Need some answers about forma-stanzol and how to use it please help

[Thesteelcurtain357]

this is my current cutting cycle

weight 180lbs, 6-7% bodyfat height 6

300mg test e for 12 weeks
40mg anavar ED weeks 6-14
50mg winstrol ED weeks 8-14
currently in week 7 of my cycle*

On to incorporating forma into my cycle, i have gyno from a previous cycle that is under control, and the lumps seem to have gotten slightly smaller since starting anavar, anyways my question is with my current cycle is it possible to use forma at a dose that would reduce my gyno further and perhaps improve my cycle and continue its use into PCT?

my PCT is planned as follows so how could i incorporate forma into this?

100mcg shot of Triptorelin
Aromasin 25mg ED for 4 weeks
nolva at 20/20/10/10

i really just want to know, what dosage should i run on cycle to notice some gains and drying out effects, or if i should use it only in PCT then what dosage / how should i run it, thanks for any and all advice

 

[SRTank]

i know what most guys would say so il say it...get rid of the nolva and get clomid or run NTBM unleashed/post cycle stack for PCT as for fotma is a great poduct u can run intra cycle at 10 pumps a day at
5 split up am/pm..also run on PCT
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[Thesteelcurtain357]

i know what most guys would say so il say it...get rid of the nolva and get clomid or run NTBM unleashed/post cycle stack for PCT as for fotma is a great poduct u can run intra cycle at 10 pumps a day at
5 split up am/pm..also run on PCT
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why would you have me add in clomid? i feel thats unnecessary given the results people have been experiencing with just trip and no clomid, if anything i feel i would just toss the nolva because i dont think ill have any issue with gyno in this PCT..anyone with more knowledge as to using clomid and trip together please correct me if i am wrong....but 5 pumps am/pm from now till end of PCT sounds good to me

 

[RickRock13]

For the Forma 5 pumps AM and 5 pumps PM is a good start. That dose has always worked for me very well.

From what I've heard, the Triptorelin is used as a kickstart and not all through PCT I thought. I was under the impression that it was bad to run it long lengths and cause more harm to recovery but I could be wrong. I don't know much about it.

I agree your PCT needs work though and I would have Clomid for sure

 

[Thesteelcurtain357]

For the Forma 5 pumps AM and 5 pumps PM is a good start. That dose has always worked for me very well.

From what I've heard, the Triptorelin is used as a kickstart and not all through PCT I thought. I was under the impression that it was bad to run it long lengths and cause more harm to recovery but I could be wrong. I don't know much about it.

I agree your PCT needs work though and I would have Clomid for sure

from what i understand and the studies i've read involving triptorelin, one single 100mcg shot, when the body is completely ready to being PCT and all esters have cleared the system, is enough to completely restore HPTA function on its OWN without the use of clomid or SERMs.

Here is something posted on another forum about it

"GnRH (triptorelin) 100mcg
Dosing and side effects

Like many chemicals, we want to really pay attention to our dosing. GnRH makes a great jumpstart, probably now the most effective jumpstart chem, because unlike hcg, it stimulates both lh - leutenizing hormone - and FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - to a higher extent and has a much more lasting effect. But much like hcg, dihydrotestosterone, HMB, ect ect, we need to be very careful with our pituitary and avoid hyper-stimulation. We need to pulse it once, at a small dose, simulating the pulse that is normally sent from our brain, and then let our bodies do the rest of the work.
GnRH is so powerful that large doses (around 4mg), repeated once a month, is being used as a chemical form of castration. This dose is so intense on the pituitary, that it hyper-stimulates, resulting in castration-like levels of testosterone serum in the body. Much like hcg, dosing is delicate, and too much is not a good thing. We need to use GnRH as a restart, one-and-done, and not over-do things because it may have a much more opposite and negative effect.

Without any further talk, here is my recommendation for use. One single 100mcg dose per cycle, after all esters have cleared the body and you are 100% ready for recovery. hcg should still be used on-cycle, but in my opinion this full-stimulation should be saved for the PCT and recovery phase. Use hcg on cycle to continue simulating lh - leutenizing hormone - , and then GnRH in the post cycle. Studies I have read have seen results from even 600mcg used in a three-day period, and still hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - function was completely restored, and his hormone levels remained within the normal range during three checkups within the following year. This suggests that the restart will not have the “flare” effect if used at reasonable doses. Another study showed the same effect, with a dose of only one 100mcg injection into a bodybuilder who had been shutdown for 13 years. That said, no more then 100mcg per 4 months. Do not exceed 1mg within a year to avoid the castration-like shutdown of your system. That even gives you room to do it after an 8-week cycle, take the appropriate time off, and then begin another. And for oral-only cycles that are under 8 weeks, save your money, as Triptorelin is not cheap stuff. Better yet, don’t do oral only cycles, as they are a waste of time, but that’s a whole nother fish to fry, which I will do later. "

I'm trying to learn about this as much as everyone else so the more knowledge and discussion we can get about it the better.

 

[dylangemelli]

here's a better question for you... why are you running anavar AND winstrol? why do you not list any n2guard to protect yourself against the double level of problems you are going to be causing your bp, liver and lipids... you have anavar listed as 9 weeks running... that's too long... you should run anavar and proviron and drop the winstrol or just run winstrol... 6 weeks for either one on the back end... you are not wise in the way you are running that...

 

[Thesteelcurtain357]

here's a better question for you... why are you running anavar AND winstrol? why do you not list any n2guard to protect yourself against the double level of problems you are going to be causing your bp, liver and lipids... you have anavar listed as 9 weeks running... that's too long... you should run anavar and proviron and drop the winstrol or just run winstrol... 6 weeks for either one on the back end... you are not wise in the way you are running that...

...i figured this would come up..im only running the anavar for 7 weeks, i miss typed it in the OP, and im running anavar and winstrol because the two have different effects on the physique and i really want the dry look winstrol gives. Also i ddn't list any support supps like N2guard because im already using other support supps, my BP is well within range, and i've run similar oral cycles in the past and my bloods have always come back good so i see no need for concern especially with such a low dose of anavar, i know people who stack dbol and abombs up too 100mg each, i understand your just trying to help but i really see no need for concern with the stack im running....

 

[Thesteelcurtain357]

Also to add on, i'm not trying to come off like a dick, i'm greatful for any and all advice, im just trying to learn as much as possible so excuse my criticisms, if you still feel 40mg of anavar for 7 weeks and 50mg of winny for 6 weeks is too harmful even with the proper precautions then let me know

 

[dylangemelli]

Also to add on, i'm not trying to come off like a dick, i'm greatful for any and all advice, im just trying to learn as much as possible so excuse my criticisms, if you still feel 40mg of anavar for 7 weeks and 50mg of winny for 6 weeks is too harmful even with the proper precautions then let me know

honestly, i think your best move is to run anavar for 6 weeks at 60 mg for 4 weeks and then possibly bump it to 80 mg the last 2 weeks... you could run proviron alongside of it at 50 mg for 4 weeks and then bump to 75 mg the last 2 weeks... anavar and winnie together is just so toxic man... its going to be hard on your bp, liver, lipids, cause shutdown, etc... i would do one or the other... anavar and proviron or winnie...