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Winstrol/Test and strong steroid rating system

I'm aware taking orals is certainly dangerous for me, but by making this post I was hoping to expand my knowledge on the subject more than anything, and doesn't winstrol also come in an injectable form or is it not the same?
 
Winstrol isn't generally recommended for a first cycle, but i will say that winstrol not being as anabolic as others is wrong. From what i've seen and read, it's the second most anabolic under tren. People just tend to use it for cutting because there's no water retention distorting their progress. Losing gains from something just because it's taken orally doesnt make any logical sense. That's a myth.
 
Winstrol isn't generally recommended for a first cycle, but i will say that winstrol not being as anabolic as others is wrong. From what i've seen and read, it's the second most anabolic under tren. People just tend to use it for cutting because there's no water retention distorting their progress. Losing gains from something just because it's taken orally doesnt make any logical sense. That's a myth.


I read somewhere that it shut down testosterone production, but if false it can be used as a single cycle? Also, why is it quoted better then test E/C/S in the chart as to maintain gains after cycle?
 
what a fucking mess.

how do you robs keep dealing with these noobs day in day out?
 
Firstly your too light at your height to cycle . And your young, plus a strong oral like winny and chrons is not a smart combination. Test is your best bet if you ever do decide to not take our advice , which you should take. Buy some creatine and beta alanine and eat more food.

Also whoever said you can't bulk on winny is mistaken, sure it's not ideal but damn the gains you make are hard and legit and strong as a bull.
 
I'm not trying to be rude. So don't take this the wrong way.

You need to seriously learn how to eat and train! That's all you need for the next 3-5 years.

The goal for most Bulking cycles is to gain 15-30lb. Even if you gained 30lb you would still be way under weight. So it would be a complete waste.

I'm 5'10 and 210. Your 60lb smaller than me and your 2 inches taller?

You only take steroids after your body has reached its maximum size or strength. You could run 3 cycles in a row and still be small and weak. See the problem here? You need to learn how to EAT AND TRAIN! Steroids will not make up for bad diet and training. Sorry bro.

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The same way they dealt with you when you didn't know shit, now if you don't have a relevant input just don't comment

I picked up a book so people didnt have to deal with that. So youre 21, or 19 or whatever and about 50 lbs and 5 years from where you should be before hitting the sauce. And you have a serious medical condition that is exacerbated with steroid use.

what other input is really needed here besides stop, drop, and roll
 
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