Help needed with blood results pls

[Brock99]

Background info to the problem i have been having is below.


In August 2011 I took a 1.5cc of Deca 300, this shut me down but due to various factors this did not register with me. I did another jab of 1cc of deca300 3 weeks later at this point my body seemed as though it was rebounding back from the first jab, the second shot shut me down with ED and no sex drive. I know i was foolish and shouldnt have done deca on its own however never had any problems with it before when used on short cycles. After researching a bit i saw that the general concensus is to run test for a bit longer so i took a shot of sustanon at the end of August and was advised to just leave my body as it would rebound back quick due to it being a short cycle.

I was advised that i did not need pct for such a small cycle, i do not have any performace problems in the bedroom but dont seem to have any libido.........at the start of December i decided to run a pct so ran some clomid 100/100/50/50/50.......I also noticed with the second shot of Deca my sperm was watery this has improved with time even though it is still a bit watery.

Libido has slightly improved since running pct but still not feeling 100%..........

Below are some of the blood results that have come back



prolactin (range 60-208) 189.0
serum testosterone (range 6.1-27.2) 15.6
serum fsh (range 1.27-19.26) 6.4
serum lh (range 1.2-8.6) 2.7
serum free t4 level (range 7.5-21.1) 10.9
oestradiol range (range 73-322) 143


Values on the right are the results.

Also as stated in the other thread my chest seems puffy at times and noticed there seems to be a very small amount of lactating on one side. Having researched this it seems as though this could be due to prolactin.

Can someone please shed some light on the results, would runing a second pct of clomid with torremifene and dosintex (caber) help??


Is lh and fsh normal?? Also does the prolactin not seem a bit on the high side??


Your help will be much appreciated

 

[Brock99]

Just been to doctors and got the results printed, need some help pls.

LH seems a bit low?? Also is prolactin a bit high??

Serum TSH (0.34-5.6) - 4.86miu/L
Serum Oestradiol (73-322) - 143.0 pmol/L
Serum Testosterone (6.1-27.2) - 15.6nmol/L
Serum Prolactin (60-278) - 189.0mu/L
Serum FSH (1.27-19.26) - 6.4iu/L
Serum LH (1.2-8.6) - 2.7iu/L
Serum free T4 level (7.5-21.1) - 10.9 pmol/L

Blood count is fine
Vitamin D is low

 

[ghostrider1000]

Dude, your test are all in the normal range, the low normal LH is expected post cycle.

Relax and let your system recover........you got away lightly with the deca....that stuff is a nightmare...

 

[Brock99]

Just been to doctors and got the results printed, need some help pls.

Serum TSH (0.34-5.6) - 4.86miu/L
Serum Oestradiol (73-322) - 143.0 pmol/L
Serum Testosterone (6.1-27.2) - 15.6nmol/L
Serum Prolactin (60-278) - 189.0mu/L
Serum FSH (1.27-19.26) - 6.4iu/L
Serum LH (1.2-8.6) - 2.7iu/L
Serum free T4 level (7.5-21.1) - 10.9 pmol/L

Blood count is fine
Vitamin D is low



A bit confused as the prolactin has come back within range but i seem to get puffy nipples when relatively in a warm environent and if i squeeze one side a very small amount of clear liquid comes out........from research this points to prolactin.....advised the doctor of this but he is saying everything is within normal range.........

I also think testosterone is a bit low for my age i am 2 months shy of being 28.........is this correct for converting from nmol to ng/dl 15.6 divided by .0347 (conversion factor for testosterone, info from the net) this gives me a value of 449.57

Would running a second pct help maybe clomid/Tormifene with dostinex and some hcgenerate or tongkat??

Thanks Ghostrider I am now nearly 6 months since the last shot..........libido is still not fully back to normal no problems performing just missin that animal urge,lol

 

[TONY83]

Dude, your test are all in the normal range, the low normal LH is expected post cycle.

Relax and let your system recover........you got away lightly with the deca....that stuff is a nightmare...

Normal range compared to who? How do you know that the normal range for his boddy to function properly is not somewhere else. I think he needs to find a doctor who will listen to him and not base everything solely on his blood test.

 

[Brock99]

Thanks for the advice Tony, would you advised for me to tell the doctor about the steroid use?? I am from the UK, just wanted to find a way of getting my body back to normal without having to have this put on my medical record. I have been deliberating on running a second pct with some dostinex for the puffy chest and small amount of lactation. Was hoping for a bit more advice in regards to the results from the experienced users on here.

 

[Brock99]

was hoping for some more input from the experienced folk on here..........

After lots of research seems the deca has messed my thyroid or this could be something linked to the cortisol spike that progestins induce which had a knock on effect on to the thyroid. 10 months and still no return of libido. have an endo appointment in a weeks time and will be going for some more bloods also

 

[liffalot]

Thanks for the advice Tony, would you advised for me to tell the doctor about the steroid use?? I am from the UK, just wanted to find a way of getting my body back to normal without having to have this put on my medical record. I have been deliberating on running a second pct with some dostinex for the puffy chest and small amount of lactation. Was hoping for a bit more advice in regards to the results from the experienced users on here.

I would say yes, but most doctors dont know anything about how to properly use anabolic steroids or how to PCT.

Clomid alone was not nearly enough PCT even for a short cycl,an your doseway way too high.

Yes, your LH is low as to be expected and your prolactin is high for a male, also expected from deca.

I would just run a full PCT and see how that works. It sounds liek you have some water retention too and that should help you out

 

[Brock99]

New Blood results done last week, bloods drawn at 9.15am

LH 3.02 (1.2-8.6)
FSH 7.6 (1.27-19.26)
Testosterone 11.6 nmol (6.1-27.2)
SHBG 29.8 (13.2-89.5)
Prolactin 11miu (60-278)
TSH 3.1 (0.34-5.6)
Free T4 13.9pmol (7.5-21.1)

The testosterone appears to have dropped a bit even tho the ndo did say it will vary to a degree everytime you test. Prolactin is low now as ran dostinex (caber) for a month and stopped this a month or so ago.

It still feels as though my testicles are atrophied as they hang very high and tight.

Was thinking of going to seem my local gp to get more comprehensive blood tests done next week and maybe going private.......anyone know of any good endos in the UK with experience of patients who used steroids??

Im also having issues with fertility as sperm still appears to bea watery, and will be going for a sperm test in a a few weeks after which i will be referred to a fertility specialist.......would you still recoomend me running another pct in the meantime as will be 3-4 weeks for a sperm test and then another 4-6 weeks to be seen by a fertility specialist.

 

[liffalot]

New Blood results done last week, bloods drawn at 9.15am

LH 3.02 (1.2-8.6)
FSH 7.6 (1.27-19.26)
Testosterone 11.6 nmol (6.1-27.2)
SHBG 29.8 (13.2-89.5)
Prolactin 11miu (60-278)
TSH 3.1 (0.34-5.6)
Free T4 13.9pmol (7.5-21.1)

The testosterone appears to have dropped a bit even tho the ndo did say it will vary to a degree everytime you test. Prolactin is low now as ran dostinex (caber) for a month and stopped this a month or so ago.

It still feels as though my testicles are atrophied as they hang very high and tight.

Was thinking of going to seem my local gp to get more comprehensive blood tests done next week and maybe going private.......anyone know of any good endos in the UK with experience of patients who used steroids??

Im also having issues with fertility as sperm still appears to bea watery, and will be going for a sperm test in a a few weeks after which i will be referred to a fertility specialist.......would you still recoomend me running another pct in the meantime as will be 3-4 weeks for a sperm test and then another 4-6 weeks to be seen by a fertility specialist.

It looks to me by your bloods that your body is slowly recovering on its own bro.....

Reasons:

1. Your LH is slowly rising. Low LH post cycle is normal, and the fact that it is slowly beginning to rise again shows that your body is getting feedback from your negative feedback loop.

2. You test is dropping. Your LH is rising because your Test is returning to normal. LH causes the release of natural testosterone, so if your test levels are elevated past their normal range, the negative feedback loop slows the production of LH. The fact that your test levels are dropping slightly and your LH is rising slightly shows that your HPTA is working just fine.

3. Your FSH is rising. FSH produces its own negative feedback loop - too much FSH will shut down FSH production, and too little FSH will increase FSH production. Another sign that your HPTA is working just fine.

4. Your T4 is up, which means your thyroid is working fine as well.

What was your SHGB in the first test? It seems a little low, but it all depends on comparing it to your original tests.

Even given the fact that your shit is recovering well, run a PCT just in case - it cant hurt.

I would run HCGenerate + Forged Post Cycle. That should be all that you need given your situation.