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Best Injectables for strength.

kwantz

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What are the best injectables for strength excluding the obvious Test and tren. with the least amount of water/bloat.
 
So masteron,primo are not really good choices for strength? Ive tried EQ before, will never touch it again, gave me the worst anxiety I have ever had in my entire life...
 
if strength is what you are after, tren is king... period. done. that is it.
this should not even be a discussion... there is no comparison...
deca would be a far second, not npp... and the reason is that you will get more strengh from deca than npp is simply from the added water weight... but neither touch on tren.
 
just looking to take a break from tren is all.... Looking to try something new. I have over 300ml of tren sitting around...
Ive been reading so many mixed reviews about masteron... Was thinking of brewing up Test/mast/primo kick starting with stanovar (winny/anavar)
see what kind of strength/hardness I can get from that.
 
isn't diesel or beast suppossed to give sick strength?

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you should invent it cause aside from tren I don't know of anything that comes close without bloat.

that would be nice though huh?

lolll for sure steve... and while hes at it... id like some seeds that will grow me a money tree

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I think you will have trouble getting it to hold at 300mg/ml
I don't have any problem with it holding at 200mg /ml with 3%ba and 20%bb
 
What are the best injectables for strength excluding the obvious Test and tren. with the least amount of water/bloat.

There is none better than tren for injectable, and for oral halo is king with anadrol in second. Every other injectable will increase strength to some extent, but not even close to tren.
 
hey right sorry to hijack the thread and all but i cant figure out how to post my own thread anyways how does the following cycle look for a lean bulk

prochem tri test 400 per week
pro chem equipoise 300 per week
pre chem mast e 200 per week

superdrol for the first 4 weeks of the cycle at 40 mg per day

cycle support while on the drol

armoasin at 10 mg per day if needed

hcg pre pct blast

nolva and clomid for pct

curently weighing in at 215 at 5.8 about 14 percent bodyfat wont be starting this cycle till im at least 10 percent tho

looking to eat around 1.5 to 2 gs carbs per pound of lean bodymass will adjust tho if i start gettin too fat

protien at around 400 per day

fats at around 100 per day

this is only my second injectable cycle so dont know if im going overboard

still gonna be doing cardio low intensity 3 days per week for 30 mins ish and traning 4 days per week kinda fst7 style



anyways wat you all think of the above ..am i going overboard or does this look allright
 
id personally bump up the injects and lower the superdrol to 30mg.
Test 500mg
EQ 400mg (minimum) (200 is pretty much useless)
Mast 500mg-600mg

but hey thats just me.
 
If you are training and eating right...you can make anything work for you. I've worked with lots of people who set HUGE records using 500 Test and 500 Masteron/Deca/EQ per 7-14 days.
 
I guess im gunna go with masteron.... I personally dont like EQ fucks with my head to much (anxiety/depression)
I have just incorporated tren with my last 5-6 cycles. I just want to try something different for a change.
Thinking Test/Mast/Stanovar (winny/var combo).
 
I guess im gunna go with masteron.... I personally dont like EQ fucks with my head to much (anxiety/depression)
I have just incorporated tren with my last 5-6 cycles. I just want to try something different for a change.
Thinking Test/Mast/Stanovar (winny/var combo).

Just don't be surprised if you are disappointed in your strength gains compared to the tren you've ran before.
 
If your dead set on leaving out tren, then run test, deca, and dbol. This will produce a significant strength increase if diet and training are sopt on.
 
if your not going to run tren then the best addition for strength is going to be halo... 4 weeks... 20-40 mg on the back end of the cycle... that's going to provide you the most strength besides tren...
 
What provides more strength? Masteron or Primobolan... Have access to both powders...
Masteron is more androgenic, im assuming it would produce more strength, but the anabolic ratio of primo is appetizing as well for some decent lean gains
 
masteron is your next best bet after tren for a decent boost in strength with no bloat

it was pretty good for me at 100mg/day in the strength department
 
if your not going to run tren then the best addition for strength is going to be halo... 4 weeks... 20-40 mg on the back end of the cycle... that's going to provide you the most strength besides tren...

really, bro?? halo is pretty damn harsh from what I hear. I've never tried it but I wouldn't go recommending it at anywhere near 40mg to someone who's never used it.

I assume you've used it before?
 
Test/Tren/Primo/Mast with anavar would be dirty.... I wouldnt mind trying something like this in the future.... Maybe next spring.
 
really, bro?? halo is pretty damn harsh from what I hear. I've never tried it but I wouldn't go recommending it at anywhere near 40mg to someone who's never used it.

I assume you've used it before?

for someone who has ran 5-6 tren cycles, i highly doubt halo is going to be harsher... if he didn't have that kind of experience, 20 would be all i would say straight through... i am implying to start at 20 and assess from there... and yes i have used it... it can be harsh to an extent which is why 4 weeks is plenty...
 
Just interested, taking these serious strength stacks, what are everyone's PRs for squat, bench and deadlifts?
i compete @148, never get much heavier than 165

gym lifts
535 dead
465 squat
265 bench
1000+ leg press for reps

comp @148
425 squat no knee wraps, previous record...
508 dead, USPA CA state record
1129 total, USPA CA state record
 
Awesome mate. That's really awesome! Especially for 146. Wanted to get a feel for just how much extra strength cycles like this give u. Cheers bro
 
Awesome mate. That's really awesome! Especially for 146. Wanted to get a feel for just how much extra strength cycles like this give u. Cheers bro

to elaborate a bit... i didnt run any cycles until after my first competition where i pulled 479.5 at a bodyweight of like 140...
if i run a 'lighter' cycle i may only gain 10-20 lbs on my main lifts...
with my first tren cycle i made it up to the 535...
last time i ran tren i was working more on my squat then deads...

so it is not the 'be-all end-all', and should not be a substitute for a good training program...
 
i compete @148, never get much heavier than 165

gym lifts
535 dead
465 squat
265 bench
1000+ leg press for reps

comp @148
425 squat no knee wraps, previous record...
508 dead, USPA CA state record
1129 total, USPA CA state record

pretty damn impressive lifts especially for that weight class man...
 
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