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The future of PCT (Post cycle therapy) Is here, How to run the perfect PCT.

So will Phytoserms347 be a replacement for the unleashed / PCT combo for pct, or it will be something we use in conjunction with?

Something to use in conjunction with!
 
Phytoserms 347 contains bulbine, and n2bm will have it within 3 weeks.

2, The idea of perhaps adding unleashed was optional anyway, but it was to give a more favourable test profile with less binding to estrogen or androgen receptors.. So therefore more free test,it doesnt work quite like you say, it depends on the amount of test, the amounts you will see during pct are not going to cause suppression anyway, HTPA will only be inhibited when the amount becomes unatural.. or the pulse is to big.

So will Phytoserms347 be a replacement for the unleashed / PCT combo for pct, or it will be something we use in conjunction with?
 
Week 1-3) 2mg weekly of cjc-1295dac divided into 4 500mcg doses.
Weeks 1-4) 10 mg of sarms S1 Ostarine.
Weeks 1-4) 60 mg daily of Forma stanozolol. A lower dose will allow for some estrogen wich is vital for test recovery, if any sides like gyno start to be noticed this can be ramped up to 150mg ed until the gyno subsides.
Weeks 1-2) 10 caps HCGenerate Weeks 3-4 5 caps daily.
Weeks 1-4) Bulbine natalensis... dose to be revealed

That was the pct outline i gave, and if you wanted to you can use unleashed in conjunction with it.
 
Week 1-3) 2mg weekly of cjc-1295dac divided into 4 500mcg doses.
Weeks 1-4) 10 mg of sarms S1 Ostarine.
Weeks 1-4) 60 mg daily of Forma stanozolol. A lower dose will allow for some estrogen wich is vital for test recovery, if any sides like gyno start to be noticed this can be ramped up to 150mg ed until the gyno subsides.
Weeks 1-2) 10 caps HCGenerate Weeks 3-4 5 caps daily.
Weeks 1-4) Bulbine natalensis... dose to be revealed

That was the pct outline i gave, and if you wanted to you can use unleashed in conjunction with it.

so does this mean you dont need to use hcgenerate last 4 weeks of cycle, only using it during PCT?

Also how many pupms of formastanozol 60mg daily? or 150mg?
 
Written by Russianstar, this info is copyrited.

So what is PCT

PCT or post cycle therapy used to involve a SERM.. for example, nolvadex and or clomid, some Hcg (Human chorionic gonadotropin) and some Anti-estrogens or A.I's (Aromatase inhibitors).
Using these you would first have your SERM, Clomid that works as a selective estrogen receptor modulator that increases production of gonadotropins by inhibiting negative feedback on the hypothalamus, so stimulating your leydig cells to start producing testosterone.

When you run steroids gonadotropin-releasing hormone is negated in the testes as Anabolic steroids mimic the body's natural testosterone, and therefore trigger the hypothalamus to shutdown, In turn the (GnRH) gonadotrophin-releasing hormone is shutdown and thats needed to trigger LH luteinizing hormone release from the pituitary gland, from there LH would normaly travel to the testes to signal production of testosterone, and release.

Hcg though works as leteinizing hormone and prevents the shutdown of testes. Or in PCT stimulates the testes through its route of in effect mimicking LH, to much though and you cause more shutdown, this is because Hcg is being supplied exogenously, or in other words LH is being supplied exogenously, so as your body is no longer producing LH the hypothalamus will be given a signal to stop producing GnRH... NOT GOOD.
There are other sides too if your not using an A.I gyno on Hcg can be a real concern, as can water retention.

Then you have your A.I this helps to get rid of water gained on the cycle, it can stimulate testosterone release through negative feedback, and as your own test levels start to rise it prevents aromatisation and possible gyno or other sides, they can be used on cycle too to prevent the sides associated with aromatisable compounds like Testosterone and dianabol.
Worst thing is that they can cause Hypercholesterolemia, or high blood cholesterol, wich in turn can cause diseases like cardiovascular disease. This is because estrogen is needed for optimal health, so the use of A.I's should be limited, especialy if your not using a 5-ar inhibitor, if you are they allow for some estrogen to still circulate, so high blood cholesterol shouldnt be a concern.
This old style of PCT if youve used it , probably helped you to recover within 3-4 weeks, but its quite likely you lost some of your strength, and some of your muscle that you gained on cycle..And perhaps you put on a little bit of fat too, The reason being is that you need an anabolic to keep progressing or to prevent muscle loss, you need something that acts as a anti cortisol as levels sky rocket when a cycle finishes.
Imagine being able to pile on more muscle. prevent any sides, loose more fat, gain strength and recover with ease during a pct.

This is what you need.
1).6MG of cjc-1295dac. GH releaser
2).1 bottle of Osta-sarms. Anabolic
3).1 bottle of forma-stanzolol A.I and 5-alpha reductase inhibitor.
4). 2 HCGenerate
5).1 Bulbine natalensis Natural A.I and most powerfull test booster on the market.

Week 1-3) 2mg weekly of cjc-1295dac divided into 4 500mcg doses.
Weeks 1-4) 10 mg of sARMS S1 Ostarine.
Weeks 1-4) 60 mg daily of Forma stanozolol. A lower dose will allow for some estrogen wich is vital for test recovery, if any sides like gyno start to be noticed this can be ramped up to 150mg ed until the gyno subsides.
Weeks 1-2) 10 caps hcgenerate Weeks 3-4 5 caps daily.
Weeks 1-4) Bulbine natalensis... dose to be revealed.

Now you could easily add in something like Unleashed to lower SHBG and increase free testosterone during PCT this will speed up recovery and prevent any sides associated with the sharpe rise in test by preventing binding of testosterone to various receptors. Some in the past have used provirion for this too, but thats obsolete now, you have to come off it, and it has its own sides.

After this period is over i would reccomend using forged liver support or On-guard to detoxify the liver and get it up and running to its full potential.

You can add in anything else that you fancy, but to be honest there is no real need, youve got muscle cell proliferation and raised GH levels (one of your most anabolic hormones) from the cjc-1295dac, fat loss and raised energy levels.

You have very powerfull anabolic activity from the new s1 sARM, 5-7lbs of muscle is easily achievable during pct with this combination of products, plus s1 significantly lowers body fat.
The incredibly effective Forma stanozolol is more than capable of reducing any risks caused by prolactin and estrogen, and causes a hardening effect, protects the hairline and prostate, and will help increase test levels through negative feedback, while preventing estrogen from binding to receptors.

The HCGenerate not the same as real Hcg, but very effective, Causes your leydig cells to START PRODUCING testosterone, no not stimulate its release as test boosters like d-aa do, Fadogia causes the leydig cells to start working, and then causes a release of testosterone too.. so when your shut down it actualy works like Hcg, just look at the reviews on how effective this product is.

Its very effective at blocking cortisol wich sky rockets once you come of AAS.
Finaly the new product x, Bulbine Natalensis, The rodent data suggests a testosterone boost of 347% compared to baseline, while lowering estrogen by 35%, how many test boosters do that.... NONE, D-aa as good as it is can cause quite a large raise in estrogen levels, the more test the more estrogen, in fact its involved with the aromatisation of testosterone.
Bulbine is an effective A.I in its own right, but its ability to stimulate TESTOSTERONE RELEASE from the testes puts in a world of its own.
If you want to have a side free, PCT and keep gaining, keep loosing fat, feel good, Then use this PCT as a guide to do just that, The future of PCT is here!!!

Answers to questions on the FUTURE PCT.

Asked by Gamer2beo08
Now would you recommend clomid be added to your future PCT? Or would the HCGenerate honestly be a replacement, with all those other goodies in place

Originally Posted by Gamer2Be08 http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Now would you recommend clomid be added to your future PCT? Or would the HCGenerate honestly be a replacement, with all those other goodies in place?

You could easily add in clomid if you felt it was needed, normaly Serms are used because they were the most effective at increasing the production of gonadotropins by inhibiting negative feedback on the hypothalamus, this is because when you come of cycle your Shutdown, so your loosing muscle instantly, Well by running 2 anabolics one of wich is GH based, and the other a potent sARM, you allow for a longer period in wich to recover your own test production.
Well Hcgenerate will cause the testes to start producing test again, or reproduce however you look at it, And the dose of forma will cause a small amount of negative feedback, therefore raising the amount of test produced.
The other reason clomid and nolva are used is because they bind to the estrogen receptors in our bodies, thereby blocking the effects of estrogen on areas like the mammary gland. So the chance of gyno is reduced, But to be honest if anything they are hindering your recovery, clomid is a synthetic estrogen, and nolva has its own problems.
Well forma is very effective in this department too, its used to treat breast cancer, the kind caused by estrogen, so estrogen dependent tumors.
It also acts on the production of aldosterone, this is the main cause of water retention, and sodium retention, and through that action its believed that formestane may be an effective treatment for kidney problems, as it blocks Aldosterone from being able to store sodium and secrete potassium. So you look drier and lower your bp during pct, something that clomid and nolva can both contribute too.
The other thing is, clomid and nolva though helping to restore test production, put extra stress on the kidneys and liver, and can play games with your emtions, clomid can also damage the occular recptor, They both lower localised igf-1 levels too.

This Future PCT contains everything to negate high blood pressure and estrogen concerns, it allows for the kidneys and liver to recover.
Protects the prostate and hair line.
Restores testosterone production in a far more balanced way, so side effects are reduced.
Reduces cortisol, and water retention.
Increases fat loss even in a low testosterone atmosphere, through the novel action of the potent sARM S1 although s4 could be used to this effect too at a dose of 50mg

Asked by Knowall

I love this pct a lot. I would just use igf-1 in place of the cjc, what do you think?

Answer

Personaly with the amount of muscle cell proliferation, and the amount of carbs you need to eat with Igf-lr3 i dont see much use from it during pct, the idea of the cjc is a raise in GH, wich in turn increases localised igf-1 levels, though not to the same degree as igf-lr3.
Igf is perfect on cycle as you have to eat quite a lot of carbs, at least 70g just after using it, and 70g a few hours later at a minimum, plus its perfect to have the synergy of muscle cell growth from the AAS, and the muscle cell proliferation from the isolated effects of the igf-lr3..
Igf doesnt boost gh levels, GH is far more important during pct, as GH will maintain muscle size, nitric oxide wich causes an elevation in free test, plus it has anabolic effects of its own, and its use for 3 weeks isnt too expensive while delivering some pretty hefty results, Anyone who has done just 3 weeks of cjc-1295 DAC will agree that you see some nice results without putting yourself out of pocket.

Asked by jUstmUscles.

I have tried your protocol and had great results after 2 cycles fast recovery and gained 5lbs after a test tren winny cycle, using the old s4 protocol you told me, im glad you posted this up, when will product x be out?

Answer

Soon bro as soon as it is il post it up!!! Possibly 3 weeks from n2bm, And im glad you enjoyed the last protocol bro, this is even better.

Needto said to post here more so i hope you enjoy, RS

AKA Professor Filimanov.


Why doesn't someone sell this as a PCT stack?
 
i second that thought 428 scj. So many times a company will have great products but have to puy them seperately. I'm sure it might depend on the type of cycle but still, it would be nice to just buy one "bucket" for PCT.

I'd be much more likely to buy if the stack was already put together as a package deal !!!

NTBM - any chance on this happening????
 
i second that thought 428 scj. So many times a company will have great products but have to puy them seperately. I'm sure it might depend on the type of cycle but still, it would be nice to just buy one "bucket" for PCT.

I'd be much more likely to buy if the stack was already put together as a package deal !!!

NTBM - any chance on this happening????

You guys are dreaming... Sarms is meant for research purposes only, aka putting this in a stack at NTBM would suggest that it is for human consumption and NTBM might be liable if someone loses their vision while taking it. Secondly CJC is not legal to use so selling it in a stack would again suggest that customers will be using it. Lastly, these are different company's, so why would you ask a question like this....?
 
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i understand that and totally agree with you. Like nelsons sticky about the best PCT - y not sell that as a PCT combo package??? As far as the other products go: with all the "nappy headed uncle" talk those that are smart enough to read between the lines know where to get it, especially if put in a format like the OP did!!!
 
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