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New recession-friendly "I'm a PC" ad delivers uppercut to Apple

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PC to Mac: I’m Cheaper

By Nick Wingfield

For months, Microsoft has jabbed at Apple with an, at times, baffling advertising campaign for Windows PCs. Now Microsoft may finally land a solid blow against its rival.



In a new chapter to its ad campaign that will begin airing during the NCAA basketball playoffs on CBS Thursday evening, Microsoft will begin hammering on a theme that could resonate in these times of economic hardship: how much less expensive Windows PCs are than Macs. For the commercials, Microsoft’s advertising agency, Crispin Porter + Boguksy, recruited prospective computer shoppers in the Los Angeles area through Craigslist and other sites, with a tantalizing offer to give them between $700 and $2,000 to purchase a new PC.

According to Brad Brooks, corporate vice president for Windows consumer product marketing at Microsoft, the agency told recruits it was a market research firm and didn’t mention it was working with Microsoft. The recruits were told they could keep whatever money they didn’t spend on a PC so they had incentives to look for good values.

The first commercial shows a woman named Lauren, who had a $1,000 budget and says she wants to buy a laptop with at least a 17-inch screen and a comfortable keyboard. With a camera crew following her, she visits an Apple retail store, leaving disappointed because the least expensive laptop is $1,000 and has only a 13-inch screen (that would be the $999 MacBook .

“I’m just not cool enough to be a Mac person,” Lauren says sarcastically while driving her car.

Lauren ends up at a Best Buy, ogling a bounty of Windows PCs, where she’s able to purchase a H-P Pavilion notebook with a 17-inch screen for $699.99, before sales tax. Brooks says that, off camera, Lauren spent about $900 total after also buying a printer. “I’m a PC, and I got just what I wanted,” Lauren says at the end of the ad.

The message of this advertising campaign is much more easily comprehensible than Microsoft’s recent Windows commercials. An early batch of ads featured Microsoft chairman Bill Gates and comedian Jerry Seinfeld in strange situations that had nothing to do with Windows PCs. Later ones featured a mixture of celebrities, Microsoft employees and ordinary people proudly declaring “I’m a PC,” an effort to counter a multiyear effort by Apple in its ads to portray Windows PCs as stodgy, technically inferior products.

Increasingly as the economy has headed south, Microsoft executives, including CEO Steve Ballmer, have started questioning whether Apple will be able to sustain its gains in the PC business with its traditionally higher-priced Mac products. Apple’s cheapest laptop, per Lauren’s experience, is $999. Users can easily find Windows “netbooks” — inexpensive laptops — for $300.

Microsoft’s recruiting process for its commercials is interesting in this regard. Brooks says of the roughly dozen computer shoppers its agency recruited, not a single one ended up spending their money on a Mac. Brooks says he “swears on a stack of Bibles” that the agency didn’t in any way steer the shoppers towards a particular brand of computer or operating system. “Value is on the top of everybody’s mind these days with the economic situation we’re in,” he says.

PC to Mac: I’m Cheaper - Digits - WSJ

Price is important, especially these days. Because if something like the PS3 is still considered way too expensive at $400, sure can't expect people to be out buying low-end laptops at $1000+. Haven't you learned yet Apple? lol.
 
Price is important, especially these days. Because if something like the PS3 is still considered way too expensive at $400, sure can't expect people to be out buying low-end laptops at $1000+. Haven't you learned yet Apple? lol.


Dude, one is a game with a primary demograph among kids; one is a necessary component to modern-day living. Not comparable.



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You're making one big mistake.

Apple Fanboys, the people who buy macs and shit -- don't give a shit about the price. That's like saying prices for the playoff football games have to come down. When people want something, they want it.

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Both are considered overpriced consumer electronics. Mac brand laptops are not exactly a necessary component to modern-day living either.

Also, you'd be surprised at the demographics of console these days-

http://www.smrb.com/uploads/XboxPlayStationDownload_06.23.08.pdf


You have also shown your personal bias towards video games. It remains a fact that games are just that -- games. They serve no practical function outside of immediate entertainment, regardless of whether it's Koopa Troopas targetted at 10-year-olds or naked car chases and bloody shootouts targetted at 18-year-olds.

The Nintendo Power Glove was expensive when it came out, too. Cool toys simply cannot be compared to products that have become necessary for existence in the modern world: in this case, laptop computers.



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You have also shown your personal bias towards video games. It remains a fact that games are just that -- games. They serve no practical function outside of immediate entertainment, regardless of whether it's Koopa Troopas targetted at 10-year-olds or naked car chases and bloody shootouts targetted at 18-year-olds.

The Nintendo Power Glove was expensive when it came out, too. Cool toys simply cannot be compared to products that have become necessary for existence in the modern world: in this case, laptop computers.



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The power glove was anything BUT cool!
 
You have also shown your personal bias towards video games. It remains a fact that games are just that -- games. They serve no practical function outside of immediate entertainment, regardless of whether it's Koopa Troopas targetted at 10-year-olds or naked car chases and bloody shootouts targetted at 18-year-olds.

The Nintendo Power Glove was expensive when it came out, too. Cool toys simply cannot be compared to products that have become necessary for existence in the modern world: in this case, laptop computers.



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You conveniently ignored my part about "Mac brand laptops" not being exactly necessary.

Anyways it's funny, when I fried my chip in my old pc, I used my PS3 to go on line and buy a replacement part, print the receipt, watch youtube videos, email people, listen to music, make a digital photo album, run Stanford's disease research project aka Folding @ Home, and surf on EF while waiting for the new part.

Oh and I played a game now and then too. :)
 
I know what you mean. When I have to do work and NEED the machine to work, I use my Mac. When I'm just playing games, I use my PC / x360 / PS3 / Wii.

However, between the four, my PC has been the most expensive with the periodic machine upgrades (yes, to play games).
 
You conveniently ignored my part about "Mac brand laptops" not being exactly necessary.

X brand of a product is not exactly necessary. Y brand of a product is not exactly necessary. Every brand of a product is not exactly necessary. The product is not exactly necessary. No product is exactly necessary. Argumentum ad absurdum.


Anyways it's funny, when I fried my chip in my old pc, I used my PS3 to go on line and buy a replacement part, print the receipt, watch youtube videos, email people, listen to music, make a digital photo album, run Stanford's disease research project aka Folding @ Home, and surf on EF while waiting for the new part.

Oh and I played a game now and then too. :)


You listed music, games, youtube, surfing boards, photo albums -- sounds like entertainment to me.

Moreover, you must get funny looks when you use your PS3 at work.



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You conveniently ignored my part about "Mac brand laptops" not being exactly necessary.

Anyways it's funny, when I fried my chip in my old pc, I used my PS3 to go on line and buy a replacement part, print the receipt, watch youtube videos, email people, listen to music, make a digital photo album, run Stanford's disease research project aka Folding @ Home, and surf on EF while waiting for the new part.

Oh and I played a game now and then too. :)

you can stream stuff from your lappy using Vuze too
 
It's a smart ad campaign basically doing exactly what Apple did. However, the only thing they really have going is price. All Apple would have to do is put out another commercial with someone paying more for a machine because a virus crashed their old one or they need to actually do serious publishing and design work.
 
All Apple would have to do is put out another commercial with someone paying more for a machine because a virus crashed their old one

All the PC person has to do is spend an extra 70 bucks on Kaspersky Internet Security. Virus/Adware/Firewall...it does it ALL...been running it a few years now and not one virus. So add 70 bucks onto the cost of the windows laptop and it's still WAY cheaper than the Mac. Nice try...but...FAIL
 
All the PC person has to do is spend an extra 70 bucks on Kaspersky Internet Security. Virus/Adware/Firewall...it does it ALL...been running it a few years now and not one virus. So add 70 bucks onto the cost of the windows laptop and it's still WAY cheaper than the Mac. Nice try...but...FAIL
Hahaha. You're funny. I've done that. I've tried that. Yet, I kept getting viruses and stuff and bloatware on my PC. Hence, my switch to the Mac for my work computer. Like I said, the PC is an expensive game machine for me; but not much else.

But then again, I've got a little money and needed something to rely on. If you're poor and not using your computer for work, then I could see your point.
 
Hahaha. You're funny. I've done that. I've tried that. Yet, I kept getting viruses and stuff and bloatware on my PC. Hence, my switch to the Mac for my work computer. Like I said, the PC is an expensive game machine for me; but not much else.

But then again, I've got a little money and needed something to rely on. If you're poor and not using your computer for work, then I could see your point.

*shrugs*

Money had nothing to do with my decision...at the time I bought both my desktop and my laptop, sky was pretty much the limit as far as budget goes...I guess I just don't like the way Macs 'feel'

As for the viruses, I don't know why so many people have so many problems...maybe I'm doing something right without even realizing it? I don't think I'm overly cautious, yet I haven't had a problem since I started using Kaspersky.
 
X brand of a product is not exactly necessary. Y brand of a product is not exactly necessary. Every brand of a product is not exactly necessary. The product is not exactly necessary. No product is exactly necessary. Argumentum ad absurdum.





You listed music, games, youtube, surfing boards, photo albums -- sounds like entertainment to me.

Moreover, you must get funny looks when you use your PS3 at work.



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....ok, let me further clarify my point:

You originally referred to the PS3 as a "game", yet Stanford U. for example is still using many of them in their labs. Install Yellow Dog along with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse and you essentially have a Linux-based "PC" that was comparable in both features and performance to many desktops and laptops (minus portability) at the time of its release.

Hence, my reference to it in a price comparison, which was meant more as sarcasm than anything in the first place. :)
 
*shrugs*

Money had nothing to do with my decision...at the time I bought both my desktop and my laptop, sky was pretty much the limit as far as budget goes...I guess I just don't like the way Macs 'feel'

As for the viruses, I don't know why so many people have so many problems...maybe I'm doing something right without even realizing it? I don't think I'm overly cautious, yet I haven't had a problem since I started using Kaspersky.
Sorry, orb. After re-reading my post, that seemed like a money shot; but I didn't mean it like that. In college, when I was living on noodles and Oreos cookies, I had a PC. :)

Maybe you aren't downloading enough porn...:)

Or maybe if I just switched to gay porn, then maybe I have the same anti-virus success as you... <zing!>

:)
 
Sorry, orb. After re-reading my post, that seemed like a money shot; but I didn't mean it like that. In college, when I was living on noodles and Oreos cookies, I had a PC. :)

Maybe you aren't downloading enough porn...:)

Or maybe if I just switched to gay porn, then maybe I have the same anti-virus success as you... <zing!>

:)

I assure you, I have a str8 porn archive that would make Larry Flynt blush.:)
 
Hahaha. You're funny. I've done that. I've tried that. Yet, I kept getting viruses and stuff and bloatware on my PC. Hence, my switch to the Mac for my work computer. Like I said, the PC is an expensive game machine for me; but not much else.

But then again, I've got a little money and needed something to rely on. If you're poor and not using your computer for work, then I could see your point.

90% of the world uses Windows PC's for work. What were you doing to keep getting viruses? I've looked up porn for hours at a time and came away with nothing more than a half dozen ad-ware cookies that showed up in an anti-spyware scan. AVG 8.0 free version paired with a free anti-spyware program works quite well.
Bloatware can be taken care of by uninstalling all the extra crap that comes with buying a vendor rig. All those software companies will go for the largest install base (PC). Can't blame them I suppose.
Apple will have the same problems if they ever get as big as PC's.
 
90% of the world uses Windows PC's for work. What were you doing to keep getting viruses? I've looked up porn for hours at a time and came away with nothing more than a half dozen ad-ware cookies that showed up in an anti-spyware scan. AVG 8.0 free version paired with a free anti-spyware program works quite well.
Bloatware can be taken care of by uninstalling all the extra crap that comes with buying a vendor rig. All those software companies will go for the largest install base (PC). Can't blame them I suppose.
Apple will have the same problems if they ever get as big as PC's.

Not to mention a cramped up hand and a smile on your face!
 
*shrugs*

Money had nothing to do with my decision...at the time I bought both my desktop and my laptop, sky was pretty much the limit as far as budget goes...I guess I just don't like the way Macs 'feel'

As for the viruses, I don't know why so many people have so many problems...maybe I'm doing something right without even realizing it? I don't think I'm overly cautious, yet I haven't had a problem since I started using Kaspersky.

I've heard numerous PC-literate people who've tried Apple say that using the Mac OS interface more or less felt like an insult to their intelligence.
 
....ok, let me further clarify my point:

You originally referred to the PS3 as a "game", yet Stanford U. for example is still using many of them in their labs. Install Yellow Dog along with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse and you essentially have a Linux-based "PC" that was comparable in both features and performance to many desktops and laptops (minus portability) at the time of its release.

Hence, my reference to it in a price comparison, which was meant more as sarcasm than anything in the first place. :)


The sarcasm wasn't very obvious, lol.

What happens in kid's bedrooms, much like what happens in Stanford's laboratories, isn't a good analogy when trying to debate brand costs of modern life necessities. Video games have come a long way, but it remains, at this time, that video game consoles are bought, sold, and used primarily for entertainment.

However, it does bring up the point of what the future holds: Between personal computers, laptops, powerful video game consoles, and cellphones -- will they all merge? What about size problems involving keyboards?

I loved playing Nintendo when I was a kid. It's amazing how far we've come in such a short period of time.



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90% of the world uses Windows PC's for work. What were you doing to keep getting viruses? I've looked up porn for hours at a time and came away with nothing more than a half dozen ad-ware cookies that showed up in an anti-spyware scan. AVG 8.0 free version paired with a free anti-spyware program works quite well.
Bloatware can be taken care of by uninstalling all the extra crap that comes with buying a vendor rig. All those software companies will go for the largest install base (PC). Can't blame them I suppose.
Apple will have the same problems if they ever get as big as PC's.
My work is mainly project management (Office, Visio, Project, etc). I could use any OS to do that work.

The problem that I used to have is that I'd get so much bloatware each year that I'd have to re-install everything from scratch (via ISO to make it simpler for me). The bloatware came from either small programs that I wanted to try or small additions to my worksuite (ie a WBS formatter for project). I tried the uninstallers, I tried the anti-spy ware. It kept coming. Hence, I decided to switch.

I don't have that problem anymore with my Mac. It's as speedy as when I first got it.

Note, please note that this is what's best for me (for now). I'm not saying that it's the best for everyone. It's like universal healthcare. It works in some cultures. It doesn't work in others.
 
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