That press was much better. He used a teeny bit of knee drive which helps when it's sitting on your clavicles.
Considering he just pressed his bodyweight or slightly more that's a very solid intermediate level of strength especially if he is an athlete first, lifter second.
His deadlift is amazing. I don't think you quite understand yet how physical structure and not just strength alone dictates how strong a deadlifter you can be. Some people genetically have spinal erectors like tree trunks despite not having the best leverages for the lift and others have perfect levers for the lift which is what I am saying he has.
That doesn't mean the lift isn't impressive. Comparing it to a semi-strict overhead press the numbers are hugely out of wack which further supports what I said about his build.
I'm not discrediting the deadlift nor do I think this kid is weak by any means. I'm just not impressed by one lift wonders. Now if he could squat 500+ and bench +375 to go with it then he would really impress me because he would have a great balance of strength throughout his whole body. Not that his press isn't very good considering his height and body weight.
He doesn't carry much muscle mass from what I can see so it's clear he either A. trains primarily for low rep strength and/or B. doesn't eat enough to support a larger muscle size.
My quote was a little off because his shoulders aren't as narrow as I originally thought watching the video a second time.
You seem to assume what I said was incorrect when it's not. I've been around alot of lifters. I've seen some feats of strength from young guys that would blow away those 2 videos.
In fact, I'll list the 2 that stand out the most to me.
1996. High school weight room. I was 16 at the time. This Tongan kid was 5'10" and around 260lbs of solid. Possibly the most brick like built person I have "ever" seen and dude, there were quite a few Samoans and Tongan's in my neighborhood.
He was coaxed into testing his strength in the gym after school one day. As far as I know he had never seriously lifted before. I'm sure he had benched a few times and maybe done a couple squats, but he was no regular lifter.
I watched him in the span of about 10 minutes bench 405x5 perfect reps. This wasn't to failure. He casually racked it. Then he squatted 500x5 all the way down raw. Again this was nowhere near max effort.
2002. I worked for a nursery with a bulkyard. I became friends with the guy that trained me and we went to the gym 2 times. He was lazy and hardly ever worked out. Maybe 1-2 times a month half assed.
Guy was 5'10" 215 and looked like Casey Viator physically. guy had probably 8-10% bodyfat, really wide shoulders, tiny waist, excellent muscle shape in every muscle. His arms at the time were 18.5" cold. I coax him into actually trying in the gym and he seated db presses without a back rest 85's x13. Then I ask to see what he can squat. He does a very close stance old school bodybuilding style squat. All the way down. I can't even get all the way down with that close of a stance and zero toe flare. He does 225 a couple times like it weights nothing. Then he does 315 like it was literally weightless. I mean almost zero visible effort with this difficult stance. I coax him to try 400, but he doesn't want to do it without a belt which we didn't have.
Then he deadlifts. 465 and again he doesn't want to go higher without a belt. I'm guessing he coulda pulled 500-525 pounds that day.
At a later point in time he told me how he played football in high school when he weighed 165lbs. He squatted 550lbs, deadlifted 625 and benched 365 at 165lbs and 16 years old... ... ...he had the high school records to prove it.
These are 2 genetic super freaks that literally never trained that could do this. This impresses me.
That kid is in great shape, can dunk and deadlift a shit ton so all around he's pretty damn impressive, but compared to what I have seen he's practically nothing. Those are the 2 most impressive recollections I have, but I have a few others like this 180lbs construction guy picking up 4 80lbs bags of gravel at once and walking them from the front of the house to the back. A good 150 feet easy.
Back when I worked as a heavy equipment operator I picked up some pretty impressive shit, but one guy I knew could actually stand against a mid-size excavator bucket and keep it from moving at full power for a few seconds. He was a huge black guy and it was the articulation of the arm and not the entire machine trying to move, but that is one of the craziest things I have ever seen. I watched that guy throw an 80lbs cinderblock or whatever they weigh about 50 feet one time.
To this day I think the strongest people on the planet will never be recognized because they don't have a passion for lifting and so don't become known or develop strength to rival the known dedicated lifters.
Anyhow, there's a nice story for you.
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man good work with squats.
I'll be waking up at 0600 3 days a week for 4 years of college so dont feel alone. Cant wait to hear more man. BTW, lmao at a 7 minute mile breezing through the pt. I guess all you needed was 8 but 7 is still slow
I cant imagine dropping out of college after all the work to get there that would suck. have you started classes and stuff?
