First cycle result with pictures! + second cycle advice

[antone000]

Heres my recent transformation over 12 or so months plus one Test E cycle of 500mg/w for 10 weeks. My pct was Nolva Only 40/40/20/20 and i kept pretty much all my mass minus the water. In the pictures i went from 167-197 lbs. Gained 10lbs naturally and the other 20lbs came with the cycle. Overall extremely happy and my lifts literally went through the roof.
Current stats: 5'11 197lbs with approx 12- 13%bf?

Anyway, regarding my second cycle. It was going to be a 12 or 16 week cycle of Test enan at 600mg a week for 16 weeks, and i wanted to either stack it with 300-400mg of Deca OR Tren. Which would be more advisable for a 2nd cycle? Goals would be another 15lbs of lean mass, obviously more if possible.
PCT would be Nolva/Clomid with an AI on hand and HCG if i get atrophy.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank u

 

[raze]

Great work bro! Cant answer you questions on next cycle but well done man.

 

[antone000]

Great work bro! Cant answer you questions on next cycle but well done man.

Thanks bro

 

[Laxfiend]

Heres my recent transformation over 12 or so months plus one Test E cycle of 500mg/w for 10 weeks. My pct was Nolva Only 40/40/20/20 and i kept pretty much all my mass minus the water. In the pictures i went from 167-197 lbs. Gained 10lbs naturally and the other 20lbs came with the cycle. Overall extremely happy and my lifts literally went through the roof.
Current stats: 5'11 197lbs with approx 13%bf?

Anyway, regarding my second cycle. It was going to be a 12 or 16 week cycle of Test enan at 600mg a week for 16 weeks, and i wanted to either stack it with 300-400mg of Deca OR Tren. Which would be more advisable for a 2nd cycle? Goals would be another 15lbs of lean mass, obviously more if possible.
PCT would be Nolva/Clomid with an AI on hand and HCG if i get atrophy.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank u

How long has it been since your first cycle? You need to take breaks after pct befire starting up again. Also, both deca and tren are going to shut you down HARD, so for second I probably wouldbt run either

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[antone000]

How long has it been since your first cycle? You need to take breaks after pct befire starting up again. Also, both deca and tren are going to shut you down HARD, so for second I probably wouldbt run either

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I'm not going to be running it for about 6 months, but after that i'm going to do time on + pct = time off.
What would be advisable for a second cycle?

 

[RADAR]

I'm not going to be running it for about 6 months, but after that i'm going to do time on + pct = time off.
What would be advisable for a second cycle?

test enanthate, and EQ since those pics shows you how much you've gained
Run it for 14 wks

Test 300-500 per wk
EQ 400 min per wk.

 

[antone000]

test enanthate, and EQ since those pics shows you how much you've gained
Run it for 14 wks

Test 300-500 per wk
EQ 400 min per wk.

Thanks bro. Out of curiousity why would EQ be a better choice for a second cycle over Deca or Tren, is it because of the suppression? What kind of gains/effects should i expect from EQ?

Also is my Nolva/Clomid PCT sufficient for the cycle?

 

[RADAR]

Thanks bro. Out of curiousity why would EQ be a better choice for a second cycle over Deca or Tren, is it because of the suppression? What kind of gains/effects should i expect from EQ?

Also is my Nolva/Clomid PCT sufficient for the cycle?

It will be much better for recovery, plus you'll look awsome, save the more harsher ones for later.

 

[antone000]

It will be much better for recovery, plus you'll look awsome, save the more harsher ones for later.

What should i expect from EQ in general because im getting alot of mixed reviews from it eg being a waste to only helping appetite?

 

[rustilldown]

What should i expect from EQ in general because im getting alot of mixed reviews from it eg being a waste to only helping appetite?

Vascularity, endurance, some get increase hunger, wicked pumps , and slow steady keepable gains.

 

[dylangemelli]

test enanthate, and EQ since those pics shows you how much you've gained
Run it for 14 wks

Test 300-500 per wk
EQ 400 min per wk.

This is excellent advice coming from a man who truly knows his shit so definitely listen to him...

One other option would be to use Mast instead of eq... I like both of these because you are getting to get great size and also be able to look like fucking granite man... Its clear to me you were undersized before you started your cycle but your gains are still very impressive... this will just solidify everything...

I would look into running sarms in between your cycles as well... I think they would be of great benefit to you...

nice work...

 

[antone000]

This is excellent advice coming from a man who truly knows his shit so definitely listen to him...

One other option would be to use Mast instead of eq... I like both of these because you are getting to get great size and also be able to look like fucking granite man... Its clear to me you were undersized before you started your cycle but your gains are still very impressive... this will just solidify everything...

I would look into running sarms in between your cycles as well... I think they would be of great benefit to you...

nice work...

Thanksfor the advice bro...i'm reading up on sarms, what would u reccommend?

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanksfor the advice bro...i'm reading up on sarms, what would u reccommend?

for you, definitely a stack of ostarine and s4... if you go to profile, read all my writeups, read my log and check out the sarms question thread i have... after you do a bit of research, let me know and i'll help you get a nice 8 week stack going... you will thank me later! =)

 

[plus44racer182]

I think the EQ idea is a great one. everyone I know running it for summer is loving it over deca/test or tren/test due to hardness vascularity and the lack of nandrolone/prolactin sides. GREAT WORK btw awesome progress and good 1st cycle.

 

[oxymoron]

EQ is awesome and don't let someone tell you it's bunk or not that effective. That is probably the same person that will you tell you after one cycle "screw it, just run tren" when in reality you just don't need to until you stop gaining from quality staple gear. After 3 months (and as long as you work hard) on EQ you will be very happy with the end product.

 

[antone000]

for you, definitely a stack of ostarine and s4... if you go to profile, read all my writeups, read my log and check out the sarms question thread i have... after you do a bit of research, let me know and i'll help you get a nice 8 week stack going... you will thank me later! =)

Thanks for steering me in the right direction boys, will def be hanging around at EF from now on. Ill put together:
Test e 600mg/w for 14 weeks
EQ 400mg/w for 14 weeks
PCT would be Nolva/Clomid

Ill be reading your writeups now dylangermelli

 

[eddymerckx]

test enanthate, and EQ since those pics shows you how much you've gained
Run it for 14 wks

Test 300-500 per wk
EQ 400 min per wk.

my name is eddymerckx and I approve of this message.

I would take equipoise over tren/deca any day--tren is for down the line if/when you plateau (IMHO); deca just sucks from libido and bloating standpoint (I hate the stuff--more soft tissue production w/equipoise over deca anyway).

You made great gains in a reasonable manner--thus keep the doses as RADAR stated and you should see the same sort w/little or no sides at all.

 

[antone000]

my name is eddymerckx and I approve of this message.

I would take equipoise over tren/deca any day--tren is for down the line if/when you plateau (IMHO); deca just sucks from libido and bloating standpoint (I hate the stuff--more soft tissue production w/equipoise over deca anyway).

You made great gains in a reasonable manner--thus keep the doses as RADAR stated and you should see the same sort w/little or no sides at all.

Hows EQ in regards to libido? While i was on test i was loveing it lol sex 3-5 times a day easy with a ton of energy to smash some heavy deads/squats.
People say that about AAS in general that u should use it when u hit a plateu, and 95% of people don't, the same can be said about tren. Regardless i will be using EQ for my second cycle.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Good advice from RADAR ,Eddy and dylan...

Tren should be saved for much further down the road and FYI deca/tren should never have a nolvadex based pct.

well done on your gains, k for posting up the before and after pics.

 

[antone000]

Good advice from RADAR ,Eddy and dylan...

Tren should be saved for much further down the road and FYI deca/tren should never have a nolvadex based pct.

well done on your gains, k for posting up the before and after pics.

Thanks for the k, making a newbie feel blessed lol
Would a clomid/nolva PCT be sufficient for Test/EQ stack?
Recovery was smooth with Nolva only in my first Test cycle