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I wouldn't do as the above...Don't train legs for a while, just move it around lightly, don't stretch it for a week or 2 either. Just keep it moving.

The worst side effect to me is that it makes your tendons brittle, damage them and you'll be out for a long time. I don't recommend them to anyone who trains with heavy weights.

I agree!

I'd stay away from winny, it'll give you vascularity but it's too dangerous to do strength training on it. Stick to something that won't dry up joints.

Man, that's messed up you took blame for it from some people. Glad there's justice.

Wow, I'd love 1. Very generous!

Would there be much difference in shutdown between a 3 and 4 week cycle? ( I know both are short!)

Karma fiends!

Var alone is a real feel good cycle, you'll just end up better afterwards. That's how I felt, I didn't become huge but I got slightly faster, stronger and felt more solid. I think it's great for athletes.

65kg is very verrry light at your height, I'm the same height as you and 92kg before I used anything. (And it didn't take long to get that heavy). I am naturally stocky but I'm sure you can atleast get to 75kg natural??? edit: A lot of new guys seem to be being offered winny these days...I have...

Don't bother with winny, you say you train on and off, the amount of muscle mass you'd gain from a cycle would be quick and you'd probably get injured if you don't already have strong tendons.(I say this because you may not have if you haven't been training seriously)

I suggest Var over winny any day, the chance of getting injured and developing bad tendons is so high on winny.

Hey guys I've heard 1-test is chemically very similar to EQ and I was wondering of it's effect on collagen synthesis. As testosterone is known to repair/build tendons etc slower and EQ is known to make them stronger. Any views greatly appreciated, thanks bros.

I've read that 1-testosterone is most similar to equipose, would it have the same effect on tendons?

Not sure what this is but every1s excited, woowoo!