100 mg winstrol per day after 1 gram test cycle

[smalljohn]

This whole game is pricy, you dont do steriods on a butchet(um, was right spelling) ofc, do what you want, everyone does, but trenbolone is much more effective per ml than testosterone. Here in norway its the double of a test vial. My supplier aint that expensive.

 

[MaxxReps]

Why drop the test? test is cheap and easier on the body than orals. I'd drop the test to 500mg for another 12 weeks and cut. I cut on 1200 calorie deficit while on 500mg of test with no muscle loss.

 

[rohanum]

This whole game is pricy, you dont do steriods on a butchet(um, was right spelling) ofc, do what you want, everyone does, but trenbolone is much more effective per ml than testosterone. Here in norway its the double of a test vial. My supplier aint that expensive.

You are very lucky. I know it is far more effective than test

 

[rohanum]

Why drop the test? test is cheap and easier on the body than orals. I'd drop the test to 500mg for another 12 weeks and cut. I cut on 1200 calorie deficit while on 500mg of test with no muscle loss.

Because of the bloating issues. Testosterone is cheap as dirt for me , if I could I would definitely use it . I know bloat can be managed through diet and anti estrogens.. All foods have sodium in it And test makes me bloat somewhat regardless of my sodium intake so i can't possibly get as hard as possible on test ...anti estrogens might solve this problem but anti es plus testosterone is really costly compared to just winstrol so why waste money. If I can get the job done without having to worry too much about estrogen an water retention?

 

[RickRock13]

I think you are confusing bloat with just being too fat. If you run the right diet and control your estrogen, a reasonable test dose will not cause bloat. Anybody that's been super lean in stage condition or near it can tell you that. I ran 350mg per week all the way up to my show.

100mg of Winstrol and a gram of test is reckless and blatent abuse. You say you just want to hold onto your muscle but you are running twice as much dose as I've ever ran. Run a sensible dose with the right diet and training. That's all you need. No need AT ALL to go over 50mg of Winstrol. That will get you as hard as nails if you get your body fat there. If you are still too fat, you are too fat. A higher Winstrol dose won't change that

 

[rohanum]

I think you are confusing bloat with just being too fat. If you run the right diet and control your estrogen, a reasonable test dose will not cause bloat. Anybody that's been super lean in stage condition or near it can tell you that. I ran 350mg per week all the way up to my show.

100mg of Winstrol and a gram of test is reckless and blatent abuse. You say you just want to hold onto your muscle but you are running twice as much dose as I've ever ran. Run a sensible dose with the right diet and training. That's all you need. No need AT ALL to go over 50mg of Winstrol. That will get you as hard as nails if you get your body fat there. If you are still too fat, you are too fat. A higher Winstrol dose won't change that

I am 13% bodyfat at the moment and I can distinguish between bloat and fat because I have taken diuretics at one point. I think you didn't read what I said earlier I know it can be controlled with anti estrogens but it's far more costly for me than just winstrol alone.. I used 700 mg test on my first cycle and tolerated that pretty well ,gained 30 lbs and kept all of it. I wasn't small to begin with either, I was pretty big and lean . I would use other injectables like deca with test on my second cycle but I dont have a huge variety of gear available to me hence I opted to replace the deca with more test instead.

About the winstrol , that is why I made this thread . I do not know how much winstrol I will need to preserve the muscle I gain from the gram of test.
Suggestion for The dosage , duration etc will be greatly appreciated .

Looking great by the way if that is you in your display picture . My goal is to somewhat look like you but much bigger.

 

[Race121]

If you're dead set on Winstrol, 50 ED is basically the standard and should be plenty. I've gone as long as six weeks on that dose and anything beyond that is pissing in the wind risk/reward wise. My wrists and elbows start nagging after 4 weeks.

You are using a lot more test than you need to. Trying to rationalize that away doesn't make it less true.

 

[Jack steel]

50mg winny a day is plenty. You guys with the obscenely large doses of gear drive me insane no offense. Should use less and send me the extra lol. Personally, with access to test, tren, and winstrol only I wouldn't need anything else. You kind of have one tool there for any goal you could possibly have.

 

[Jack steel]

Why drop the test? test is cheap and easier on the body than orals. I'd drop the test to 500mg for another 12 weeks and cut. I cut on 1200 calorie deficit while on 500mg of test with no muscle loss.

Second thought... I'd do this but with test even closer to 250mg a week with 50mg winny on top. If you fucking seriosuly have to go over 50mg then just top it out at 75mg dude. It's not necessary but Jesus what a waste. I just hate to see people do that without being worth the risk (liver)

 

[rohanum]

If you're dead set on Winstrol, 50 ED is basically the standard and should be plenty. I've gone as long as six weeks on that dose and anything beyond that is pissing in the wind risk/reward wise. My wrists and elbows start nagging after 4 weeks.

You are using a lot more test than you need to. Trying to rationalize that away doesn't make it less true.

300 mg more test isn't a big leap? I want my cycles to progress somewhat.. As I said before id use deca 400 mg deca +500 mg test but I don't have acess to it.
All the reviews I get on winstrol are fking shit.. Would a lower dose of tren at 300 mgs per week be better?