PCT after using underdosed gear????

[6Tom6Tom6]

Whats up everyone. Was doing a 12 week cycle of test e but its 10 weeks in and i know for sure its underdosed gear. All the sides, none of the benefit. I just wanted to know what PCT would be like for this. With my first cycle i made GREAT gains and kept 85% of them after PCT and months afterwards till i started this underdosed cycle -_-. What i'm asking is, if i lost 15% of what i gained from that first cycle, will i lose anything this cycle since there were NO gains?? How can i lose SOME gains if i didn't make any, right? Or will lose some of what i had before this cycle? Thank you

 

[liknoother]

bro I just started pct for the same scenario and I lost incredible amounts of size in my 2 weeks off leading up to my pct which leads me to believe that not only was it underdosed but not even enanthate. Not sure how pct protocalls would differ for this situation but I am running clomid/nolva 200/40day 1, 100/20day1-21 just to be on the safe side. All I can say is watch out man cause if you bought your pct shit from the same source it is probably as bunk as your gear. Best luck bro

 

[auslifter90]

well depends how underdosed. if you were still suppressed or shut down then you may lose a bit of muscle/put on a little fat from having low test for a few weeks but i dont think itd be much of a worry. just pct as per nomal, use liquid chems and pct stuff from here to be safe

 

[Cali72]

bro I just started pct for the same scenario and I lost incredible amounts of size in my 2 weeks off leading up to my pct which leads me to believe that not only was it underdosed but not even enanthate. Not sure how pct protocalls would differ for this situation but I am running clomid/nolva 200/40day 1, 100/20day1-21 just to be on the safe side. All I can say is watch out man cause if you bought your pct shit from the same source it is probably as bunk as your gear. Best luck bro

Terrible pct bro.

 

[6Tom6Tom6]

If i lose any size and/or strength then someone is receiving a nasty letter from me....and by nasty letter i mean a lead pipe to the head. Nothing worse then wasting money now a days =/. And i got my pct supplies from somewhere totally different....i'm glad i at least did that now. I almost got it from the same source.

 

[muscleaddiction]

bro I just started pct for the same scenario and I lost incredible amounts of size in my 2 weeks off leading up to my pct which leads me to believe that not only was it underdosed but not even enanthate. Not sure how pct protocalls would differ for this situation but I am running clomid/nolva 200/40day 1, 100/20day1-21 just to be on the safe side. All I can say is watch out man cause if you bought your pct shit from the same source it is probably as bunk as your gear. Best luck bro

Where have you done your research on PCT? This needs a lot of work bro! Nolva is complete waste of money, stop using it as of now and pick up Unleashed/Post Cycle, Forma Stanzol, and D-Aspartic Acid...along with low dose Clomid @ 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 you will recover fine...even on legit gear, not to mention bunk gear. The two of you need to research PCT a little more before your next cycle.

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[liknoother]

Listen Guys, if we knew everything we wouldn't be asking questions on sites like these. I have been using clomid/nolva for years now and never had a problem. This time I was completely f'd because not only was my gear underdosed but my adex was fake. Like I said I dont even think it was test e because I lost considerable size before I could start pct. Now if there are newer pct protocalls that are more effective than the traditional clomid/nolva what are they? How much Unleashed/post cycle/forma stanzol? Frequency? and for how long? all 6tom was looking for was a little help. Could you guys actually help him or do you just come in here to berate?

 

[littleb]

I too have used clomid/nolva pct for years with zero problems, and have known many more that use it as well..
I have no problems accepting that there may be new and better pct protocals out there, but to bash on guys and basically call them dumb for running a pct that has been used thousands of times over the years is wrong IMO..
You can bash me all you want, I only run clomid nolva pct and recover fine everytime... Like i said there may very well be better pct's I dont doubt that, but,,, if there is something that you have used and it worked good, why change it? Too much negitive feedback going on...

 

[muscleaddiction]

Listen Guys, if we knew everything we wouldn't be asking questions on sites like these. I have been using clomid/nolva for years now and never had a problem. This time I was completely f'd because not only was my gear underdosed but my adex was fake. Against my better judgement I ordered my shit from alin and I'll never make that ,mistake again. Like I said I dont even think it was test e(I ordered stealth) because I lost considerable size before I could start pct. Now if there are newer pct protocalls that are more effective than the traditional clomid/nolva what are they? How much Unleashed/post cycle/forma stanzol? Frequency? and for how long? all 6tom was looking for was a little help. Could you guys actually help him or do you just come in here to berate?

Hey bro, I feel your frustration, but please edit your post above and take out the source talk/names please...it is against forum rules. I will let you handle it respectively.

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[muscleaddiction]

I too have used clomid/nolva pct for years with zero problems, and have known many more that use it as well..
I have no problems accepting that there may be new and better pct protocals out there, but to bash on guys and basically call them dumb for running a pct that has been used thousands of times over the years is wrong IMO..
You can bash me all you want, I only run clomid nolva pct and recover fine everytime... Like i said there may very well be better pct's I dont doubt that, but,,, if there is something that you have used and it worked good, why change it? Too much negitive feedback going on...

I am guilty of some of the negative feedback regarding this and I appreciate your feedback in regards to delivery of this type of feedback as well to our members. I do believe in the new age of PCT as so much has evolved, and everybody has their own choice...I too am a advocate for if it's not broken don't fix it or mess with it...so on that note if it is working for you then more power to you, but if a member were to ask what they should use for PCT I will respectively give my opinion. I did not mean any disrespect to either of you, and the best of luck into your future PCT's.



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