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[sieusc]

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Few questions;

Is ostarine in tablet/pill form just as effective as liquid form?

Do any of you have experience with mpresearchsupply ostarine?

 

[athlete200]

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Dylan,

If research subject wants to run 4 week of Anavar, how would you do it (with all ancillaries, etc)?

Thanks

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Few questions;

Is ostarine in tablet/pill form just as effective as liquid form?

Do any of you have experience with mpresearchsupply ostarine?

i've never used mpresearch osta and have not seen it around in pill form...

 

[dylangemelli]

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Dylan,

If research subject wants to run 4 week of Anavar, how would you do it (with all ancillaries, etc)?

Thanks

either pm this question to me or start a thread... this is a sarms question thread bro...

 

[sieusc]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Dylan, a question. How do the fat burning properties of S4 compare to clen? Both used as a stand alone

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Dylan, a question. How do the fat burning properties of S4 compare to clen? Both used as a stand alone

clen is very dangerous and i never recommend going anywhere near it... gw is going to have the most fat burning properties... s4 will definitely lean you out but also add lean muscles... s4 has a lot of muscle hardening properties as well... it will give you strength, allow you to add lean muscle and still lean you out...

 

[sieusc]

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clen is very dangerous and i never recommend going anywhere near it... gw is going to have the most fat burning properties... s4 will definitely lean you out but also add lean muscles... s4 has a lot of muscle hardening properties as well... it will give you strength, allow you to add lean muscle and still lean you out...

I know your view on clen. It was more of a reference point to me as ive used clen in the past. So the fat burning ability of S4 does not compare to clen?

 

[mennea12345]

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Dylan ,any help would be much appreciated.
coming from an athletics background ,more precisely a sprinting one .
sarms are perfect for sprinting , the more androgenic the better and if have to fly under the radar .

but my latest athlete has reacted badly to the s4 and assuming is the solvent used peg300.
so what are my options as he still would like to try it and ostarine.
how could i sourse it ,or even dose it ,as tried a s4 with dmso as solvent and reacted even worse .

any info greatly appreciated

 

[dylangemelli]

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I know your view on clen. It was more of a reference point to me as ive used clen in the past. So the fat burning ability of S4 does not compare to clen?

not quite sure what else you want here bro... i described all the benefits of s4... how much you cut will depend on you... i have no advice or anything else to say about clen except that its very dangerous and not worth taking...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Dylan ,any help would be much appreciated.
coming from an athletics background ,more precisely a sprinting one .
sarms are perfect for sprinting , the more androgenic the better and if have to fly under the radar .

but my latest athlete has reacted badly to the s4 and assuming is the solvent used peg300.
so what are my options as he still would like to try it and ostarine.
how could i sourse it ,or even dose it ,as tried a s4 with dmso as solvent and reacted even worse .

any info greatly appreciated

bro, i am a lot of things but one thing i am not is a chemist...

as far as dosing s4... i made a thread on how to do this... http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/how-properly-dose-s4-931903.html

 

[AAS.Achilles]

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So, my rats are exactly one week in on their second Osta/S4 stack. The yellow tinge hit me hard tonight. When I was driving home from work I was at a stop light with quite a few street lights around it, now this was right next to my gym so I know how everything normally looks at night, street lights are mostly blue/white. But this time every light on the damn street was yellow lol, completely tripped me out for a second.

On a another note, already seeing some increase in strength and increased pumps in the gym! 7 more weeks of feeling amazing and gaining strength, just like last time!

 

[jimmy0079]

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So, my rats are exactly one week in on their second Osta/S4 stack. The yellow tinge hit me hard tonight. When I was driving home from work I was at a stop light with quite a few street lights around it, now this was right next to my gym so I know how everything normally looks at night, street lights are mostly blue/white. But this time every light on the damn street was yellow lol, completely tripped me out for a second.

On a another note, already seeing some increase in strength and increased pumps in the gym! 7 more weeks of feeling amazing and gaining strength, just like last time!

s4 wasnt kind to my eyes either bro.Be on top of things.

 

[dylangemelli]

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unfortunately s4 effects some people much worse than others... im one of the lucky ones that can run it at 100 mg a day with very minimal vision problems... some people can't even handle 50... there's no reason bro... the receptor binds to the eye in some much worse than others... its more of a night issue... just make sure you are dosing it properly and responsibly... just keep an eye on it...

 

[mennea12345]

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you miss understood me ,
i meant how can i dose the s4 if i cant find a suitable solvent .
the issue is the solvent!!!!
my guy cant take the peg300 and quickly found out that dmso as solvent doesnt work either,
dmso wouldnt give it to a dog ,as so highly allergic and irritant .


any sources out there that would be willing to provide a different solvent
with s4 or even just in powder form and try to dose it out with sensitive electric weighing scales that goes down to nearest .01g
would be alot easier if was like the gw501516 and almost water soluble then dont
have to mess about with stronger chemical solvents.

oh and yes ,messaged uniquemicals and will only provide s4 as it is sold .

 

[dylangemelli]

you miss understood me ,
i meant how can i dose the s4 if i cant find a suitable solvent .
the issue is the solvent!!!!
my guy cant take the peg300 and quickly found out that dmso as solvent doesnt work either,
dmso wouldnt give it to a dog ,as so highly allergic and irritant .


any sources out there that would be willing to provide a different solvent
with s4 or even just in powder form and try to dose it out with sensitive electric weighing scales that goes down to nearest .01g
would be alot easier if was like the gw501516 and almost water soluble then dont
have to mess about with stronger chemical solvents.

oh and yes ,messaged uniquemicals and will only provide s4 as it is sold .

Bro thats a question your going to have to ask individual companies... I dont deal with that type of thing

 

[mennea12345]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

guess looking for a quick solution, where is none .
many thanks ,
anyhow keep up the stellar work .

 

[aced1]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

im gonna try an ostarine only cylce aiming to lean bulk cuz i cant get everything for my big cycle atm. like on dylans thread (so you want to try ostarine) im thinking of 25mg/day for 6 weeks. i red there that there is no need for PCT. is that true? just wanted to make sure cuz it seems too damn good to be true? also when do u suggest taking it? im only asking cuz on the thread it sais once a day but i have red in many posts something like pm + am split dosage ..

 

[dylangemelli]

im gonna try an ostarine only cylce aiming to lean bulk cuz i cant get everything for my big cycle atm. like on dylans thread (so you want to try ostarine) im thinking of 25mg/day for 6 weeks. i red there that there is no need for PCT. is that true? just wanted to make sure cuz it seems too damn good to be true? also when do u suggest taking it? im only asking cuz on the thread it sais once a day but i have red in many posts something like pm + am split dosage ..

Im lost because the things your saying are things ive NEVER said... Anything over 4 weeks most definitely requires a mini pct and its dosed once a day in the a.m.

 

[aced1]

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lol dylan man i knew you would be here first its from your thread i dont know if u were just reffering to a study. there is what i red:
"Due to the lack of shutdown in comparison to steroids/prohormones, a PCT period is not needed and almost all the mass that is gained on Ostarine is kept once the cycle is finished.
Doses of 25mg for 4-6 weeks are the most common protocol for such goals. Over this 4-6 week period will typically produce 6lbs or 3kg of lean, keepable gains. However the abundant side effects of steroids/Prohormones will not be present."

but if u say mini-pct then mini pct it is. what would you suggest? unleashed/post ??

 

[dylangemelli]

lol dylan man i knew you would be here first its from your thread i dont know if u were just reffering to a study. there is what i red:
"Due to the lack of shutdown in comparison to steroids/prohormones, a PCT period is not needed and almost all the mass that is gained on Ostarine is kept once the cycle is finished.
Doses of 25mg for 4-6 weeks are the most common protocol for such goals. Over this 4-6 week period will typically produce 6lbs or 3kg of lean, keepable gains. However the abundant side effects of steroids/Prohormones will not be present."

but if u say mini-pct then mini pct it is. what would you suggest? unleashed/post ??

Anything over 4 weeks bro... You need to run osta 8 weeks... Pct is a 3 week mini... Run the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (doubled dosed)

 

[aced1]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

roger that boss !

 

[JewJitsu012]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Wow so much great info in this thread! I'm still debating running some s4 or not, just getting back into lifting, don't want to pollute your thread with a long story, but it's here: elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/please-critique-pics-diet-supplements-advice-sarms-trt-37-yr-old-1132943.html

Looking for mass gain, 6' 170 is too skinny! (don't know what my bf is.

 

[Big_Hurt]

Will taking raspberry ketone help to shed fat while taking the S4/osta/GW stack?

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[ricky_bobby7]

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alright so i'm taking the s4 osta stack right now, about a week in and seeing some results. Does is make a difference if i eat right before or after taking the sarms? And i take the osta in the morning should i time the s4 so about 6 hours later i take the second dose right before a workout? Does it matter? Thanks

 

[Elph]

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Just got my osta from unique. First dose today, 25 mg. I've done a ton of research on this stuff and I feel the biggest question is regarding whether or not the bottle of ostarine I got is actually ostarine. I see sarmssearch heavily promoted on here but there is not as much about unique. Did I waste my money on 2 bottles? Having a little buyers remorse and wish I'd spent the extra dollars on SS. Someone make me feel better......

Thanks.

 

[noodles1010]

Just got my osta from unique. First dose today, 25 mg. I've done a ton of research on this stuff and I feel the biggest question is regarding whether or not the bottle of ostarine I got is actually ostarine. I see sarmssearch heavily promoted on here but there is not as much about unique. Did I waste my money on 2 bottles? Having a little buyers remorse and wish I'd spent the extra dollars on SS. Someone make me feel better......

Thanks.

I got the same thing and started my rats on 25 mg osta and 10mg gw today. Unique is gtg. Your over thinking this too much. Run it and enjoy bro. A loot of people on here use unique.

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Wow so much great info in this thread! I'm still debating running some s4 or not, just getting back into lifting, don't want to pollute your thread with a long story, but it's here: elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/please-critique-pics-diet-supplements-advice-sarms-trt-37-yr-old-1132943.html

Looking for mass gain, 6' 170 is too skinny! (don't know what my bf is.

sarms are generally not used for mass gain... you can put on a little size but your intention is not going to be conducive to their usage...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

will taking raspberry ketone help to shed fat while taking the s4/osta/gw stack?

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ab so fucking lutely...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

alright so i'm taking the s4 osta stack right now, about a week in and seeing some results. Does is make a difference if i eat right before or after taking the sarms? And i take the osta in the morning should i time the s4 so about 6 hours later i take the second dose right before a workout? Does it matter? Thanks

it makes no difference whether you take food with it... you can take them all one right after another... just space out s4 and gw throughout the day... you split the doses... if your taking gw, i would definitely take it before a workout...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Just got my osta from unique. First dose today, 25 mg. I've done a ton of research on this stuff and I feel the biggest question is regarding whether or not the bottle of ostarine I got is actually ostarine. I see sarmssearch heavily promoted on here but there is not as much about unique. Did I waste my money on 2 bottles? Having a little buyers remorse and wish I'd spent the extra dollars on SS. Someone make me feel better......

Thanks.

You can't be serious with this? Unique is one of the top rated sarms companies out there... There's so many logs out there that confirm this... fuck, read just one of mine... They are top notch and one of the most reputable out there man...

 

[freakshow85]

Yep, don't worry, unique is legit. I've used them a few times and have never been disappointed with a single thing, from shipping to the actual product, they are good to go.

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[notjake11]

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Same here - loving my SARMs cycle and I bought 2 of the 3 from unique.

 

[clarkken1972]

I love unique but they are again out of stock of s4 grrr next time i buy 10 bottles

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[ricky_bobby7]

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ya i bought my s4 and ostarine from unique, I'm on week 2 right now of the stack and so far so good deffidently more intensity in the gym, I can feel the s4's hardening effect, more vascular all day and it looks like i'm losing some fat already even though i'm up 2 pounds. So far unique is looking like a winner for me.

 

[Phishtribe]

Since androgens have a direct connection in inducing prostate cancer, is there any information about sarms in regards to prostate. How do they compare to other androgens?

 

[BigLP]

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Sorry if this has been asked before, but Im too lazy to look through the thread! Do SARMs burn out your receptors? So if I was on SARMs right now for the month leading up to a test cycle, would I experience, hypothetically, less results from the test due to running the SARM (S4)?

 

[dylangemelli]

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Sorry if this has been asked before, but Im too lazy to look through the thread! Do SARMs burn out your receptors? So if I was on SARMs right now for the month leading up to a test cycle, would I experience, hypothetically, less results from the test due to running the SARM (S4)?

absolutely not

 

[dylangemelli]

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Since androgens have a direct connection in inducing prostate cancer, is there any information about sarms in regards to prostate. How do they compare to other androgens?

the only sarm with any evidence in cancer situations is gw and that is that it can enhance any EXISTING tumors but does not cause them...

 

[Phishtribe]

Awesome sounds good. Thanks

 

[Aussie_Mussel]

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I have purchased 2 bottles of MK-2866 and one bottle of S-4
Weighing 93kgs at the moment, I generally look pretty ripped around 87kgs.
Planning onm doing an 8 week cycle, MK2866 daily, S4 5 days on two days off to minimize vision/side issues

In regard to taking these, am I best to stack the s-4 with the MK_2866 or have them in independent cycles?
Would running S-4 for 4 weeks, then continue just taking MK-2866 up until week 8 suffice?
Also stacking these two, what are your recommendations to run alongside and/or PCT for the S-4

Thanks

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

I have purchased 2 bottles of MK-2866 and one bottle of S-4
Weighing 93kgs at the moment, I generally look pretty ripped around 87kgs.
Planning onm doing an 8 week cycle, MK2866 daily, S4 5 days on two days off to minimize vision/side issues

In regard to taking these, am I best to stack the s-4 with the MK_2866 or have them in independent cycles?
Would running S-4 for 4 weeks, then continue just taking MK-2866 up until week 8 suffice?
Also stacking these two, what are your recommendations to run alongside and/or PCT for the S-4

Thanks

you don't want to go to a 5 on and 2 off protocol until you get the vision issues and they are intolerable... you don't just start that way... you may be one of the lucky ones and not get affected as badly... its an impossible prediction...

you do not run independent cycles of these... you stack them... run them both for 8 weeks...

1-8 ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg day split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-8 hcgenerate or test infusion
1-8 need2slin
1-8 creatine nitrate
3-8 albuterol 12-18 mg day

pct

9-11 unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed)

 

[Aussie_Mussel]

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Ok thanks heaps.

Looks like I will need another bottle of S4 then.

I was hoping to be able to take just the Ostarine
+S4 and not much else. Is it possible to run a more simplified stack? So HCGenerate is quite important?

At the risk of sounding like a noob (I am completely new to this)
What is the thought behind need2slin, creatine nitrate and albuterol?

I understand what a PCT is and the need for unleashed,
But can you clarify what you mean by
Weeks 9-11 bridge (double dosed)?

Cheers

 

[Big_Hurt]

One more question Dylan...

I recently placed an order with unique for osta s4 and gw. The s4 is back ordered with no ETA on delivery. They suggested I drop the s4, will i have diminished results not using s4?

Thanks

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[luwbz]

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Any idea as how long Osta stays detectable in the drug screens, Ive heard that it is now detectable due to its metabolites. Im getting drug tested for the Aus def force in a few months and they will probs look for most things. and Sarms are classified as PED's

 

[dylangemelli]

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Ok thanks heaps.

Looks like I will need another bottle of S4 then.

I was hoping to be able to take just the Ostarine
+S4 and not much else. Is it possible to run a more simplified stack? So HCGenerate is quite important?

At the risk of sounding like a noob (I am completely new to this)
What is the thought behind need2slin, creatine nitrate and albuterol?

I understand what a PCT is and the need for unleashed,
But can you clarify what you mean by
Weeks 9-11 bridge (double dosed)?

Cheers

there are writeups all over the place on all three products bro and i don't have the time to go through each with you... in a quick way, its all going to help you cut and build muscle at the same time...

bridge is a product at needtobuildmuscle.com

 

[dylangemelli]

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One more question Dylan...

I recently placed an order with unique for osta s4 and gw. The s4 is back ordered with no ETA on delivery. They suggested I drop the s4, will i have diminished results not using s4?

Thanks

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results will definitely be better with s4

 

[dylangemelli]

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Any idea as how long Osta stays detectable in the drug screens, Ive heard that it is now detectable due to its metabolites. Im getting drug tested for the Aus def force in a few months and they will probs look for most things. and Sarms are classified as PED's

not sure on detection time but i have not heard of anyone testing for it... it has a 24 hour half life but total detection time, i am not sure...

 

[Aussie_Mussel]

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Thanks Dylan.

I hadn't realised that 'bridge' is an actual product, thought one was referring to bridging between cycles.

Appreciate the help.

Thanks.

 

[ThatGoodStuff]

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Dylan thanks for the awesome thread. Does Osta lose effectiveness if cycles are too close back-to-back? How long do you wait before going again? Assuming a 4 week mini-pct, like you recommend, how much longer should you wait before running it again? Osta at 25 mg ED, run with HCGenerate, forma, and GW.

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Dylan thanks for the awesome thread. Does Osta lose effectiveness if cycles are too close back-to-back? How long do you wait before going again? Assuming a 4 week mini-pct, like you recommend, how much longer should you wait before running it again? Osta at 25 mg ED, run with HCGenerate, forma, and GW.

You should never run anything too close together because your body will become accustomed to it... the mini pct is 3 weeks... Theoretically, you can run another cycle one week after you complete a mini pct but I would wait a while to run sarms again so your body won't be used to it...

 

[A-01]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

I know I'll most likely get some form of reprimand for not really looking through this thread first before asking this, but I'm sure everyone knows how daunting it can seem coming into a 165 page thread as a newbie on the topic of SARMs.
Firstly, my goals will be to build muscle, but currently I have a fractured ankle and I have read that MK-2866 can help heal that as a faster rate than I naturally would (I am on a healthy diet with a good intake of calcium and other bone and muscle support products). Also, as the concepts of these SARMs cycles with a pct are relatively new to me I'd like to ask in a very simplified way.
A: What are the best stacks for gaining (and healing any injuries such as mine) that hopefully revolve around MK-2866 (ostarine)as well as ideal time frame on this? I do not want to risk much suppression.
B: What is the most ideal pct (do I have the concept right that a pct is to wean your body off the SARM and or steroid in some peoples cases), and how long would that be most ideal to take?
I realize that these things might differ slightly between person to person, but for now I'll be happy with a general answer.
And a preemptive huge thanks to anyone who can help me out

 

[Mekat]

Hey dylan, for some reason I cant stand the taste of these, it just lingers in my mouth, no homo, I was wondering if its ok to dose these sarms together in a gel cap and just ttake it that way...?

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[Jbranken]

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Hey Dylan,

I started my own thread on this but received 0 input so ill attempt to ask you here . I'm gonna be running an 8 week cycle of lgd 4033, s4, mk677, and osta. Ive used osta and s4 a few times. it will be run like so:

Week 1,2: LGD 4033 - 5mg
Week 3-5: LGD 4033 - 10mg
Week 6-8: Ostarine - 25mg
Week 1-8: S4 - 50mg (I get sides so ill go to 5 on, 2 off wen they start)
Week 1-8: MK 677 - 25mg

Week 9-12:
Osta 15mg
Jungle Warfare
Erase
Support supps, etc

I'm cutting the lgd off in the middle of cycle to be on the safe side, as I'm unaware of sides and avoiding some shutdown. My questions are, 1) will it still be an effective cycle when I bridge the lgd into ostarine since they are so similar molecularly? 2) is 25mg of mk677 an effective dose for a 6"2 235lb male? I won't start the cycle until I'm around 12-13% bf so my weight will be more like 215-220 realistically. Thanks!

 

[stevesmi]

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you will be very happy with the sarms stack from unique

 

[elite7777]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Hey Bro, question about Osta.

I am on an GW & Osta cycle. I have cycled GW before and love it. This time I added 25 mg of Osta after week 3 of GW. A day or so after starting Osta I started getting painful pumps and muscle soreness while on the bicycle. I expected some pumps but not the sore muscles that will not seem to go away with stretching. I cut the Osta dose in half to 12.5 mg PD and it have been almost 6 days and I am still experiencing the same pumps and soreness. These symptoms wouldn't so bad if I wasn't cyclist/endurance athlete that is not looking for pumps when riding a bicycle and/or running. I know everyone reacts to things differently but have you heard of this with Osta before? I did some searching and didn't seem to find anyone with similar issues. Do you think cutting it down to 6 mg PD would even be worth my time? I am a bit confused???

 

[A-01]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

I know I'll most likely get some form of reprimand for not really looking through this thread first before asking this, but I'm sure everyone knows how daunting it can seem coming into a 165 page thread as a newbie on the topic of SARMs.
Firstly, my goals will be to build muscle, but currently I have a fractured ankle and I have read that MK-2866 can help heal that as a faster rate than I naturally would (I am on a healthy diet with a good intake of calcium and other bone and muscle support products). Also, as the concepts of these SARMs cycles with a pct are relatively new to me I'd like to ask in a very simplified way.
A: What are the best stacks for gaining (and healing any injuries such as mine) that hopefully revolve around MK-2866 (ostarine)as well as ideal time frame on this? I do not want to risk much suppression.
B: What is the most ideal pct (do I have the concept right that a pct is to wean your body off the SARM and or steroid in some peoples cases), and how long would that be most ideal to take?
I realize that these things might differ slightly between person to person, but for now I'll be happy with a general answer.
And a preemptive huge thanks to anyone who can help me out

Ignore this above question, I have since read through much more, though I'd still like some clarification on pct (still fuzzy on if I'm right about it)? Say I was only consuming MK-2866 for a month, A: would I need a PCT, and if so, what sort?

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Hey dylan, for some reason I cant stand the taste of these, it just lingers in my mouth, no homo, I was wondering if its ok to dose these sarms together in a gel cap and just ttake it that way...?

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i really wouldn't do that... just take a chaser i guess...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Hey Dylan,

I started my own thread on this but received 0 input so ill attempt to ask you here . I'm gonna be running an 8 week cycle of lgd 4033, s4, mk677, and osta. Ive used osta and s4 a few times. it will be run like so:

Week 1,2: LGD 4033 - 5mg
Week 3-5: LGD 4033 - 10mg
Week 6-8: Ostarine - 25mg
Week 1-8: S4 - 50mg (I get sides so ill go to 5 on, 2 off wen they start)
Week 1-8: MK 677 - 25mg

Week 9-12:
Osta 15mg
Jungle Warfare
Erase
Support supps, etc

I'm cutting the lgd off in the middle of cycle to be on the safe side, as I'm unaware of sides and avoiding some shutdown. My questions are, 1) will it still be an effective cycle when I bridge the lgd into ostarine since they are so similar molecularly? 2) is 25mg of mk677 an effective dose for a 6"2 235lb male? I won't start the cycle until I'm around 12-13% bf so my weight will be more like 215-220 realistically. Thanks!

i am going to write a thread about lgd tonight or in the morning but i am not recommending any stacking with it anything at this point... its just a bad idea... there are not studies on it and the fact that its so new, its not wise to stack it... your dosage is high for what is recommended on it as well... i would run a sarms triple stack first and then after completing it, run the lgd as as a standalone...

 

[dylangemelli]

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Hey Bro, question about Osta.

I am on an GW & Osta cycle. I have cycled GW before and love it. This time I added 25 mg of Osta after week 3 of GW. A day or so after starting Osta I started getting painful pumps and muscle soreness while on the bicycle. I expected some pumps but not the sore muscles that will not seem to go away with stretching. I cut the Osta dose in half to 12.5 mg PD and it have been almost 6 days and I am still experiencing the same pumps and soreness. These symptoms wouldn't so bad if I wasn't cyclist/endurance athlete that is not looking for pumps when riding a bicycle and/or running. I know everyone reacts to things differently but have you heard of this with Osta before? I did some searching and didn't seem to find anyone with similar issues. Do you think cutting it down to 6 mg PD would even be worth my time? I am a bit confused???

I have never heard of anything like this at all with osta... It should have the opposite effect... you should have a great feeling on it... try some taurine and see if that helps... where are the pumps occurring? 6 mg is not worth it at all...

 

[dylangemelli]

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Ignore this above question, I have since read through much more, though I'd still like some clarification on pct (still fuzzy on if I'm right about it)? Say I was only consuming MK-2866 for a month, A: would I need a PCT, and if so, what sort?

anything over 4 weeks requires a mini pct... running it only 4 weeks is really cutting yourself short and losing out on a lot of quality gains that are there... if you run it longer then you need a 3 week mini pct consisting of the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed)

 

[A-01]

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anything over 4 weeks requires a mini pct... running it only 4 weeks is really cutting yourself short and losing out on a lot of quality gains that are there... if you run it longer then you need a 3 week mini pct consisting of the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed)

Bridge is a standalone product right? Not a term I'm not understanding?
How long would you suggest running it for? And I'm guessing at 25mg a day dosage? I think I've seen some people doing 25mg twice a day..
And what sort of dosages for the Bridge and Unleashed?
I am extremely appreciative of your help with this

 

[elite7777]

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I have never heard of anything like this at all with osta... It should have the opposite effect... you should have a great feeling on it... try some taurine and see if that helps... where are the pumps occurring? 6 mg is not worth it at all...

My pumps and muscle soreness is occurring in my calves, thighs, shoulders and arms. I will try some Taurine and see how that goes.

 

[dylangemelli]

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Bridge is a standalone product right? Not a term I'm not understanding?
How long would you suggest running it for? And I'm guessing at 25mg a day dosage? I think I've seen some people doing 25mg twice a day..
And what sort of dosages for the Bridge and Unleashed?
I am extremely appreciative of your help with this

bridge can be purchased at needtobuildmuscle.com... use coupon code dylan10 for 10% off... osta is ran at 25mg day... you should NEVER exceed 25 mg day... just follow the instructions on the bottle of unleashed... bridge is double dosed what the bottle says... the mini pct is 3 weeks...

 

[dylangemelli]

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My pumps and muscle soreness is occurring in my calves, thighs, shoulders and arms. I will try some Taurine and see how that goes.

try that and see if that helps... i highly doubt its the osta causing this... have you ran it before?

 

[A-01]

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bridge can be purchased at needtobuildmuscle.com... use coupon code dylan10 for 10% off... osta is ran at 25mg day... you should NEVER exceed 25 mg day... just follow the instructions on the bottle of unleashed... bridge is double dosed what the bottle says... the mini pct is 3 weeks...

Thank you very much for your help, and just one last question, as I've read that Osta can do wonders for helping bone recover as well as muscle, I have a small fracture in my ankle that I'm waiting on recovery, if at first my aim of the Osta will be to help that recover (as it will also slow or stop muscle wastage of the affected area)what sort of dosage would be best? Or would it be the same 25mg?

 

[dylangemelli]

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Thank you very much for your help, and just one last question, as I've read that Osta can do wonders for helping bone recover as well as muscle, I have a small fracture in my ankle that I'm waiting on recovery, if at first my aim of the Osta will be to help that recover (as it will also slow or stop muscle wastage of the affected area)what sort of dosage would be best? Or would it be the same 25mg?

25 mg day... i would also run tb-500 with it

 

[A-01]

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25 mg day... i would also run tb-500 with it

Thank you very much for your help, I'll look into where to get some tb-500 and prices.
I wish I knew you in person so I could shoot questions at you all the time!

 

[dylangemelli]

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Thank you very much for your help, I'll look into where to get some tb-500 and prices.
I wish I knew you in person so I could shoot questions at you all the time!

i don't have that much free time bro... i have paying clients all day... =)

 

[elite7777]

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try that and see if that helps... i highly doubt its the osta causing this... have you ran it before?

This is my first time running it and it is from GWP. I can say it is definitely suspended in something different from what their GW is suspended in. Maybe I am having a reaction to the suspension product.

 

[tinytony]

I haven't ventured into the world of SARMs yet and Osta is really tempting me. How suppressive is it at 8-10 weeks? Easily bounce back with an OTC pct or will I need Nolva to avctuall bring it back. Will I be shut down after that long?

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[xdarren18]

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After I finish up my test prop cycle I can use Ostarine as part of my pct along with hcgenerate ? Or should I run my normal pct ( post cycle unleashed hcgenerate bridge ) and then run this sarm as a bridge into my next cycle ? thank you guys.

 

[dylangemelli]

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After I finish up my test prop cycle I can use Ostarine as part of my pct along with hcgenerate ? Or should I run my normal pct ( post cycle unleashed hcgenerate bridge ) and then run this sarm as a bridge into my next cycle ? thank you guys.

I always use ostarine in my pct... You can run osta in pct and then go right into your sarms bridge... here's a proper pct

pct

Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[dylangemelli]

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This is my first time running it and it is from GWP. I can say it is definitely suspended in something different from what their GW is suspended in. Maybe I am having a reaction to the suspension product.

that could be possible but it is still unlikely bro...

 

[dylangemelli]

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I haven't ventured into the world of SARMs yet and Osta is really tempting me. How suppressive is it at 8-10 weeks? Easily bounce back with an OTC pct or will I need Nolva to avctuall bring it back. Will I be shut down after that long?

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its mildly suppressive but running hcgenerate alongside of it keeps this to a minimum... you only need a 3 week mini pct after the cycle... a sufficient pct is the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed)

 

[tinytony]

its mildly suppressive but running hcgenerate alongside of it keeps this to a minimum... you only need a 3 week mini pct after the cycle... a sufficient pct is the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed)

Sounds good. Every time I check N2BM the HCGenerate isn't currently available or something

 

[Mazzz]

Is there a major diifence of osta dosage of 25mg vs 12.5mg? For results? Have heard difference is minimal. .. correct me if I am wrong. .thx

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[dylangemelli]

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Sounds good. Every time I check N2BM the HCGenerate isn't currently available or something

it will be in stock this weekend...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Is there a major diifence of osta dosage of 25mg vs 12.5mg? For results? Have heard difference is minimal. .. correct me if I am wrong. .thx

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there is definitely a difference... you will definitely see the difference in the gains area... 25mg is the sweet spot

 

[tinytony]

there is definitely a difference... you will definitely see the difference in the gains area... 25mg is the sweet spot

Are we talking 25 each day in split doses? Or 25 once a day? Do we need to worry about a half life?

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[dylangemelli]

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Are we talking 25 each day in split doses? Or 25 once a day? Do we need to worry about a half life?

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its once a day in the a.m.

 

[letsgosarms]

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Going to start LGD 4033 today.

have forma stanzolol/L-Dopa/forged PCT/Indole 3-carbinol for cycle and PCT.

I suppose it will be quite hard to squeek out less than 1mg?
as the oral syringe is 10mg per 1ml .

so that means 2mg per line, correct?

want to run below 1mg just for shits sake!

22 y/o , almost 23. My rat has been testing various research chemicals since 19 years of age. This time it is prepared for war! Never taken anabolic steroids.

Could someone provide some insight?

 

[dylangemelli]

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Going to start LGD 4033 today.

have forma stanzolol/L-Dopa/forged PCT/Indole 3-carbinol for cycle and PCT.

I suppose it will be quite hard to squeek out less than 1mg?
as the oral syringe is 10mg per 1ml .

so that means 2mg per line, correct?

want to run below 1mg just for shits sake!

22 y/o , almost 23. My rat has been testing various research chemicals since 19 years of age. This time it is prepared for war! Never taken anabolic steroids.

Could someone provide some insight?

its 1mg per line... so if you want to dose less then it needs to be below the 1 line

 

[RangerAH]

Anybody have any insight on when unique will have S4 back in stock?

 

[LiftLearnLove]

anybody keeping a lgd 4033 log cant find any?

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[letsgosarms]

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its 1mg per line... so if you want to dose less then it needs to be below the 1 line

Thanks. I was so used to ostas oral syringe in opposition.

Is this good for a proper pct:
Forged + forma stanzolol + test booster ?

Rat will be using for its therapeutic value. No more than .2-1mg per day.
For only 3-5 weeks. Maybe a 3 week cycle with a proper pct. then a few weeks off to determine if a higher dose is worth it.
Hearing about benefits of this chemical makes my rat happy.

 

[dylangemelli]

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Anybody have any insight on when unique will have S4 back in stock?

when i know it will be posted AS ALWAYS!

 

[dylangemelli]

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anybody keeping a lgd 4033 log cant find any?

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im sure there will be plenty soon once it gets circulating

 

[dylangemelli]

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Thanks. I was so used to ostas oral syringe in opposition.

Is this good for a proper pct:
Forged + forma stanzolol + test booster ?

Rat will be using for its therapeutic value. No more than .2-1mg per day.
For only 3-5 weeks. Maybe a 3 week cycle with a proper pct. then a few weeks off to determine if a higher dose is worth it.
Hearing about benefits of this chemical makes my rat happy.

i would add test infusion to it... i dont think that three weeks will be sufficient for cycle length...

 

[notjake11]

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This may be beyond the scope of what you want to cover, but I figure it's worth asking just to put it out there. There are lots of threads and discussion on EF about the big three SARMs (Osta, S4 and GW) and the new kid on the block released by unique is obviously a big topic of discussion. What other SARMs are there out there and what do they do? I know there is Aicar, that supposedly works synergistically with GW but is still largely untested/underresearched. I've heard some talk of MK677 but know little to nothing about it. Have you heard anything about that or other SARMs on the horizon?

 

[letsgosarms]

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i would add test infusion to it... i dont think that three weeks will be sufficient for cycle length...

Ok, point taken. But test subjects gained 3 pounds of muscle without working out in three weeks. What would 5 weeks produce 5 pounds of muscle? I'm not looking to get huge. Just big enough at below a 1mg dose.

Why would dosages go anymore than 1mg, if it is proven that you can gain regardless of weight training or not? Does it depend on goals, or does I depend on uniques formula of lgd 4033?

 

[supramanrs]

What's up guys. I totally understand the dosing protocol for the triple sarms / albuterol stack, but have a question. My cycle is ending in 2 weeks, followed by 2 weeks off, then 4 weeks of pct. I planned on starting my bridge / triple sarms stack after pct, with the exception of starting osta in week 2 of pct. Would there be any negative effects as far as recovery in pct if I were to start my triple sarms stack along with pct? Or is the better choice to wait until after? Thanks.

 

[supramanrs]

By the way, my diet and training are perfectly dialed in, as I am in prep for a show in june, thanks. My pct is as follows in case it matters...
-clomid 25/25/25/25
-unleashed / post cycle combo
-forma stanzol
-daa powder
-keto burn

 

[dylangemelli]

What's up guys. I totally understand the dosing protocol for the triple sarms / albuterol stack, but have a question. My cycle is ending in 2 weeks, followed by 2 weeks off, then 4 weeks of pct. I planned on starting my bridge / triple sarms stack after pct, with the exception of starting osta in week 2 of pct. Would there be any negative effects as far as recovery in pct if I were to start my triple sarms stack along with pct? Or is the better choice to wait until after? Thanks.

S4 is suppressive. So running it in pct will not allow you to recover... Osta is inly mildly suppressive and gw is actually very nice in pct

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok, point taken. But test subjects gained 3 pounds of muscle without working out in three weeks. What would 5 weeks produce 5 pounds of muscle? I'm not looking to get huge. Just big enough at below a 1mg dose.

Why would dosages go anymore than 1mg, if it is proven that you can gain regardless of weight training or not? Does it depend on goals, or does I depend on uniques formula of lgd 4033?

Maybe a few test subjects did but i assure you that does not hold true for most... Many dont even see osta start to kick in for at least two weeks... You do what you want but im pretty sure at this point i have a grasp on how it works...

Who said anything about exceeding doseage on lgd? There is little to none in regards to info on lgd so we are following the recommended protocol unique provided... Since they produced it, i think it would be wise to do what they are recommending...

 

[supramanrs]

S4 is suppressive. So running it in pct will not allow you to recover... Osta is inly mildly suppressive and gw is actually very nice in pct

Thanks man, appreciate it. I guess I'll start running osta and gw along with pct, then throw s4 in immediately when pct ends.

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

This may be beyond the scope of what you want to cover, but I figure it's worth asking just to put it out there. There are lots of threads and discussion on EF about the big three SARMs (Osta, S4 and GW) and the new kid on the block released by unique is obviously a big topic of discussion. What other SARMs are there out there and what do they do? I know there is Aicar, that supposedly works synergistically with GW but is still largely untested/underresearched. I've heard some talk of MK677 but know little to nothing about it. Have you heard anything about that or other SARMs on the horizon?

Aicar is not a sarm... These are the mainstream sarms... There are others in developing stages but there is very little info out there at this point... mk677 is not widely used because it does not have anywhere near the benefits of the big three... in actuality, gw is not really a sarm either, although categorized with them...

 

[JB37]

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If i'm running 5 weeks of Ostarine solo at 12.5mg the first week then 25mg weeks 2-5 will i need a mini PCT? i will be taking 3g DAA for 8 weeks. the 5 weeks on cycle and 3 weeks post cycle

 

[dylangemelli]

If i'm running 5 weeks of Ostarine solo at 12.5mg the first week then 25mg weeks 2-5 will i need a mini PCT? i will be taking 3g DAA for 8 weeks. the 5 weeks on cycle and 3 weeks post cycle

Anything over 4 weeks requires a mini pct

 

[JB37]

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cool thanks man..so if a PCT is needed if ran longer than 4 weeks and optimal gains come from longer cycles, what would be the most cost efficient cycle set up for an 8 week Ostarine only bulking cycle?

 

[dylangemelli]

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cool thanks man..so if a PCT is needed if ran longer than 4 weeks and optimal gains come from longer cycles, what would be the most cost efficient cycle set up for an 8 week Ostarine only bulking cycle?

As i have said COUNTLESS times, sarms are not used for "bulking cycles"