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Why is steroid use a felony?
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mlong23
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The simple fact that the DEA, FDA and one other agency said that they did not want steroids to be labeled a controlled substance. So Reagan (maybe Bush 1) and Congress said fuck them, and I will do what I want.
Supposedely a lot of teens were able to get steroids very easily in the late 1980's. There intention was to make it to where teenagers were not able to get steroids as easily. Good idea, but then this affected everybody.
Supposedely a lot of teens were able to get steroids very easily in the late 1980's. There intention was to make it to where teenagers were not able to get steroids as easily. Good idea, but then this affected everybody.
PBR
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rnch said:
part of the deal is: they are drugs the Govnmt. is not getting their fair share of profit margins on. The majority of AAS comes in from other countries and is being smuggled into the US without tax...everything is worth more money when its on the black market...AAS imports are out of control- so in order to control it or slow it down, they attach a heavy penalty...
Much like marajuana...if they would legalize it, more would use it - more demand and supply, thus leading to long term mass productivity/supply by manufacturers...this is where i get lost, isnt this a dream scenerio for any manufacturer??...
mlong- Govnmt. doesnt give a fuck about a teenagers health and/or yours. this matter was not on the agenda during Reagan Admin.
bigcountry61
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gov makes no money on drugs or aas...meawhile they give houses and tons of aid to people who dont even pay taxes
mlong23
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PBR said:part of the deal is: they are drugs the Govnmt. is not getting their fair share of profit margins on. The majority of AAS comes in from other countries and is being smuggled into the US without tax...everything is worth more money when its on the black market...AAS imports are out of control- so in order to control it or slow it down, they attach a heavy penalty...
Much like marajuana...if they would legalize it, more would use it - more demand and supply, thus leading to long term mass productivity/supply by manufacturers...this is where i get lost, isnt this a dream scenerio for any manufacturer??...
mlong- Govnmt. doesnt give a fuck about a teenagers health and/or yours. this matter was not on the agenda during Reagan Admin.
The probably don't care about anyone's health, but I do believe that was their stated reason.
LiquidPhire
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bigcountry61 said:
You're kidding me right? The gov makes SOOO Much FUCKEN money off drugs , its fucken insane..........
For instance they invented Methadone for Heroin Addicts, where as Methadone is more addictive then Heroin, and its given to addicts who wish to come off of Heroin.... but guess who distributes it? The government. They want you on THERE drugs, so THEY make $$, this is just a small small example. Much much much more is going on..
Trojan Horse
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I think you want to clarify your statement. Steroid use is not a felony. Having it in your system is not a felony. Steroid possession is.
supershift
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bigcountry61 said:
A-men
Landospike
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Steriods are not against the law. It is only a felony if you prescibe, buy or sell them without a medical reason supported by a licensed physician. Many people take steriods without knowing they are steriods because not all steriods are anabolic. Birth control pills are a technical form of legal steriod.
BigCracker
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Landospike said:
LOL I met this cunt online the other night that was flipping me shit for using AAS. I asked her if she was on the pill. She said yes. So I told her she was a juicer too. She said even if I was right about estrogenics, she had a legit medical use for using bcp. I said like what??? Recreational sex w/o risk of procreation??? How is that any better than using AS to improve one's appearance??? She blocked me after that one. lol
yeah in 1990 the democrat controlled Congress passed the steriod law, the prez was Bush 1.mlong23 said:
BigCracker
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It shouldn't be a surprise that AS are a felony-just take a look at congress-a bunch of fat old fucks that have lives that revolve around alcohol, tobacco and a sedentary lifestyle. Of course they wouldn't want AS to be legalized-it may prove that juicers are actually healthier than they are.
Bigricester
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For instance they invented Methadone for Heroin Addicts, where as Methadone is more addictive then Heroin, and its given to addicts who wish to come off of Heroin.... but guess who distributes it? The government. They want you on THERE drugs, so THEY make $$, this is just a small small example. Much much much more is going on..[/QUOTE]
One of the most popuar analgetics is methadone, which was found in Germany by the time of World War II. Herman Georing, a drug addict, was the "inspirer" of the research for new synthetic opiates. He was afraid that he soon would not be able to find any morphine, because it wasn't prepared in Germany. The German chemists invented methadone, which was not only stronger than morphine, but also had a much longer effect.
One of the most popuar analgetics is methadone, which was found in Germany by the time of World War II. Herman Georing, a drug addict, was the "inspirer" of the research for new synthetic opiates. He was afraid that he soon would not be able to find any morphine, because it wasn't prepared in Germany. The German chemists invented methadone, which was not only stronger than morphine, but also had a much longer effect.
Yup possession is.
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Camel Clutch
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some have it right, some have wrong.....the big U.S. see's you as it's income...when you make $ or distribute $ that they don't make $ on, they label it as a crime against the federal government........You will never make a $ that is untaxed legally.......if they can legalize something they are assured of taxing every penny they will....marijuana in CA is just the start
Landospike said:
That's what is so frustrating. If a woman want birth control, all she has to do is ask for it and barring a medical condition that prevents it, she is given a lifetime prescription (ok, not lifetime, but certainly the foreseeable future).
If one sex of person wants to become the opposite sex, they have enough surgery and hormones to make it happen. Legally.
If I want to feel better and maybe add a little boost to my weight lifting, I have to jump through a bunch of hoops and spend a bunch of money to get HRT or I have to break the law. It's complete bullshit.
Werd. In this state and the neighboring state, liquor stores are state run. So where does all that liquor money profit go? Two guesses and the first one don't count. Another example of ignorance and hypocrisy in action.
SuperChevy
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rnch said:
Because in the Free US of A just about everything is illegal.
I would have to say i agree 100% with the governemnt being upset, that they do not reap there share from steroid commerce. Being in Business i have studied - in depth - the tax laws of the US, and can testify, they will take whatever they can, which is why buisness owners like myself and many others truly follow the saying "its not what you make, its what you keep"
now in light of my uderage use of Steroids, and going through some emotional ups and downs, and sides experienced due to my lack of knowledge and my overuse, i can say that steroids IMHO should be controlled, and distributed to healthy men and women ove the age of 21, educated on the science of their use, and cleared by a medical physician, at there will and personal discretion. being an athlete myslef and training athletes i also belive that substance use in sport should be maintained. meaning maybe enorcing a legal limit or amount of use, especially since we all know sterods will be a factor in professional sports for the rest of mankind.
its hard fought though, honestly have any of you here tried to tell a die hard football player teen in high school with D1 potential that they simply arnt ready for steroids? i mean, i know from experience the youth has alot more access to this stuff then one might think. and the sad fact is, its not guys like you or me who have been there done that, and studied for hours and days and weeks, its these scum bag dudes on the street sellin god knows what to ake a quick buck. if you really want to be pissed i say be pissed at them, yeah the government in the USA is a bunch of money hungry capitolists, and i am one ofem, but the guys selling kids doped up gear made in a 5 gallon bucket are the ones that cause the 1 in a million "death" of an uderage teen athlete (who really died because he was shootin pounds of test a day) the media so desperatly promotes to the public.
Sad Really
-J_Merk
now in light of my uderage use of Steroids, and going through some emotional ups and downs, and sides experienced due to my lack of knowledge and my overuse, i can say that steroids IMHO should be controlled, and distributed to healthy men and women ove the age of 21, educated on the science of their use, and cleared by a medical physician, at there will and personal discretion. being an athlete myslef and training athletes i also belive that substance use in sport should be maintained. meaning maybe enorcing a legal limit or amount of use, especially since we all know sterods will be a factor in professional sports for the rest of mankind.
its hard fought though, honestly have any of you here tried to tell a die hard football player teen in high school with D1 potential that they simply arnt ready for steroids? i mean, i know from experience the youth has alot more access to this stuff then one might think. and the sad fact is, its not guys like you or me who have been there done that, and studied for hours and days and weeks, its these scum bag dudes on the street sellin god knows what to ake a quick buck. if you really want to be pissed i say be pissed at them, yeah the government in the USA is a bunch of money hungry capitolists, and i am one ofem, but the guys selling kids doped up gear made in a 5 gallon bucket are the ones that cause the 1 in a million "death" of an uderage teen athlete (who really died because he was shootin pounds of test a day) the media so desperatly promotes to the public.
Sad Really
-J_Merk
nodiggitydave
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Bigricester said:
One of the most popuar analgetics is methadone, which was found in Germany by the time of World War II. Herman Georing, a drug addict, was the "inspirer" of the research for new synthetic opiates. He was afraid that he soon would not be able to find any morphine, because it wasn't prepared in Germany. The German chemists invented methadone, which was not only stronger than morphine, but also had a much longer effect.[/QUOTE]
Give this guy Karma. He's got it right.
Tatyana
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Bigricester said:
One of the most popuar analgetics is methadone, which was found in Germany by the time of World War II. Herman Georing, a drug addict, was the "inspirer" of the research for new synthetic opiates. He was afraid that he soon would not be able to find any morphine, because it wasn't prepared in Germany. The German chemists invented methadone, which was not only stronger than morphine, but also had a much longer effect.[/QUOTE]
It is also more addictive than heroin, and easier to overdose on.
The methadone program is really a ridiculous example of the 'moral' views of a few people in government making really bad decisions.
Heroin, is highly addictive, however, it does no long term damage.
Using dirty needles or non-medical grade heroin does have a medical risk.
The UK did not have a heroin problem in the 1970s, there were approximately 500 registered addicts, and they were prescribed medical grade heroin.
The moral outcry to hear that 'junkies' were given drugs, both in the UK and in the US, changed policy to the methadone program.
There are now over 500, 000 registered addicts in the UK.
The easiest way to make money for heroin and to ensure a regular supply, if it is illegal, is to sell it.
If all 500 registered addicts started to sell, and they hooked two friends on it and they hooked two friends on it....................
Similar programs are being started again in the UK, prescribing heroin. And it is working, crime and addiction rates are dropping in areas that these programs are piloted.
Tweakle
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Joe Biden.
Big Pharm doesn't really care as the patents are long expired on most A AS and generics would just undercut their profits. Sure, they can sell $2000 An adr ol to sick little kids but the HRT market just isn't profitable enough or they would have lobbied to have the laws changed.
The Witch Hunt is media driven, pandering to the fat-ass cheeto's eating sports fans who get high and mighty over the 'cheaters' in sport and scaring Soccer moms into thinking their kids might be using the drugs that made Benoit a Crazed Killer. Rationality doesnt even enter into it
Big Pharm doesn't really care as the patents are long expired on most A AS and generics would just undercut their profits. Sure, they can sell $2000 An adr ol to sick little kids but the HRT market just isn't profitable enough or they would have lobbied to have the laws changed.
The Witch Hunt is media driven, pandering to the fat-ass cheeto's eating sports fans who get high and mighty over the 'cheaters' in sport and scaring Soccer moms into thinking their kids might be using the drugs that made Benoit a Crazed Killer. Rationality doesnt even enter into it
skacorica
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Tatyana said:
Even those that want a 'quick fix' you could say that about most everything in our "I want it now" society, but most aren't outlawed. Anything that involves the government protecting me from myself is not only irritating but (from an objectivist point of view) immoral.
skacorica
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BigCracker said:
This is something that a lot of people don't even think about. Women are able to supplement their hormones and no one gives it even a second thought.
The truth of the matter is that society has an obsession with "fairness." Testosterone is associated with being "unfair."
skacorica said:
Good point... and think of all the dangerous crap people do with plastic surgery in the name of looking good. Kanye West's mother died due to plastic surgery a few months back. But if we want to take hormones to assist in us accomplishing what we feel makes us look/feel better we are being drug abusers? F*** that.
well its not really 100% about the money. the majority of people in the us are average joes that dont wanna reasearch shit, and then proceed to make hasty decisions out of ignorance, which starts a chain effect and more people start making hasty decisions out of ignorance, until the entire voting population wants steroids illegal just because.
70+ years ago, if an athlete used steroids, then yes, he would be cheating, because none of his competitiors had that same edge. today, if an athlete doesn't use steroids hes cheating himself. but everyone believes cheating is unfair, and anyone in the government they see to condone "cheating' will lose their vote. now i agree, cheating is unfair but taking aas shouldn't be cheating when then vast majority of the competition uses them.
but aside from the cheating point, there is certainly nothing wrong with responsible steroid use in adult males for personal use. the health risks pale in comparison to the health risks associated with drinking/smoking/etc. and i admit that i both drink and smoke, wish i would quit, but thats for another discussion.
bottom line, the people in charge want votes, for the obvious reasons, and pissing off the majority is a bad way to get votes. but you see they play it very smoothly. they pretend to watch out for minorities and the little guy, but in reality these two sets of people are in the majority. Everyone wants free money, and every time they build a house for someone who doesn't pay taxes, that free money they give earns them an exponential vote.
i know im rambling and its time to stop, but everyone should stop wanting free shit, and start wanting to earn what they have. its really not that hard to find a decent job as long as you're a healthy adult. if you truly cant find a job, then i feel for you, but its been my experience that everyone can work, they just gotta get off their ass and do it. no job is beneath your dignity. once this happens this country might be a better place, and perhaps friendlier place for aa use. who knows.
70+ years ago, if an athlete used steroids, then yes, he would be cheating, because none of his competitiors had that same edge. today, if an athlete doesn't use steroids hes cheating himself. but everyone believes cheating is unfair, and anyone in the government they see to condone "cheating' will lose their vote. now i agree, cheating is unfair but taking aas shouldn't be cheating when then vast majority of the competition uses them.
but aside from the cheating point, there is certainly nothing wrong with responsible steroid use in adult males for personal use. the health risks pale in comparison to the health risks associated with drinking/smoking/etc. and i admit that i both drink and smoke, wish i would quit, but thats for another discussion.
bottom line, the people in charge want votes, for the obvious reasons, and pissing off the majority is a bad way to get votes. but you see they play it very smoothly. they pretend to watch out for minorities and the little guy, but in reality these two sets of people are in the majority. Everyone wants free money, and every time they build a house for someone who doesn't pay taxes, that free money they give earns them an exponential vote.
i know im rambling and its time to stop, but everyone should stop wanting free shit, and start wanting to earn what they have. its really not that hard to find a decent job as long as you're a healthy adult. if you truly cant find a job, then i feel for you, but its been my experience that everyone can work, they just gotta get off their ass and do it. no job is beneath your dignity. once this happens this country might be a better place, and perhaps friendlier place for aa use. who knows.
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