Women and testosterone therapy

[Nemisis RR]

Does anyone know of how or even if doctors are doing testosterone therapy for women. I came across one doctor (lost link) that is giving women 100mg of enathanate test one a month. Also I came accross doctors using a patch delivering 150 or 300 mcg a day. According to the doctor 40% go higher, 40% go lower, and 20% discontinue. Also I came accross doctors using a patch delivering 150 or 300 mcg a day. I am not talking about a cycle. I am talking long term.

 

[Thandie]

I am on oral test in conjunction with an estrogen patch. Don't need progesterone just yet. Will hit 42 this year, not like I asked my body to shut hormone production down, mother nature sorta made that choice for me.

Are these docs perscribing for women who are peri/menopausal? Or just giving them joose because the women asked for it?

I was wondering the same thing. Are Dr's giving women these women drugs because they asked for it?

 

[Perragrande]

Hi, I'm new here and wondering too.

I'm NOT a body builder. I'm in my 50s, postmenopausal, and am hypothyroid. I take Armour Thyroid every day, four grains, which is more than most people do. I have taken it since I was ten years old.

I'm five foot three, small boned, about 160-175 lbs. I am very sensitive to the heat -- live in TX, I do gardening for five minutes, run inside so I don't get overheated and throw up.

Have food allergies: Soy, tomatoes, bell peppers, spicy stuff, hate grease in food unless it's butter. Have HBP and low blood sugar. Also allergic to pollen, cat hair, dog hair, dust and all that stuff.


I can sleep for twelve or fou teen hours a day. I have been this way my whole life. Teachers and relatives told me I was LAZY and SLOW. I felt bad. I sleep deeply and when I wake up it is painful to get up. I have vague aches all over and groan a lot. It takes me a long time to wake up and my circulation is bad. I've been exhausted my whole life. I'm better now that I take enough thyroid, but still not real energetic. I'm retired, not working and don't have to get up early.

I would like to have T so I have enough energy to acocmplish anything. I have NEVER had as much energy as I should. I think the missing link is T, since I already am taking a lot of Armour Thyroid.

Several years ago I had a T pellet implant and I felt WONDERFUL for about six months. T is the ONLY thing I know of that I can take that will give me enough energy to do anything at all, and the docs are not gonna do that. The doc that does the implant is an anti-aging doc. Some of what she prescribes works, some doesn't. You can drop thousands of $$$ real fast at her place. I think a lot of what she does just does not work. She does HGH, bioidentical hormones, chelation IVs, Meyers IVs, yada yada......

She put me on a 500 cal/day diet and B-12 shots. Well, I did not lose weight on calorie restriction. I tried HGH and couldn't tell any diff on that.

I got my primary doc to prescribe T bioidentical cream, 4 mg/ ml, one ml/day, but that was not enough to help me feel better.

Tried DHT cream -- think it helps me lose weight, but does not give me more energy.

I am not taking any estrogen or progesterone therapy -- gyno took me off of it after I had a major bleedng episode with estrogen.

any answers?

 

[Perragrande]

Thanks BikiniMom!! I am in E Tx far from civilization -- about half way between Houston and Dallas.

I really don't know why I have so many muscle aches. Testosterone is the only thing that has made me feel better.

 

[Piernes]

I have recently had severe muscle aches all over that could not be identified to any one place(among many other symptoms) and so started on thyroxine (T4) after lots of research and realised that my thyroid has stopped working. Cause is yet to be ascertained (I have not run and test).
However during my research I was reading how many women have thyroid problems and other associated symptoms not just because of hypothyroidism, but with an underlying problem of excess oestrogen, or poor oestrogenrogesterone ratio. Maybe this is why the T helps???

 

[Jennsfitness]

Finding the right endo is definiely the key.

 

[bk_in_houston]

Yeah, I have really low T. I'm 48 and had blood work done and it's almost non-existent. I'm trying to find an endo here in Houston who will help me. So far, no luck. Any ideas appreciated!

 

[slat1]

With testosterone it is best to start on the low side.
I am a male, obviously, with low test levels. I produce around 30mgs a week. I still make decent gains but it just is not the same.
My doctor talked about putting me on 100mgs a week for replacement. I have not pulled the trigger yet. Its expensive if you insurance does not cover it... about $100 a week.
I guess what I am saying is I have seen some ladies in the past talk about taking more than 30mgs a week for therapy... some real high.
I would start low and let your doctor work you up slowly if they think it is needed. You will minimize any unwanted side effects too.
You should also see your primary care physician. The internet doctors are not the way to go.

 

[musclemom]

With testosterone it is best to start on the low side.
I am a male, obviously, with low test levels. I produce around 30mgs a week. I still make decent gains but it just is not the same.
My doctor talked about putting me on 100mgs a week for replacement. I have not pulled the trigger yet. Its expensive if you insurance does not cover it... about $100 a week.
I guess what I am saying is I have seen some ladies in the past talk about taking more than 30mgs a week for therapy... some real high.
I would start low and let your doctor work you up slowly if they think it is needed. You will minimize any unwanted side effects too.
You should also see your primary care physician. The internet doctors are not the way to go.

Slat, umm, legal test is dirt cheap, seriously, it's a generic drug. NOW the blood tests and doctors visits, those can add up if you don't have insurance, some of those blood tests cost $3,000 for the full panel and you really need to stay on top of that shit, but my hubby has been on HRT for 3 years now, the bottle itself is around $10

Yeah, 30 mg a week WAYYYYYY too high.

 

[musclemom]

Hi, I'm new here and wondering too.

I'm NOT a body builder. I'm in my 50s, postmenopausal, and am hypothyroid. I take Armour Thyroid every day, four grains, which is more than most people do. I have taken it since I was ten years old.

I'm five foot three, small boned, about 160-175 lbs. I am very sensitive to the heat -- live in TX, I do gardening for five minutes, run inside so I don't get overheated and throw up.

Have food allergies: Soy, tomatoes, bell peppers, spicy stuff, hate grease in food unless it's butter. Have HBP and low blood sugar. Also allergic to pollen, cat hair, dog hair, dust and all that stuff.

I can sleep for twelve or fou teen hours a day. I have been this way my whole life. Teachers and relatives told me I was LAZY and SLOW. I felt bad. I sleep deeply and when I wake up it is painful to get up. I have vague aches all over and groan a lot. It takes me a long time to wake up and my circulation is bad. I've been exhausted my whole life. I'm better now that I take enough thyroid, but still not real energetic. I'm retired, not working and don't have to get up early.

I would like to have T so I have enough energy to acocmplish anything. I have NEVER had as much energy as I should. I think the missing link is T, since I already am taking a lot of Armour Thyroid.

Several years ago I had a T pellet implant and I felt WONDERFUL for about six months. T is the ONLY thing I know of that I can take that will give me enough energy to do anything at all, and the docs are not gonna do that. The doc that does the implant is an anti-aging doc. Some of what she prescribes works, some doesn't. You can drop thousands of $$$ real fast at her place. I think a lot of what she does just does not work. She does HGH, bioidentical hormones, chelation IVs, Meyers IVs, yada yada......

She put me on a 500 cal/day diet and B-12 shots. Well, I did not lose weight on calorie restriction. I tried HGH and couldn't tell any diff on that.

I got my primary doc to prescribe T bioidentical cream, 4 mg/ ml, one ml/day, but that was not enough to help me feel better.

Tried DHT cream -- think it helps me lose weight, but does not give me more energy.

I am not taking any estrogen or progesterone therapy -- gyno took me off of it after I had a major bleedng episode with estrogen.

any answers?

1. Okay, you need to try a different thyroid supplement. My husband was on generic armour identical and felt nothing. Lucky for us they discontinued that so the doc switched him to levothryoid and BANG, night and day. Get yourself a book entitled "Thyroid Power" by Shames, M.D. Yes, you can develop a tolerance to a medication you've been on your entire life.

2. You discontinued seeing the anti-aging doc because of $$$ I assume?

3. I have some ideas but I'd really need you to talk to me in much more detail than you may feel comfortable posting up in a public forum, it's up to you, here or PM me if you're interested. Frankly I think you have adrenal exhaustion, in addition to everything else (common with thyroid dysfunction, actually) a lot of doctors don't treat it, or even recognize it, but it's a lot easier to treat than you'd think. We'd need to tweak up your diet, add a few (not terribly expensive supplements) and I bet we'd perk you right up.