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[swole12014]

I'm at the conclusion of my first week on a cycle of test e (400-500 mg/week), dbol (40 mg ED), and deca (200 mg/week). Also taking nolva at 20 mg/day along with vitamin b6 and a host of other ancillary supps. On Saturday, my nipples felt like I'd ran a 25 mile marathon but I'd only done a 5k. Took off my shirt and low and behold, I had some nice luscious looking nipples. So I cut the dbol dosage in half, and worked in liquidex, and things improved almost immediately (whew I dodged a bullet there; at least I know I have good gear). Today, after pinning myself yesterday, I can say I felt it all kick in. I'd had a pump before but today, I felt like the Incredible Hulk; good shit. Perhaps it's a placebo effect but people are already starting to look at me a little different and my gf has this look in her eyes that says "damn"! Diet is really clean so far; keeping fingers crossed.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Nice man, how long you planning on running all this for? What are your current stats? I'd up the deca dose or else cut it out all together, there is not much reward at that dose as opposed to the risk.

 

[swole12014]

I'm 38, 5'9, 196, 13% bf. The test im planning in running 11 weeks, deca for 8, and dbol for 5 weeks. Im a natural endomorph so I build muscle twice as fast as I burn fat, lol. Upping tge deca dose makes sense. Will I also need to increase my ai dose to offset the ok increase?

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Ahh I see, well if you are willing to up it a bit you're also going to have to prolong it too, personally I'm not a huge fan of deca but it is a hell of a drug if you run it for 14-16 weeks, that's really when you get the peak of the results, then it would be wise to run the test another 2 weeks past that. What are you looking to accomplish, obviously pack on some mass right? You should get yourself some aromasin or arimidex bro, nolva really isn't a sufficient AI, more for PCT use.

 

[swole12014]

Yes. Definitely looking to add a little mass but not ridiculous amounts of bulk so no 3 or 4 thousand calories per day for me. Different I know but I have a hypothesis, which I'll share in a few weeks or so for which I'm my own test subject. Four months of deca at 400 mg/week, huh? That's a ridiculously long cycle based on all the research I've done. Scares the hell out of me.

 

[bonacris]

Yes. Definitely looking to add a little mass but not ridiculous amounts of bulk so no 3 or 4 thousand calories per day for me. Different I know but I have a hypothesis, which I'll share in a few weeks or so for which I'm my own test subject. Four months of deca at 400 mg/week, huh? That's a ridiculously long cycle based on all the research I've done. Scares the hell out of me.

Deca can be detected in your body nearly 18 months after you finish it.. it hangs around for a very long time and is very hard to recover from. You think 16 weeks is going to make much difference compared to 10 or 12 weeks. Nope...
your gonna have a hard time recovering from it regardless

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[swole12014]

Deca can be detected in your body nearly 18 months after you finish it.. it hangs around for a very long time and is very hard to recover from. You think 16 weeks is going to make much difference compared to 10 or 12 weeks. Nope...
your gonna have a hard time recovering from it regardless

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My level of knowledge obviously isn't as advanced as yours. Also, I just don't want to be off that long in between cycles. 2 1/2 months off sounds better than four

 

[bonacris]

My level of knowledge obviously isn't as advanced as yours. Also, I just don't want to be off that long in between cycles. 2 1/2 months off sounds better than four

Well then do NPP instead of deca. Short ester, easier to recover from gains are lean and it kicks in quicker.

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[swole12014]

I think that means nandro prop. Can you confirm?

 

[bonacris]

I think that means nandro prop. Can you confirm?

Nandrolone phenyl propionate. Slightly longer than prop. I'm on it right now and loving the results.. I have used deca before and deca gave me more strength but the gains were a lot wetter.. NPP is pretty lean mass

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