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1-AD vs Maxteron
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PencilNeck
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1-ad is better. The two lowest prices I have found are at comfortnutrition.com and muscleshoppe.com. Search 1-ad for results posted on this board.
I've never tried the Maxteron, but the 1AD is phenomenol. Everybody I speak to is getting awesome results from it.
Erik
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Erik
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Handsome Pete
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I got 1-AD at www.americasnutrition.com. Cost me $48.99.
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natedogg03
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nice to see u erik
erik introduced me to 1-ad, i noticed an increase in strength after about a week and a half i gained 7 pounds in the 3 weeks i took it.n Protein and cal were also high.
erik introduced me to 1-ad, i noticed an increase in strength after about a week and a half i gained 7 pounds in the 3 weeks i took it.n Protein and cal were also high.
try checking the price at www.fitxtreme.com. Only $44.95
PencilNeck
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$41.60 at http://www.comfortnutrition.com
Handsome Pete
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Sure, you could buy it at those other places, if you want to "save money" and "be financially responsible". Go ahead.
Muscle Scientist
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I have used 1-AD with great results. First fime I used it, still the dione formulation, I added 8 pounds of hard muscle and 20 pounds to my bench in 4 weeks with 3 bottles, 6 caps per day.
This is the first prohormone that actually works well, but it is expensive.
I would compare it to Fina. In fact I am doing six to nine caps per day 1-AD now (and the following two weeks) following a 12 week injected Fina cycle (90mg EOD) to further harden my 22 added pounds of muscle. The 1-AD is giving me even more hardness and vasularity than the Fina was. 1-AD seems to lower Estradiol levels or it competes for the Estogen receptors. This makes it great for losing weight while retaining muscle.
I would was potential users that 1-AD will almost certainly shut down your natural testosteone production. In order to retain yout gains, you really need Clomid post-cycle. Treat this stuff like a legal steroid!
In about 1/3 the users it completely decimates libido. If your libido goes south, Pat Arnold suggests using 4-AD concurrently or taking some androstenedione when you want a quick lift. Both of these seem to work by adding some Estradiol to the system.
This is the first prohormone that actually works well, but it is expensive.I would compare it to Fina. In fact I am doing six to nine caps per day 1-AD now (and the following two weeks) following a 12 week injected Fina cycle (90mg EOD) to further harden my 22 added pounds of muscle. The 1-AD is giving me even more hardness and vasularity than the Fina was. 1-AD seems to lower Estradiol levels or it competes for the Estogen receptors. This makes it great for losing weight while retaining muscle.
I would was potential users that 1-AD will almost certainly shut down your natural testosteone production. In order to retain yout gains, you really need Clomid post-cycle. Treat this stuff like a legal steroid!
In about 1/3 the users it completely decimates libido. If your libido goes south, Pat Arnold suggests using 4-AD concurrently or taking some androstenedione when you want a quick lift. Both of these seem to work by adding some Estradiol to the system.
Handsome Pete
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What do I take Post 1-AD cycle if I can't get my hands on Clomid? Is there anything I can get OTC that is similar? I'm taking 1-AD right now, but now I'm freaking out!
JackOfSpades
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I too have utilized 1-AD with good results. A question to Scientist though. If 1-AD offers the precursors and stimulus to testosterone production, why would it decrease the bodies ability to produce the big T after the cycle? Isn't it just offering some raw materials towards production? It seems that the T-engine would be just fine afterwards. But I'm probably wrong, hell I got married once. I've always wondered about this with these products.
This is not a challenge, just a newbie seeking enlightenment.
This is not a challenge, just a newbie seeking enlightenment.
Muscle Scientist
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The only natural suplement that I know of that stimulates natural testosterone production is tribulus. It seems it be hit or miss with many people though.
JackOfSpades: DHEA and ZMA (presumably) work the way you describe. Prohormones circumvent the normal Testosterone porduction process.
Prohormones are converted by enzymes to testosterone (4-AD and androstenedione) or an isomer of testosterone (norandros and 1-AD). This conversion does not ocurr in the testes. The presence of these converted hormones causes natural testosterone production to slow or stop altogather via a feedback mechanism.
JackOfSpades: DHEA and ZMA (presumably) work the way you describe. Prohormones circumvent the normal Testosterone porduction process.
Prohormones are converted by enzymes to testosterone (4-AD and androstenedione) or an isomer of testosterone (norandros and 1-AD). This conversion does not ocurr in the testes. The presence of these converted hormones causes natural testosterone production to slow or stop altogather via a feedback mechanism.
ironpipes47
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can a teen take it?
JackOfSpades
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Rotty,
1-AD is a product name and is only made by a company called ErgoPharm. It's available from bodybuilding.com at $45 for 60 tabs. You can probably get it at DPSNutrition.com as well.
You can take upto 3 tabs - 3 times daily, with that dose you'll go through a bottle in a week. I took 1 tab-3 times daily, and occasionally on workout days I would add 1 tab to my afternoon dose.
Hope that helps
1-AD is a product name and is only made by a company called ErgoPharm. It's available from bodybuilding.com at $45 for 60 tabs. You can probably get it at DPSNutrition.com as well.
You can take upto 3 tabs - 3 times daily, with that dose you'll go through a bottle in a week. I took 1 tab-3 times daily, and occasionally on workout days I would add 1 tab to my afternoon dose.
Hope that helps
JackOfSpades
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Rotty,
Here's my experience. I have been lifting about 2 1/2 yrs and started with supps bout 1 1/2 ago. I've been trying to cut and get definition, once there I'll go for the mass. I've never juiced.
I came off my first 4 week cycle of Ergopharms NorAndro spray (noticed a little difference). Started on the 1-AD at 1 tab doses - 3 times daily. About a week and a half into it, I noticed a difference in lift strength and less fatigue. Got about a 20-25% increase in reps till failure at the same weight plateau I was currently at. By the end of the 3rd week while having intimacy with my wife, I was soaking my shorts with preJak and lasted about a minute on round one. Keep in mind that I'm 42 years old, been married 18 years, and haven't experienced that since my mid-20's.
My muscles felt different on recovery, swelled, maybe due to the increase in reps, but definitely different. I had a small gain, but then ran out of the 1-AD and now it's been on backorder for the last 3 weeks. Shit
I started a cycle of tribex500 in the 3rd week and don't know if that stack may have anything to do with it. But I'm coming off a 4 week cycle of the trib and the last 3 weeks have been nothing like that 3rd week of the 1-AD cycle. If I can get my hands on it I'm going to get at least 3 bottles so I can run a longer cycle to see if I can sustain the same effect. Better order some more undies too.
Here's my experience. I have been lifting about 2 1/2 yrs and started with supps bout 1 1/2 ago. I've been trying to cut and get definition, once there I'll go for the mass. I've never juiced.
I came off my first 4 week cycle of Ergopharms NorAndro spray (noticed a little difference). Started on the 1-AD at 1 tab doses - 3 times daily. About a week and a half into it, I noticed a difference in lift strength and less fatigue. Got about a 20-25% increase in reps till failure at the same weight plateau I was currently at. By the end of the 3rd week while having intimacy with my wife, I was soaking my shorts with preJak and lasted about a minute on round one. Keep in mind that I'm 42 years old, been married 18 years, and haven't experienced that since my mid-20's.
My muscles felt different on recovery, swelled, maybe due to the increase in reps, but definitely different. I had a small gain, but then ran out of the 1-AD and now it's been on backorder for the last 3 weeks. Shit
I started a cycle of tribex500 in the 3rd week and don't know if that stack may have anything to do with it. But I'm coming off a 4 week cycle of the trib and the last 3 weeks have been nothing like that 3rd week of the 1-AD cycle. If I can get my hands on it I'm going to get at least 3 bottles so I can run a longer cycle to see if I can sustain the same effect. Better order some more undies too.
bignate73
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Hogdude said:
nah, not the dermagain. i have just the 2. i was gonna throw an androdiol in the mix too, but im easing into it to see how i react. im pretty in tune with increases in strength, bf and/or muscularity, so ill watch and see and then if nothing happens add some more to the mix. i usually respond well to andro so im anxious to see this.
ps....im quite hungry....just like equipoise.
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