone who can ID the correct receptors involved lol.

I was thinking of 400mg/day. I guess its efficiency would depend for the most part on whether the receptors are the same as that of test or not.

If I don't grow much from the test and if it's the same receptor, the 1-AD would probably do squat. If it's another receptor on another hand it might work. Who knows, it might work even well, because you get the effect of the 2 at the same time. Just guessing..

 

[BIIIIG]

I have heard of prohormones downgrading peoples receptors when on AAS. I wouldn't take that chance.
Sell the 1AD to someone... stick to the real stuff.

That's what I would expect from a ph which converts to test. I mean, test is test, whether it comes from a ph or from test directly so they should use the same receptors.

One thing I should add concerning that, and maybe I'm gonna pass for a moron for having done that, is that I took 2 months of 1AD right before I started my steroid cycle. I gained well from the 1AD until gains started to stop, and the steroids I took after worked very well.

So I'm not sure if it uses the same receptors. That'd be great if somebody knew for sure.

I'm beginning to think about what you suggest and get some dbol for my last month instead. But dbol uses the same receptors as test, is more expensive, and also tends to give me some gyno it seems.. GRRR

Anyways, if you don't know, forget it.. I don't want to waste your time with that..

Thanks again.