Gained more on one cycle than on another?

[Bradock]

Hey all I have just noticed something odd and would like some info if possible, thanks.

I had ran a dieselbolan 2.0 cycle a ways back on a bulk diet and I gained maybe 5lbs I ate a clean 5000-6000 calories a day at least 2 grams of protein per lb and was not too happy I was full all the time and felt like I was eating whenever I was not talking.. I am on week three of a beastdrol + epistrong cycle and have gained 11lbs and I am eating the same foods but half as much 2500-3000 calories a day haven't been counting grams of protein. Question is why would I gain more on a lean mass cycle than a bulking one My diet is the same just cut in half but to be honest I am not working out as hard or as much as I was on the diesel cycle due to work and college which started a week after I had already started beast and epi and still seeing badass results just wish I had another oppurtunity to run another cycle like this but without school in the way. I forgot to mention I am running forma on this cycle but I am unsure if that is going to affect anything that much?

 

[lartinos]

Could be water bro

 

[Lancer55]

Could be water bro

I thought diesel was the wet gainer, was told and read beast and epi were dry lean gains nothing makes sense anymore lol

 

[LostCauze]

What was your bodyfat % before/during your cycle of diesel vs what your bodyfat % is now?? I'm about to go on a diesel/forma cycle starting next week

 

[Bradock]

What was your bodyfat % before/during your cycle of diesel vs what your bodyfat % is now?? I'm about to go on a diesel/forma cycle starting next week

I didn't measure before but afterwards it was 15% tops as for now I am not sure but I would guess maybe 12%, I couldn't see my lower abs before diesel but now they are starting to show up on this beast epi cycle.

 

[LostCauze]

I'm not real sure on the bodyfat being that big of a factor, but without real solid numbers it can be difficult to tell. From personal experience, the lower bf% (usually I shoot for around 6-9%) I have at the start of a cycle the more overall weight I gain. Which happens because of the bodys ability/need to store nutrients into muscle tissue instead of storing as fat. Also going from a restricted calorie diet to a bulking diet boosts hormones to get quality lean gains throw a cycle in with that and your gunna gain a hell of alot more than what you though if your timing and diets (cut and bulk) are right.

I guess looking at it there could be alot of variables that can affect it, like:
What type of training did you implement while on the diesel cycle vs the type of training you are doing now? Not trying to bash you or anything but could you have been overtraining when you were running your diesel cycle? I don't know how you train or the extent to your knowledge on the matter so please don't allow my asking to affend you.
It could be simple and just be that your adding more weight beacuse your running a strong stack vs a single supp (I know diesel has two compounds). Everyone is effected differently to compounds and you have to find what works best for you.

 

[Bradock]

I'm not real sure on the bodyfat being that big of a factor, but without real solid numbers it can be difficult to tell. From personal experience, the lower bf% (usually I shoot for around 6-9%) I have at the start of a cycle the more overall weight I gain. Which happens because of the bodys ability/need to store nutrients into muscle tissue instead of storing as fat. Also going from a restricted calorie diet to a bulking diet boosts hormones to get quality lean gains throw a cycle in with that and your gunna gain a hell of alot more than what you though if your timing and diets (cut and bulk) are right.

I guess looking at it there could be alot of variables that can affect it, like:
What type of training did you implement while on the diesel cycle vs the type of training you are doing now? Not trying to bash you or anything but could you have been overtraining when you were running your diesel cycle? I don't know how you train or the extent to your knowledge on the matter so please don't allow my asking to affend you.
It could be simple and just be that your adding more weight beacuse your running a strong stack vs a single supp (I know diesel has two compounds). Everyone is effected differently to compounds and you have to find what works best for you.

No prob at all man no offense taken at all just glad somone is tryin to help lol. Was not overtraining I was lifting low reps heavy weights while on diesel and I am lifting a little lighter and adding a few more reps in on this cycle. Your right everyone is affected by different supps just wish id known that beast and epi worked better than diesel for me I ran maybe 4 diesel cycles and all had same results this was my first run with beast and epi together they probably work better on me than the diesel. But too late now no more beast or epi around. Now I got to fnd a legit source in US or move to the UK or somethin lol.

 

[LostCauze]

No prob at all man no offense taken at all just glad somone is tryin to help lol. Was not overtraining I was lifting low reps heavy weights while on diesel and I am lifting a little lighter and adding a few more reps in on this cycle. Your right everyone is affected by different supps just wish id known that beast and epi worked better than diesel for me I ran maybe 4 diesel cycles and all had same results this was my first run with beast and epi together they probably work better on me than the diesel. But too late now no more beast or epi around. Now I got to fnd a legit source in US or move to the UK or somethin lol.

mrsupps.com just got a restock of the beast so if you like it you should probably pull together your funds and buy enough to stash. Unfortunately the epi is gone for good.. really wish I could've ran a cycle of that before it was taken off but I've been having alot of blood work done lately so I've had to put the supps on hold for a while
I'm planning on starting my cycle of diesel/stanzol tom. so i'll let you know how it goes but if it sucks for me like it did for you I have two bottles of beast that I can stack with something.

 

[Bradock]

mrsupps.com just got a restock of the beast so if you like it you should probably pull together your funds and buy enough to stash. Unfortunately the epi is gone for good.. really wish I could've ran a cycle of that before it was taken off but I've been having alot of blood work done lately so I've had to put the supps on hold for a while
I'm planning on starting my cycle of diesel/stanzol tom. so i'll let you know how it goes but if it sucks for me like it did for you I have two bottles of beast that I can stack with something.

Nice, got an order in cart, waiting for hcgenerate to get back in stock if I dont got that I wont run any cycle also got 2 bottles of forged bromo and forma to go as well.

 

[Bradock]

otherwise I just spent 300 bucks for nothing need to spend that extra 150 bucks added to the 300 to complete it, they got two thirds of the stuff I need but not enough for a cycle.