Strength gains with EQ?

[dabuffguy]

Can I pick your brain for a moment?

Let's say I were to take up your advice, which test would you recommend and why, keeping in mind that I want to minimize gaining size and/or any sides.

Take 1 CC of testosterone cypionate or enanthate weekly.


But, I have a question for you.

Why are you using steroids if you don't want to gain size? What are you trying to achieve and for what purpose?

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

Take 1 CC of testosterone cypionate or enanthate weekly.


But, I have a question for you.

Why are you using steroids if you don't want to gain size? What are you trying to achieve and for what purpose?

My goals are trying to get in decent shape and get more defined. I wanted a slight strength increase as well. I don't want to gain too much weight because I'll have to bring it back down later on if I decide to compete again. I was on a hiatus from competing so I didn't feel bad about trying a little bit of something. I've never competed while on the sauce. Actually this year was my first year cycling. Researched a lot and talked alot about it. Had a source close to me and everything was easy to get to, so I decided to give it a try.

I'm already a naturally thick guy, so size is easy for me to get. I wanted to try them out so I could get more defined in all honesty.

Also, I wanted to speed up recovery. I train almost everyday between kickboxing, jiu-jitsu and weight lifting. I needed a little boost because I was pretty shot all the time before.

I was under the impression that "getting massive" wasn't the only reason to try juice.

I guess thats the main reason I'm sticking to milder compounds....EQ, anavar and clen or ECA stacks.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

Update

Starting to feel that extra push these days. Week 5 and putting up more weight on the bench.

Feeling nice and light....cardio is good in kickboxing and everything.

liking it a lot.

 

[Glove18]

sorry, dont mean to steal your thread here, but i would like to run a similar cycle, I think we can relate, plz continue to share your experiences. I wuld like to run a cycle one that would seem like this-

Weeks-16
EQ- 600mg/week (2 shots/week=600mg) weeks1-16
Win- 25mg/ED weeks 1-8
Anav- 40mg/ED weeks 8-16

Along w/ .5g of Armidex/ED weeks1-16 or 25-50mg of Prov/ED weeks1-16

PCT- HCG/Clomid

my goals are great strenght gain/ medium gains like 10lbs.

what do you think? I think your cycle looks good so far IMO i would feel comfortable running yours, how are your side effects and gains comming along so far?

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

sorry, dont mean to steal your thread here, but i would like to run a similar cycle, I think we can relate, plz continue to share your experiences. I wuld like to run a cycle one that would seem like this-

Weeks-16
EQ- 600mg/week (2 shots/week=600mg) weeks1-16
Win- 25mg/ED weeks 1-8
Anav- 40mg/ED weeks 8-16

Along w/ .5g of Armidex/ED weeks1-16 or 25-50mg of Prov/ED weeks1-16

PCT- HCG/Clomid

my goals are great strenght gain/ medium gains like 10lbs.

what do you think? I think your cycle looks good so far IMO i would feel comfortable running yours, how are your side effects and gains comming along so far?

I'm running Nolvadex with it from advice I was told and it has helped a ton with bloating that I was getting without it....I frontloaded my cycle with 50 mg of winny ED, but I was noticing a lot of tension in my hips and I need to be flexible for what I was doing...plus I was worried about going heavier on the bench,etc because I didn't want to get injured.

Since switching to the var, my lifts are better and my cardio has really improved.

Steady gains throughout the entire cycle...Every week I'm more defined and I'm putting on size pretty easily, even though I'm really trying to keep it to a minimum.

My cycle is designed to gain strength, definition and improve cardio for training.

Sides -

so far, I haven't experienced any which is consistent with the research I did about the compounds I chose. EQ and Anavar are two of the milder compounds out there and don't hurt your joints, which is a big thing for me. Seems like the EQ is actually helping my joints, which is also consistent with the research I've done.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

Also, if you feel comfortable try to up the Var dosage to between 60 mg - 80 mg, IMO. I started out at 40 mg ED for a week and felt good, but I noticed a nice jump in energy and excitement once I moved up to 70 - 80 mg...My Anavar is liquid oral so the measurements aren't exact like they would be in pill form.

Either way, I felt a surge of energy and waves of high spirits with the higher dose, but I wouldn't go above 80 mg.

oh and don't forget to take your liver pills and multi vitamins as you should any time you are taking oral AAS.

 

[Glove18]

Just wat i wanna hear man! i saw that you replied to my first thread. You gave me the advice about the winny on joints- which is very bad being that I am a football player. With my recent experience on winstrol i didnt really encounter this much but maybe it was due to my low dosages. But I'll probly keep at 25mgED for the first 8weeks then if i decide to follow through with the upper cycle. BTW did you know Anavar is prescribed to patients with alcoholic hepatites? That is because their liver needs alot of support, however this doesnt seem to really make any sense to any1, being that anavar is a 17aa! But believe it or not this is the truth, and i personally know this bcuz my uncle is a heavy drinker for years and unfortunately came down with alcoholics hepatitis, a specialist actually prescribes anavar to him for that reason. They say dosed at 80mg ED atually reverses the effect(or sometging of that nature) and atually improves the liver from further damage! strange but true,u can even find the same info on google. So now you know where i get my anavar now but of course i still would involve some liver support supps. I've heard that alot of liquid steroids tend to give off a "high, energy" filling. Honestly i thing the reason for this is bcuz most liquids are fakes and actually instead might contain the same ingrediants we see in energy drinks.. But hey thats just IMO, whatever helps u sleep at night haha.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

Just wat i wanna hear man! i saw that you replied to my first thread. You gave me the advice about the winny on joints- which is very bad being that I am a football player. With my recent experience on winstrol i didnt really encounter this much but maybe it was due to my low dosages. But I'll probly keep at 25mgED for the first 8weeks then if i decide to follow through with the upper cycle. BTW did you know Anavar is prescribed to patients with alcoholic hepatites? That is because their liver needs alot of support, however this doesnt seem to really make any sense to any1, being that anavar is a 17aa! But believe it or not this is the truth, and i personally know this bcuz my uncle is a heavy drinker for years and unfortunately came down with alcoholics hepatitis, a specialist actually prescribes anavar to him for that reason. They say dosed at 80mg ED atually reverses the effect(or sometging of that nature) and atually improves the liver from further damage! strange but true,u can even find the same info on google. So now you know where i get my anavar now but of course i still would involve some liver support supps. I've heard that alot of liquid steroids tend to give off a "high, energy" filling. Honestly i thing the reason for this is bcuz most liquids are fakes and actually instead might contain the same ingrediants we see in energy drinks.. But hey thats just IMO, whatever helps u sleep at night haha.

Yeah, then you'd absolutely want to stay away from winny if you play football...we have the same worries about joints and tendons. Got to be careful when you are doing sports that are abusive on the body.

Most guys that are loading up with the 100 mg of winny are usually running other compounds like Deca, which help lubricate the joints. That's why they can go heavy and not worry about it.

Without it, your joints are WEAK and can easily snap.

I bet you will really like the EQ/Anavar combo. It's a great cycle for athletes....the only problem is that EQ is in your system for a long time so if you are going to get tested, be weary of that.

I'm not fighting competitively at the moment so I have no worries or guilt about trying AAS...

 

[Glove18]

Yes Eq is detected long after, well thats what i hear but dont really know the actual time frame. But Its not actually Eq that they find after so many months, its the little remains that sit in your fat tissue, so most builders b4 competition tend to do cutting cycles, and while dropping all that fat also means dropping the remains out of your system which can come up as a positive test. But football season isnt until Sept., and they usually dont test until playoff time which is about mid Nov-Dec., so i figure if i do this cycle after new years and end around April, and really try to clean my system out, hopefullyi should be good But I also might gray shirt this year bcuz of job demands.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

that's cool man. Definitely make sure you clean out beforehand

Once you start, feel free to post your updates on this thread bro.