1st cycle ever-starter DBol--HELP!!!!

[reddeadrevolver]

hey guys...I'm 21 years oldn I been working out for almost 2 years now..I'm considering the usage of Steriods..thinkin of starting with Dbol alone cycle..My stats:
Age:21
Height:6 Feet
Weight: 80Kgs
BF:10%

Can u guys plzz help me with wat dosage to start with? do i need any post cycles like Nolvadex after the cycle?wat kind? how much calories shoud I be taking in durin the cycle and after??I hav read ppl sayin that u jus gonna lose all wat u hav gained durin the cycle, how can i keep dat to minimum?What other facts that i need to be aware of?
I realliee have made up my mind on dis n please reply if you can help, decisions are mine to make...

Thanks

 

[ready46509]

why not throw in some test with the dbol and that would be a good first cycle. you will definetely like your results alot more than dbol only. 30mg ed would be a good dbol dosage. do you have a ai on hand? the reason people say you will lose pretty much everything on a dbol only cycle is because alot of the gains are water weight.

 

[reddeadrevolver]

why not throw in some test with the dbol and that would be a good first cycle. you will definetely like your results alot more than dbol only. 30mg ed would be a good dbol dosage. do you have a ai on hand? the reason people say you will lose pretty much everything on a dbol only cycle is because alot of the gains are water weight.

wats an 'ai"...n I find it bit scary to use Test at dis age...coz of its sides
or can the PCTs reallie help with sides??

 

[ready46509]

well most of the sides are going to happen on cycle. so pct doesn't really have anything to do with sides you will get on cycle. a ai is anti estrogen such as aromasin or armidex. it helps keep gyno from coming up. its crucial to at least have one of these on hand in case gyno does start to occur. if your worried about side effects i won't try to talk you into taking test but i will tell you my first cycle i took test e at 500mg a week and dbol 30mg a day for five weeks and had gained thirty pound before pct. i ended up keeping fifteen pounds of muscle from the cycle but my pct was also cut short due to a injury so if your pct is good you could gain twenty to thirty pounds just depening on how your diet and pct

 

[ArmaniAK47]

You need to learn to fucking spell and learn to workout..

Do a little research dude, seriously..

stupid people die.. especially when using powerful drugs..

I'm probably going to get an infraction for giving you tough love but you need to learn some shit.

learn to workout and correctly diet, then read for about 150 solid hours on steroids and PCT.. then talk cycling with us.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

and stop talking like you're a 14 y/o girl.

 

[dabuffguy]

wats an 'ai"...n I find it bit scary to use Test at dis age...coz of its sides
or can the PCTs reallie help with sides??

You think testosterone will have less sides than Dbol?

You obviously don't know what you are getting into at this point bro. Read up on the profiles, research these things and ask questions before asking how to dose for your cycle. You are not ready.

An "AI" is an Aromatase Inhibitor so you don't grow breasts or swell up like the michelin man. Yes you can grow breasts by using dbol.

PCT isn't a "side effect preventor" it's to restore natural testosterone production. Although suppressed natural levels is a side effect, PCT is done after the cycle where you experienced all of the side effects while on the drugs.



Also, at 80 kg and your height, the last thing you need right now is steroids. You should EASILY hit 95kgs at your height by dieting right and having a proper work out routine.




Oh, and armaniAK47 is right. Type and spell like an adult. We don need dis wittl txt typ talk bullshit. We don't want to have to try and decipher a message. We just want to read a message.

 

[dabuffguy]

hey guys...I'm 21 years oldn I been working out for almost 2 years now..I'm considering the usage of Steriods..thinkin of starting with Dbol alone cycle..My stats:
Age:21
Height:6 Feet
Weight: 80Kgs
BF:10%

Can u guys plzz help me with wat dosage to start with? do i need any post cycles like Nolvadex after the cycle?wat kind? how much calories shoud I be taking in durin the cycle and after??I hav read ppl sayin that u jus gonna lose all wat u hav gained durin the cycle, how can i keep dat to minimum?What other facts that i need to be aware of?
I realliee have made up my mind on dis n please reply if you can help, decisions are mine to make...

Thanks

More importantly, what does your diet look like now? If you are 175 pounds at 6 ft after 2 years of lifting, that means your diet sucks. Steroids won't fix anything.

The equation for gaining mass is this:

Lifting heavy-ass weights (squats and deadlifts + Heavy rows and bench) + eating like a monster (and no drinking)+ plenty of rest = strong, muscular beast


Steroids doesn't fall into that equation and is not a replacement for one of those if one of those is lacking in the equation. Steroids goes into that equation after you have all 3 of those in line and have been growing on it for quite some time. You will NEVER get big if you don't lift right, eat right and sleep relatively well even if you took all the steroids in the world.



You want to know how many calories? Everyday for the next year you should eat 4000 calories, 1600 of it coming from protein. You will come back here 1 year later and weigh well over 200 pounds. Then you should think about using steroids. Until then, learn about them.

 

[reddeadrevolver]

Thanks for the comments gentlemen, my appologies for the spelling mistakes, wasn't that good in Dictation quizes in midde school.

Give me a break, you guys are after me like a nanny after an infant that swalloed a dice or something. I am aware of what you are talking about, and about my diet and training, I wasn't born with 175 lbs, I have gained 25 lbs in those 2 years of training and I do throw in 2500-3000 of clean calories into my stomach, no offense. I really appreciate the advise sir, but most of the big guys telling kids this stuff have started steriods when they were below 20 themselves.
I am on a research at the moment thats why I'm here looking for some answers from you matured guys. I just wanna give it a shot, that can start me off.

Thanks

 

[cuts82]

Pretty sure this is the 17 year old kid that posted up earlier today and got told to wait till he is 21.
the stats he gives are the same and he wanted to do a dbol cycle, plus he has the same fucked spelling lol

 

[dabuffguy]

Thanks for the comments gentlemen, my appologies for the spelling mistakes, wasn't that good in Dictation quizes in midde school.

Give me a break, you guys are after me like a nanny after an infant that swalloed a dice or something. I am aware of what you are talking about, and about my diet and training, I wasn't born with 175 lbs, I have gained 25 lbs in those 2 years of training and I do throw in 2500-3000 of clean calories into my stomach, no offense. I really appreciate the advise sir, but most of the big guys telling kids this stuff have started steriods when they were below 20 themselves.
I am on a research at the moment thats why I'm here looking for some answers from you matured guys. I just wanna give it a shot, that can start me off.

Thanks

I'll repeat myself. 4000 calories a day. Do that for a year, and in the mean time study up on using steroids.

No one here is gong to advocate anyone to use this stuff if they clearly are not ready to do so.

The big guys tell the young guys this stuff because they realize their mistake.

A 175 6'2 dude doesn;t need steroids. Period. He needs food.

4000 caloies a day. Get on it starting today.

 

[reddeadrevolver]

your "preety sure" is a wrong guess, Im not the same guy...n wats with the spellings, I din't come here learn english, this is computer age, learn how to use short-forms, or u could have spelled "lol", in full in ur last quote.

Pretty sure this is the 17 year old kid that posted up earlier today and got told to wait till he is 21.
the stats he gives are the same and he wanted to do a dbol cycle, plus he has the same fucked spelling lol

 

[reddeadrevolver]

I'll repeat myself. 4000 calories a day. Do that for a year, and in the mean time study up on using steroids.

No one here is gong to advocate anyone to use this stuff if they clearly are not ready to do so.

The big guys tell the young guys this stuff because they realize their mistake.

A 175 6'2 dude doesn;t need steroids. Period. He needs food.

4000 caloies a day. Get on it starting today.

Alright bro, whatever you say is right, I will give myself some more time before get going, you not gonna help me on it yet, anyways.
well, thanks for your advise!!

 

[dabuffguy]

your "preety sure" is a wrong guess, Im not the same guy...n wats with the spellings, I din't come here learn english, this is computer age, learn how to use short-forms, or u could have spelled "lol", in full in ur last quote.

"Computer age"?? pfffft

Dude, we are adults here. Not children. We type like human beings and we spell things out like anyone mature should do with the exception of "lol", "lmao" etc that take on a full meaning. not spelling out common words is annoying as shit. This is a forum for sharing knowledge about anabolic steroids, not down-grading the english language by pruposefully mis-spelling words. "Short forms" is another way of saying "I don't type things out because I'm a little kid that doesn't know when to type like an adult."

If you brought a paper to a teacher or boss with "short forms", you would get an "F" or get fired. You will get zero respect from anybody typing like that.

 

[dabuffguy]

Give me a break, you guys are after me like a nanny after an infant that swalloed a dice or something.

Probably because steroids aren't something to fuck with if you don't know what you are doing. We are doing you a favor by advising you not to at this point. Whether you want to listen is up to you. This same "I don't want to hear it" attitude is part of the reason kids shouldn't use this stuff in the first place. Naievity, immaturity, irresponsibility and not to mention how stupid it is to do at such a young age for health reasons.

I'm not that old myself, but I can spot a bad situation in this context from a mile away.


I'm not even gong to go into how 175 lbs at 6' ft is the prime example of a lacking diet, and not because you don't use steroids.

 

[dabuffguy]

Oh, and I am running and IP check across the two posters asking the same exact questions with the same stats who claim to not be the same person.

 

[cuts82]

your "preety sure" is a wrong guess, Im not the same guy...n wats with the spellings, I din't come here learn english, this is computer age, learn how to use short-forms, or u could have spelled "lol", in full in ur last quote.

haha . your coming across as a total douche bro