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BEST PCT FOR HELLADROL? Non EF products though
- Thread starter luda281
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lmao, why dont you want EF products?
They work just look at reviews, ppl dont jus make this shit up. Nolva only for PCT is not that good imo recovery is a lot more than just recovering your hpta. Its about sex drive, feeling like youre still on, getting pumps in the gym, WANTING to go to the gym, holding onto strength easier, holding your weight, etc etc
They work just look at reviews, ppl dont jus make this shit up. Nolva only for PCT is not that good imo recovery is a lot more than just recovering your hpta. Its about sex drive, feeling like youre still on, getting pumps in the gym, WANTING to go to the gym, holding onto strength easier, holding your weight, etc etc
yep agree with shibs, im taking hcgenerate right now
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then go on another forum and ask, i dont get it. Look at my avi and tell me if the products work
The Instrumentalist
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what are you looking for then, i don't get it? i like gladiators advice.
do you not think there would be thousands of angry customers if they all ran helladrol, then unleashed/post cycle/forma-stanzol and lost all of their gains, after taking advice from elites on the forum?
no one here is going to give you bad advice.... have you ever TRIED any of the options that have been mentioned? people are still attached to the stigma that you can't have a good PCT without a terrible pharmaceutical drug to help you recover. clomid, nolva, etc. all have their place, no doubt about that. but not for a PH.
for helladrol, it is most definitely not needed, and probably more counter-intuitive then anything.
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I can understand not wanting biased opinions, but in all honesty Elite Fitness is not like any other site. Its not like bb.com where a bunch of teenagers on prohormones act like they are biochemists. Its not like other steroid sites where they say the average amount of testosterone for a first cycle is 750mg. We are a family here and we love to give good advice. I wouldnt put my name out on the line if the product didnt work. I dont get paid to talk about these supplements, I am only giving you the best advice I can give. And with the customer service here, the supplements, and all the good people, you really cant go wrong.
I've been buying n2 products for awhile and it's good shit but the pct did not do it for me. There are countless threads about how biased advice is here. I think if you stand by your product, you should be able to give advice on other products too. You can't sit here is say everyone of ef products are hands down better than everything out there
I'm asking if I wasn't able to afford ef products then what would you take? There are products that have solid reviews on many forums so they must be good. You dont hear a whole lot abouy ef products but on ef. I know you guys are moderators and what not so it's your job to promote ef products
I'm asking if I wasn't able to afford ef products then what would you take? There are products that have solid reviews on many forums so they must be good. You dont hear a whole lot abouy ef products but on ef. I know you guys are moderators and what not so it's your job to promote ef products
The Instrumentalist
New member
im not a moderator.
what products have you tried before that didn't do it for you.
also - what are you referring to as "EF products"
by EF products, do you mean ANYTHING sold by ANY of the sponsors?
not too sure what you mean by that.
what products have you tried before that didn't do it for you.
also - what are you referring to as "EF products"
by EF products, do you mean ANYTHING sold by ANY of the sponsors?
not too sure what you mean by that.
What r ur goals? stats? diet? training?
ive tried beast, diesel, hcgenerate, post cycle, unleashed, and sustained. no lie, beast was good shit, but i had too many sides from it. puffy nipples, libido went to shit
which is why i wanna try helladrol this time.
to tell you the truth, i lost a lot with that pct. ive been clean for about 5 months still trying to recover.
i understand n2 products...etc are good stuff. what im trying to say is, maybe it doesnt work for some ppl. what would you gurus reccomend as the next best option
ALSO, FOR HELLADROL... pct is what? natty test and what other compounds need to be covered?
aren't sustain and unleashed and post cycle are natural boosters?
my main thing during helladrol cycle and pct is keep my libido up for my chic. tell me what is is about unleashed, post cycle, and sustain that makes it best pct? i've heard from ppl that sold sustain that its really not that much better than stuff like pes erase and purus labs recycle
needtogetaas
New member
Maybe you should use forma-stanzol for pct next time and maybe there is a lot more to you losing during pct then just the pct you ran. I am willing to bet had you ran hcg during the cycle at 250ius twice a week and then run clomid 25-50mg ed for pct you would have still lost exactly the same amount of gains you lost after the cycle...
What we should be doing is diving more into the cycle you ran, how you ran it, support sups used, exactly what the pct was how it was run. Then How your taining and diet was both on cycle and during pct. THen we can begin to teach you more about all of it..
Look bro I could care less about the money. Your a broke collage kid ok then fine I will give you all the products you need for your next cycle and your pct too. Except the helladrol that you said you can afford on your own.
How about this.
weeks
1-6 Helladrol 100mg every day spread out.
4-10 need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals.
1-6 n2guard 5 caps a day
6-12 bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
6-18 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps pm, Last 2 weeks drop it to 3 am and 3 pm
I will give you everything you need to run this cycle.Then you make a log and log the cycle and the pct. You contact me each week and send me a pm with a link to the log. You do exactly as I say to going into pct..
Then if that cycle and pct is nor the bomb for you then you can go back to bitching .. How about that?
needtogetaas
New member
you are right its not lolol
Now like I said my offer above stands. Send me a pm and will get the ball rolling.
you are right its not lolol
Now like I said my offer above stands. Send me a pm and will get the ball rolling.
sounds good. you must really stand behind your product and if it works the way you are confident it will, i WILL let ppl know
damn luda, you wont see that ANYWHERE else! That is pretty fuckin amazing!
win win for you. But seriously they will work, but i understand other products work as well too. But maybe those guys just have never heard of this stuff so they cant really say that theres is better, ya know?
win win for you. But seriously they will work, but i understand other products work as well too. But maybe those guys just have never heard of this stuff so they cant really say that theres is better, ya know?
bigpokey
Banned
dam need2 that was cooler that the other side of the pillow.... luda man i think ull be surprised how well this will work with the addition of the forma-stan, i recovered from a test cycle without a serm using it with hcgenerate and post cycle... ive also used purus recycle and it's nothing compared to hcgenerate imo....
awesome. good to hear from someone who has used one of the other products. Yeah, well i'm hoping that this will do wonders for me. I have yet to find a good solid pct
needtogetaas
New member
It causes estrogen rebound and this is why you need a stronger ai+serm like formapstanzol after a cycle of it. Sustain don't cut it.
needtogetaas
New member
NON of them stand behind there products like me or treat the people the way I do. Its that simple
The Instrumentalist
New member
damn... i should start a thread complaining about products. wish i had a free PCT 
lol
lol
damn... i should start a thread complaining about products. wish i had a free PCT
lol
Lol I'm not complaining or saying it sucks. I've been buying stuff from n2 since the old website. I keep trying his products but maybe in the wrong combo and it didn't work well for me. Need2 just has his customers back. Ever aince i tried his orals, I haven't done any other brands
I will let you guys know how it goes this time
needtogetaas
New member
Its about working with my peeps till they find whats going to work best for them.. Keep in mind I have almost every supplement you can think of and plan to come out with more between needtobuildmuscle.com and rlssupplements.com we sell everything from basic proteins and post work out shakes to vitamins, krill oil, and muscle rubs. Any supplement need you have I got it covered and if there is something we do not carry but you wish we would please feel free to send me a pm and I will try and carry the product for you.
hey luda how did it go???
bump too?
Ok guys I know I finished this cycle awhile back. My final impressions are that I recovered good with the pct. Libido was good no side effects from helladrol. Gains werent as strong as beastdrol but still good. Gained about 5-7lbs. I'm only 165lbs though so I don't expect huge weight gains and I'm about 5-7% bodyfat. Noticeable strength gains. I nver had a libido issue with this cycle like other ones. And my balls gained back size after pct and time off.
Helladrol is a good shit if you don't wanna go too crazy. All Lean dry gains for me. I say it's a good starter oral. Beastdrol was definitely stronger but this pct was good shit. I say I'm about 80% back to normal. I was reall hurting before
Helladrol is a good shit if you don't wanna go too crazy. All Lean dry gains for me. I say it's a good starter oral. Beastdrol was definitely stronger but this pct was good shit. I say I'm about 80% back to normal. I was reall hurting before
nice.....
needtogetaas
New member
exactly what I said
Glad N2s pct worked for you. I was off cycle and just recovered in Feb when I tried HCGenerate. I am one of 3 people that he knows of that got shut down from it. I lost libido, energy, and looked puffy. Tried waiting it off, didn't get back to normal quite yet so I've been on aromasin to bring me back. Not sure why I responded in such a way.
Its not that I don't trust N2, it's just hard to trust any OTC with recovery. I don't respond well to multi compounds. Fadogia and trib don't seem to cause problems by themselves though.
Its not that I don't trust N2, it's just hard to trust any OTC with recovery. I don't respond well to multi compounds. Fadogia and trib don't seem to cause problems by themselves though.
I've only done two pro-hormone cycles in my life (I'm still in school and too young and choose not to do any AAS until I am financially stable and can afford blood work, not gonna play around with my health). I used a compound called beastdrol roughly around 1 year ago, everything went well, my strength shot up (despite an ok diet). I used Post Cycle and Unleashed after cycle and felt fine as well as a liver support during cycle (not N2BM related). Then in February I decided to run another cycle of a prohormone (superdrol) and used a different type of PCT to recover (I was stupid and didn't have everything before I started, never again) and now I'm getting a lump underneath my nipple and all signs point to gyno. All I'm saying is I never had this problem when I recovered using Post Cycle AND Unleashed so you can take my word seriously or with a grain of salt. Trust me I'm a college student and Need2 isn't paying me a dime to support their product, I give honest reviews about everything because we're all trying to make each other better.
Again, learn from my mistake and NEVER start a cycle until you have EVERYTHING in hand. If you have any other questions feel free to PM me bro.
Again, learn from my mistake and NEVER start a cycle until you have EVERYTHING in hand. If you have any other questions feel free to PM me bro.
I know this is old but was searching the forums(woke up and couldnt go back to sleep) and saw this. Damn N2 now thats what i call good customer service. What a helluva guy you are N2
freakshow85
New member
PCT is like building a computer or engine. You can skimp out on something, like RAM or the video card. Like putting a high lift cam with high duration in an engine with stock heads. Everything works together, and you can't complain if you don't do it right. It may still work, and it's better than nothing, but you won't get what you should be getting. The more supporting supplements you have, the better things will work together increasing the output in the end.
