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All of your SARMS1 questions... Ask them here!!

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So, ive been getting a daily inbox full of SARMS questions, so I thought it would be helpful to post this thread and give everyone as much help and advice as possible... I just want to help out everyone as much as possible and give the best advice I possibly can... So ask away!!

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GW 501516, dosage,,,, was wondering if your rats had run this, or running them on this at a later date. I thought I remembered you stateing something about it in a tread before, then again that could just be me living in my own little world again. But thats ok too, they mostly know me there...
 
Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

How long can I run osta?
Is there any new Sarms in development?


As Ostarine is the most anabolic of the available SARMs, its first and formost use must be when trying to gain lean muscle.
Now the gains in absolute weight won’t be comparable to steroids such as diannabol, however what will be gained will almost exclusivley be lean mass. Due to the lack of shutdown in comparison to steroids/prohormones, a PCT period is not needed and almost all the mass that is gained on Ostarine is kept once the cycle is finished.
Doses of 25mg for 4-6 weeks are the most common protocol for such goals. Over this 4-6 week period will typically produce 6lbs or 3kg of lean, keepable gains. However the abundant side effects of steroids/prohormones will not be present.

Users have as high as 36mg [only recommended for those who weigh in at 210lbs (95kg)+] for periods as long as 8 weeks. However the potential for suppression from such doses is higher and users would have to look into a PCT protocol after undergoing such a cycle.


Ostarine would primarily fit into a cutting protocol for the maintainance of muscle mass whilst reducing calories.
One of the most disheartening outcomes of cutting is the loss hard earned muscle mass.
The drop in metabolic rate and hormone levels (T3, IGF, Testosterone etc) with the lack of calories is a perfect catabolic enviroment for loss of muscle tissue.
As Ostarine has anabolic effects, the dieter can cut calories without having to worry about muscle or strength loss.
Ostarine has also shown noticeable nutrient partioining effects among users, another reason why it can be of great help when cutting.

A 12.5-15mg dosing protocol for 4-6 weeks is good for cutting with Ostarine without undergoing any side effects or suppression.
However it must be stated that due to the lack of androgenicity, muscle hardness and overall results are not as prominenant as with the SARM S4.

In my opinion, recomp is where Ostarine really shines.
The recomping effect of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time is what the majority of users are looking for. Trying to achieve this when you are not absolutely new to training is extremely difficult.
Where Ostarine shines for recomping is in its nutrient partioning benefits. Calories are taken from fat stores and calorie intake is fed to the muscle tissue. In fact many users report that Ostarine consumed at maintainace calories produces weight loss, whilst still getting increases in strength and muscle mass!

One of the most important factors of recomping is TIME. As you are trying to achieve multiple objectives, it requires a longer time period to notice good recomp effects so even when running steroids, these would have to be longer run injectible compounds as oppose to the short used liver toxic oral steroids/prohormones.

Although Ostarine is taken orally, as it is not methylated it is not as liver toxic as other oral steroids/prohormones. Therefore it can be run for longer than the standard 4 week period with the aforementioned compounds.

The dosing protocol of 12.5-25mg for 4-8 weeks will give excellent recomp effects.
Diet must also be optimized to where calories are just above maintaninance with at least 30% coming from lean sources of protein to get the best recomp effect.
 
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A good dosage for gw is 10 mg a day... 5 mg in the a.m. and 5 in the p.m.... Yes, we had run this and I must say, the endurance and stamina that came immediately from the usage was tremendous however the goals that were set did not involve losing weight so it was stopped... Depending upon your goals, gw can be very efficient... You can actually dose up to 20 mg a day, but it may become a bit prcey... It is on sale at uniquemicals right now so you should take advantage of it...


GW 501516, dosage,,,, was wondering if your rats had run this, or running them on this at a later date. I thought I remembered you stateing something about it in a tread before, then again that could just be me living in my own little world again. But thats ok too, they mostly know me there...
 
Ok. I have 2 bottles of S-1 and 2 bottles of S-4. How long can this be run and how many bottles of GW should I scoop up, 1 or 2? Can I run them all until they are gone?
 
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A good dosage for gw is 10 mg a day... 5 mg in the a.m. and 5 in the p.m.... Yes, we had run this and I must say, the endurance and stamina that came immediately from the usage was tremendous however the goals that were set did not involve losing weight so it was stopped... Depending upon your goals, gw can be very efficient... You can actually dose up to 20 mg a day, but it may become a bit prcey... It is on sale at uniquemicals right now so you should take advantage of it...


GW should really be ran up at 20mgs IMO......Sarms Search is dropping a 20mg per ML product this month. Only the best will do for me!
 
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im going to assume you go the uniquemicals SARMS so thats what I am basing this on... 2 bottles of S4 dosed at 50 mg a day will last you 8 weeks and 1 bottle of s1 dosed at 25 mg a day should last you 8 weeks... the gw on the other hand will not go very far... 10 mg a day will last you 15 days per bottle... you can't run the s1 for 16 weeks straight bro... =) I think an 8 week stack of these will do you just fine!


Ok. I have 2 bottles of S-1 and 2 bottles of S-4. How long can this be run and how many bottles of GW should I scoop up, 1 or 2? Can I run them all until they are gone?
 
im going to assume you go the uniquemicals SARMS so thats what I am basing this on... 2 bottles of S4 dosed at 50 mg a day will last you 8 weeks and 1 bottle of s1 dosed at 25 mg a day should last you 8 weeks... the gw on the other hand will not go very far... 10 mg a day will last you 15 days per bottle... you can't run the s1 for 16 weeks straight bro... =) I think an 8 week stack of these will do you just fine!

All Unique. So 2 bottles of GW will last me a month. Good enough. I'll have enough S-1/S-4 to last me 8 weeks and a bottle of S-4 for later, I guess. How do you believe that will fair for me? I posted that pic, can you see changes in my future;-)
 
Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

As Ostarine is the most anabolic of the available SARMs, its first and formost use must be when trying to gain lean muscle.
Now the gains in absolute weight won’t be comparable to steroids such as diannabol, however what will be gained will almost exclusivley be lean mass. Due to the lack of shutdown in comparison to steroids/prohormones, a PCT period is not needed and almost all the mass that is gained on Ostarine is kept once the cycle is finished.
Doses of 25mg for 4-6 weeks are the most common protocol for such goals. Over this 4-6 week period will typically produce 6lbs or 3kg of lean, keepable gains. However the abundant side effects of steroids/prohormones will not be present.

Users have as high as 36mg [only recommended for those who weigh in at 210lbs (95kg)+] for periods as long as 8 weeks. However the potential for suppression from such doses is higher and users would have to look into a PCT protocol after undergoing such a cycle.


Ostarine would primarily fit into a cutting protocol for the maintainance of muscle mass whilst reducing calories.
One of the most disheartening outcomes of cutting is the loss hard earned muscle mass.
The drop in metabolic rate and hormone levels (T3, IGF, Testosterone etc) with the lack of calories is a perfect catabolic enviroment for loss of muscle tissue.
As Ostarine has anabolic effects, the dieter can cut calories without having to worry about muscle or strength loss.
Ostarine has also shown noticeable nutrient partioining effects among users, another reason why it can be of great help when cutting.

A 12.5-15mg dosing protocol for 4-6 weeks is good for cutting with Ostarine without undergoing any side effects or suppression.
However it must be stated that due to the lack of androgenicity, muscle hardness and overall results are not as prominenant as with the SARM S4.

In my opinion, recomp is where Ostarine really shines.
The recomping effect of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time is what the majority of users are looking for. Trying to achieve this when you are not absolutely new to training is extremely difficult.
Where Ostarine shines for recomping is in its nutrient partioning benefits. Calories are taken from fat stores and calorie intake is fed to the muscle tissue. In fact many users report that Ostarine consumed at maintainace calories produces weight loss, whilst still getting increases in strength and muscle mass!

One of the most important factors of recomping is TIME. As you are trying to achieve multiple objectives, it requires a longer time period to notice good recomp effects so even when running steroids, these would have to be longer run injectible compounds as oppose to the short used liver toxic oral steroids/prohormones.

Although Ostarine is taken orally, as it is not methylated it is not as liver toxic as other oral steroids/prohormones. Therefore it can be run for longer than the standard 4 week period with the aforementioned compounds.

The dosing protocol of 12.5-25mg for 4-8 weeks will give excellent recomp effects.
Diet must also be optimized to where calories are just above maintaninance with at least 30% coming from lean sources of protein to get the best recomp effect.
i think u may have sold me here....I blast and cruise so after this cycle I think I'll run it with my trt dose of test at 25mg ed which will give me something to look forward to for the summer lol, how are the vision sides?
 
Can you stack ostra and gw with any oral like beast etc.. of course with pct etv. Like regular cycle but with sarm?

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well for mk2866 there are no visions sides at all... on s4, for me personally the vision sides have been very minimal but I eased into it... you can't come out going too high on the dosage... obviously, like anything else, some people get them worse than others... I've been fortunate thus far and hope to keep it that way! =) You will definitely love them though bro...


i think u may have sold me here....I blast and cruise so after this cycle I think I'll run it with my trt dose of test at 25mg ed which will give me something to look forward to for the summer lol, how are the vision sides?
 
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i think it will definitely help you bro... you already have great size so it will harden you up and give you a ton of strength... just do the gw for one month, get a little extra slim down, and then harden it all up the last month with the s4 and osta stack alone... you will have a great run! just don't get crazy with the s4 dosing... ease into it...


All Unique. So 2 bottles of GW will last me a month. Good enough. I'll have enough S-1/S-4 to last me 8 weeks and a bottle of S-4 for later, I guess. How do you believe that will fair for me? I posted that pic, can you see changes in my future;-)
 
i think it will definitely help you bro... you already have great size so it will harden you up and give you a ton of strength... just do the gw for one month, get a little extra slim down, and then harden it all up the last month with the s4 and osta stack alone... you will have a great run! just don't get crazy with the s4 dosing... ease into it...

That's about what I figured. Gonna do exactly as suggested. You're still on the hook though. Gonna hit you up one last tine before I start. We have info to exchange anyhow.
 
So with ostra a pct is needed?

But s-4 no? Is what I heard so whats the difference? Likewise what ever i put my rats on they take off so 12 cycle they take 12 weeks off so I was going to put them on s-4 as soon as their done with the aas cycle and keep them on it until they get back on aas.
 
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How many mg/day and how many weeks should we run GW for a female rat at 5'6 129 lbs ?

Diet is strict calorically controlled Keto. Fasted morning cardio and weight training 6x week. She also uses 40mg S-4 to keep strength and endurance up in the absence of carbs/low cal intake.

We have 2 bottles and want to get the most effective results.
 
How many mg/day and how many weeks should we run GW for a female rat at 5'6 129 lbs ?

Diet is strict calorically controlled Keto. Fasted morning cardio and weight training 6x week. She also uses 40mg S-4 to keep strength and endurance up in the absence of carbs/low cal intake.

We have 2 bottles and want to get the most effective results.

I think carbs would be beneficial.
 
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to get the absolute most out of it, she needs to dose it at 20 mg a day... 10 mg in the morning and 10 in mid to late afternoon... she should run 8 weeks at this dosage... 2 bottles will not get you 8 weeks but 8 weeks will bring the most desired results...


How many mg/day and how many weeks should we run GW for a female rat at 5'6 129 lbs ?

Diet is strict calorically controlled Keto. Fasted morning cardio and weight training 6x week. She also uses 40mg S-4 to keep strength and endurance up in the absence of carbs/low cal intake.

We have 2 bottles and want to get the most effective results.
 
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Perfect, thanks Dylan!!

You look incredible by the way, keep on killin it!
 
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OK I'm totally confused, I got mine from sarmssearch, I have 2 bottles of S-4 @ 100mg/ml & 2 MK-2866'@ 25mg/ml & 1 bottle that just says100mg/ml on it I assume it is S-4 by the dose per ml. PCT is complete, I wanted to wait another 4-8 wks before starting the sarms. I think I read that S-4 was to be taken 5 on 2 off, i dont know the dose is 50mg per day good 2 go? & what about the MK-2866', 7 days a week 12.5-25mg per day? Can you run them both at the same time?

Thanks!
 
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yes, you can and should stack them both... run mk 7 days a week at 25 mg a day... dose it one time in the a.m... DO NOT go over 25 mg a day... for the s4, start at 50 mg a day... you only need to go 5 on and 2 off if you start to have the vision sides... until then, run it 7 days a week as well... you are fine to start it now... i started my stack the day after pct was finished... you will need a mini pct after the stack... i ran the two sarms, hcgenerate, daa, need2slin, lean xtreme and creatine nitrate... my pct is unleashed, daa and a double dose of bridge...
 
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Currently running the same SARMs stack as Dylan (on week 2). N2BM is out of Unleashed, is there something else I could use in its place?
 
Re: All of your SARMS questions... Ask them here!!

Currently running the same SARMs stack as Dylan (on week 2). N2BM is out of Unleashed, is there something else I could use in its place?


you can unleashed at the protein factory right now... if you don't want to do that then go ahead and run the forged pct at ntbm... i prefer unleashed after this cycle though
 
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How long can I run GW 501516? I was doing an 10 week cycle of all 3 sarms. I want to keep using GW because I need it to improve my run times faster. Do I have to cycle off GW like the other two sarms?
 
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How long can I run GW 501516? I was doing an 10 week cycle of all 3 sarms. I want to keep using GW because I need it to improve my run times faster. Do I have to cycle off GW like the other two sarms?


yes, you need to do a 3week mini pct then you can go at it again... you need to cycle off, yes...
 
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So if one did a 10 week Sarms run, you really need a 10 week mini pct afterwards? A mini pct yes, but thought more of 4 weeks.
 
Dylan or anyone,
Whats the shipping times outta Sarmssearch? I thought I read around 3 - 5 days but I can't find the post.

Placed my order yesterday with plans for osta/s4 6 weeker. Pretty damn excited to try it.

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So if one did a 10 week Sarms run, you really need a 10 week mini pct afterwards? A mini pct yes, but thought more of 4 weeks.


LOLL EDIT EDIT EDIT... It was really late last night when I typed that... I meant 3 weeks! Sorry bro... you had to be thinkin "what the fuck" thats not mini... Only 3!
 
LOLL EDIT EDIT EDIT... It was really late last night when I typed that... I meant 3 weeks! Sorry bro... you had to be thinkin "what the fuck" thats not mini... Only 3!

Lol. Totally understand. One more question, I am running a 8 week osta/s4 cycle with a 4 week mini pct. loving it do far. Should I take 12 weeks off after pct before looking to do another mild cycle (maybe another sarms run or non-methyl run)?
 
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it depends on when your last ph or aas cycle was... if your just doing sarms again then you can run them again after the mini
 
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What type of benefits can expected from Osta or S4 in regards to endurance training? I see that Dylan has a crazy cardio schedule and I'm curious if it's improved from the sarms. As a lot of us have found out the hard way when you're on most compounds it screws your ability to log in good milage running or cycling as the pumps are brutal.
 
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What type of benefits can expected from Osta or S4 in regards to endurance training? I see that Dylan has a crazy cardio schedule and I'm curious if it's improved from the sarms. As a lot of us have found out the hard way when you're on most compounds it screws your ability to log in good milage running or cycling as the pumps are brutal.

i can tell you first hand that it won't have a negative effect on your endurance training... my cardio has definitely improved on sarms... it was great on helladrol and great through pct but i have noticed an increase in my endurance on sarms... not a huge increase but a definite increase... it will definitely not inhibit you in any way, i can assure you that bro... there is no side effects in that regards at all...
 
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Ok my turn :-)

So i completed my 6 week hella and kata cycle and completed my pct officially yesterday. I want a bridging cycle until i do a beast/kata/transderm cycle for 4-6 weeks in about 10-12 weeks time.

In the meantime what products do u recommend, at wat dosage and where to buy from. I want to gain lean muscle while losing some fat.

What sides will i experience and will i need pct? Im guessing these are non injectibles?

How good will the cycle of sarms u recommend be?

Thanks bro. Got no experience with sarms but i do have a good idea about phs.
 
I'm getting a 30ml bottle of S4 from uniquemicals. How should I run it? I'm a 21 year old male. I have done an epistrong cycle and a beastdrol cycle in the past (I know I was young probably shouldn't have) I have gotten bloods after the beast cycle and everything is good.
I'm not planning on doing it right away as a new semester is starting in college. I bought a bottle because of that super sale
Stats
21
5'11, 190, 10% bf
Been lifting 3 years, 2 years of good diet.
I was thinking of running it 25mg ED with another 25mg on lifting days prior to training (5days a week). I was hoping this might prevent having the vision sides that I have heard of.
Also what would be a good PCT and what supps would you recomend on cycle?
I currently take fish oils and creatine and a stimulant preworkout.
I'm looking to gain some lean muscle and maybe lose a bit of body fat.

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Ok my turn :-)

So i completed my 6 week hella and kata cycle and completed my pct officially yesterday. I want a bridging cycle until i do a beast/kata/transderm cycle for 4-6 weeks in about 10-12 weeks time.

In the meantime what products do u recommend, at wat dosage and where to buy from. I want to gain lean muscle while losing some fat.

What sides will i experience and will i need pct? Im guessing these are non injectibles?

How good will the cycle of sarms u recommend be?

Thanks bro. Got no experience with sarms but i do have a good idea about phs.

hey bro... well FIRST OFF, and this is out of order with your questions, but the question that jumps out to me the most was "how good will they cycle of sarms u recommend be?" Bro, I only recommend the BEST cycle possible, so the cycle I recommend to you will be the fucking shit bro... =) that being said, here is what I recommend...

8 week cycle, stack of sarms mk2866 (ostarine) and s4...
mk - 25 mg a day, once a day... never dose any higher than this... dose it in the a.m.
s4 - start at 50 mg a day, 25 mg splits, a.m. and early afternoon... run it 7 days a week and assess your tolerance for two weeks unless you have visions sides earlier (which I don't anticipate) but it is possible... after two weeks, if you don't have any issues, bump to 60 mg if you feel comfortable with that and then assess from there... i am going on my last week of an 8 week cycle and up to 100 mg a day but i have been lucky to not have any sides... i have seen people get them at 50 and have also seen none at all... you just have to go by trial and error...

i also recommend running hcgenerate, daa, need2slin, lean xtreme and creatine nitrate alongside the sarms stack...

yes they are non injectibles... dosing only requires an oral syringe...

3 week mini pct consisting of unleashed, forged pct and bridge should do the trick...
 
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I'm getting a 30ml bottle of S4 from uniquemicals. How should I run it? I'm a 21 year old male. I have done an epistrong cycle and a beastdrol cycle in the past (I know I was young probably shouldn't have) I have gotten bloods after the beast cycle and everything is good.
I'm not planning on doing it right away as a new semester is starting in college. I bought a bottle because of that super sale
Stats
21
5'11, 190, 10% bf
Been lifting 3 years, 2 years of good diet.
I was thinking of running it 25mg ED with another 25mg on lifting days prior to training (5days a week). I was hoping this might prevent having the vision sides that I have heard of.
Also what would be a good PCT and what supps would you recomend on cycle?
I currently take fish oils and creatine and a stimulant preworkout.
I'm looking to gain some lean muscle and maybe lose a bit of body fat.

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see the cycle that i just wrote out above... you do not need to do 5 on and 2 off unless you see visions issues, which normally you don't on only 50 mg... it is possible but highly doubtful... assess your tolerance with 50 and go from there but you can go 7 days a week until you start to see an issue... i would stack it with ostarine though to get max benefit... you can run it as a stand alone but it is so much more effective ran with its counterpart (ostarine)... take a look at the cycle i just wrote out above and also take a look at my log... you can get so much off of this cycle if it is ran properly... and btw, you ran your previous cycles too young and i am glad you understand that now... you technically are still a bit young but since you have the experience already there's not much to do about it... if i was you, i would stick to more natty products for another year or two... sarms are not like a ph so it will be better for you.... wait until you have the entire stack bought to start though...
 
Thanks for the advice!
I've last question what do you think about running forma stanzol during or as part of the pct?

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hey bro... well FIRST OFF, and this is out of order with your questions, but the question that jumps out to me the most was "how good will they cycle of sarms u recommend be?" Bro, I only recommend the BEST cycle possible, so the cycle I recommend to you will be the fucking shit bro... =) that being said, here is what I recommend...

8 week cycle, stack of sarms mk2866 (ostarine) and s4...
mk - 25 mg a day, once a day... never dose any higher than this... dose it in the a.m.
s4 - start at 50 mg a day, 25 mg splits, a.m. and early afternoon... run it 7 days a week and assess your tolerance for two weeks unless you have visions sides earlier (which I don't anticipate) but it is possible... after two weeks, if you don't have any issues, bump to 60 mg if you feel comfortable with that and then assess from there... i am going on my last week of an 8 week cycle and up to 100 mg a day but i have been lucky to not have any sides... i have seen people get them at 50 and have also seen none at all... you just have to go by trial and error...

i also recommend running hcgenerate, daa, need2slin, lean xtreme and creatine nitrate alongside the sarms stack...

yes they are non injectibles... dosing only requires an oral syringe...

3 week mini pct consisting of unleashed, forged pct and bridge should do the trick...

Bro where to i get the sarms from?

Also if i do get vision sides at 50mg, do i lower my dose or stop altogether?

How will ur cycle u listed be compared to my last hella/kata cycle?

After the 8 week cycle and mini pct u listed, can i go straight into my beast/kata/transderm cycle for 4-6 weeks?

Sorry for the questions bro, i appeciate ur help big time!
 
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Thanks for the advice!
I've last question what do you think about running forma stanzol during or as part of the pct?

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yes you could run it either way and it would be a nice addition actually...
 
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Bro where to i get the sarms from?

Also if i do get vision sides at 50mg, do i lower my dose or stop altogether?

How will ur cycle u listed be compared to my last hella/kata cycle?

After the 8 week cycle and mini pct u listed, can i go straight into my beast/kata/transderm cycle for 4-6 weeks?

Sorry for the questions bro, i appeciate ur help big time!

get your sarms at uniquemicals.com bro...

if you start to get vision sides, first you would taper it to 5 days on and then 2 days off... you should be okay that way... if it persists after that, let me know and i will advise...

if you have had proper rest from your last cycle by the time your pct is over then you can... that is what i am doing after my mini pct...
 
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Would one bottle of MK and 2 bottles of S4 be enough to run an 8 week cycle?
 
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one bottle of mk should last you right about 8 weeks if you dose it at 25 mg... for me 2 bottles is not even close to enough for s4 but if you keep it at 50 mg it will be... for the price of the s4 right now, i would stock up on it...
 
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one bottle of mk should last you right about 8 weeks if you dose it at 25 mg... for me 2 bottles is not even close to enough for s4 but if you keep it at 50 mg it will be... for the price of the s4 right now, i would stock up on it...

That seems like it'd be a good idea. And I was planning on running S4 at 50mg per day for a first SARMs cycle maybe talking it to 60mg just to see if I get any vision sides. If not I'd definitely run it at a higher dose in a future cycle.

Thanks, for your advice, been following your logs. Great work man!
 
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That seems like it'd be a good idea. And I was planning on running S4 at 50mg per day for a first SARMs cycle maybe talking it to 60mg just to see if I get any vision sides. If not I'd definitely run it at a higher dose in a future cycle.

Thanks, for your advice, been following your logs. Great work man!


thanks bro... if you need anything else along the way, let me know!
 
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For all of you who are doing SARM in your PCT, keep in mind that SARMs DOES shut you down when applied in higher doses (higher as in above 3mg ed).

I wouldn't recommend higher doses of SARM in PCT!
 
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SARMs in PCT



One of the most recent popular uses of SARMs has been during the critical PCT period following a cycle of anabolic steroids or pro hormones.
To see why, lets look at what happens after a cylcle and suring the PCT period:
Shutdown

When taking an anabolic androgenic compund, whether it be steroids or prohormones, the bodies own natural produciton of hormones are affected.
The bodies detects an abundance of androgens, hence signals the hypothalamus to decrease GnRH excretion. This in turn results in the pituatary gland to lower LH and FSH production which in turn signals the leydig cells in the testes to stop producing testosterone.


This negative feedback loop is the reason why testicular atrophy or shrinkage of the testes occurs on cycle.
The Role of PCT – Post Cycle Therapy

The objective of a PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) is to quickly get the body to normalize its prodcution of the above hormones, and hence signal your body to resume testosterone production.


The most common and effective compounds used to accomplish this are the SERMs (selective estrogen receptor modulators) Nolva (tamoxifen citrate) and Clomid (Clomiphene citrate).
Nolva and Clomid are used immediately following a cycle to get the body back to homeostasis (normal hormone levels) at a faster rate.
However even with Nolva/Clomid use, there is still a delay period for hormone levels to rach their normal levels. It is in this delay period where the loss of muscle and loss of strength gains occurs in PCT.

Ostarine in PCT

This is where an anabolic SARM like Ostarine offers it benefits. As Ostarine selectivley binds to the androgen receptor in muscle and bone, it continues activation of the androgen receptor while Nolva and Clomid are bringing the natural testosterone production back to normal.


As a result of this continued activation in the muscle, the loss of muscle mass and strength in PCT is minimized and most users even report an increase in strength from the numbers they were pushing on cycle!!
Food Intake

Another very important factor in PCT is CALORIES. As mentioned previously, the endocrine system is not at optimal function following a cycle.
The body strives for homeostasis and after a cycle is in a state quite often where it has gained an amount of mass that it is not used to.
In order to keep hold of this (particulraly when in a less than optimal hormonal enviroment), the Calorie consumption must be at or greater than was present whilst on cycle.
Even knowing this, users can be hesitant to consume so many calories due to no longer being on cycle and the resultant fat gain that may come with the high calories.
The anabolic and nutrient partioning effects of Ostarine allows the user to keep up their calories during PCT without the resultant fat gain.


But isnt Ostarine Suppresive?

Ostarine was designed to illicit minimal suppression to the body’s own testosterone levels. However bloodwork from a few users has shown that at higher doses of 25mg+ Ostarine can cause some slight suppression.
Therefore it wouldn’t be wise to use Ostarine at these doses as your SOLE form of PCT.
However when using Ostarine in conjuction with a SERM like Nolva (tamoxifen) or Clomid (Clomiphene), the theory is that the agonism of the pituitary and hypothalamus from Nolva/Clomid would offset any possible suppression from the Ostarine.

Hence Nolva and Clomid will help to get your endogenous testosterone levels back to mornal, whilst the Ostarine will still offer the benefits of androgen receptor activity.

Dosing protocol for PCT

The most common dosing protocol seems to be front load followed by a lower dose for the remainder of the PCT period. A typical dosing protocol is as follows:
25mg for the first 1-2 weeks of PCT followed by 12.5-15mg for the reminder of your PCT (4-5 weeks).
As the half life of Ostarine is circa 24 hours, the dose only needs to be taken once a day.
The frontload at a higher dose for the first 1-2 weeks is recommended as blood levels of Nolva/Clomid and their resultant actions are not immediate. Whilst natural hormone levels are still low at the begining of the PCT period, the higher dose of Ostarine will offer greater muscle tissue androgen receptor activation in the absence of endogenous hormones.
Of course, if you are still concerned about possible suppression even whilst taking a SERM, a 10-12.5mg throughout your PCT period will offer the benefits of androgen receptor agonism whilst having almost no suppressive effects.
Some users advocate extending this even further whist tapering the dose, so tapering the does down to 5mg from weeks 5-8.

Therefore in conclusion, although SARMs at higher doses may cause slight suppression, the concurrent use of selective estrogen receptor modulators such as Nolva/Clomid offsets this. Hence SARM use, in particular Ostarine with its lack of Androgenic effects is a great option for maintenance and even increase in gains and performance following a cycle of anabolic steroids/pro hormones.
 
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A friend of mine did a 12w cycle with Ostarine at 20mg ed.

Before his cycle his Testosterone was at 19,7 (should be between 10 - 30), 12 weeks later, it was at 4,7.

No alcohol nor drugs or other pharmaceutical that could have affected the results.
 
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Hang on for sounding blonde but 1 bottle of MK and 2 bottles of S-4 is enough for 8 week cycle? But the bottles are only 30ml each... :s
 
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A friend of mine did a 12w cycle with Ostarine at 20mg ed.

Before his cycle his Testosterone was at 19,7 (should be between 10 - 30), 12 weeks later, it was at 4,7.

No alcohol nor drugs or other pharmaceutical that could have affected the results.

that does make sense because typically 6-8 weeks is the max to run it bro... 12 weeks will cause some suppression... that's too long of a cycle, so that is why this occurred... he didn't do his homework to be more preventative... he also should have been running hcgenerate alongside of it during the cycle...
 
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Hang on for sounding blonde but 1 bottle of MK and 2 bottles of S-4 is enough for 8 week cycle? But the bottles are only 30ml each... :s

the osta is 30 ML/50 mg ML which means that should last 60 days... each ml has 50 mg so if you are dosing 25 mg you are getting 2 days per each ML... 30 x 2 = 60... the s4 is 50 mg ML which means if you are dosing 50 MG a day you are getting 1 ML a day... = 30 days...
 
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the osta is 30 ML/50 mg ML which means that should last 60 days... each ml has 50 mg so if you are dosing 25 mg you are getting 2 days per each ML... 30 x 2 = 60... the s4 is 50 mg ML which means if you are dosing 50 MG a day you are getting 1 ML a day... = 30 days...


Your a legend bro.

Thanks heaps!!
 
Ok im sorry if this question has been asked before, but i gotta get an answer... Ive read that sarms can permanently alter genes/vision! Is this true? I just started s4 at 50mg/day,,but this gene altering idea has me freaked out! Your thoughts?? Thx!

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Anyone know when Uniquemicals is getting their ostarine back in stock? I feel like I've been waiting forever..
 
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Ok im sorry if this question has been asked before, but i gotta get an answer... Ive read that sarms can permanently alter genes/vision! Is this true? I just started s4 at 50mg/day,,but this gene altering idea has me freaked out! Your thoughts?? Thx!

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s4 can bind to the receptor in the eye, which can cause a night vision issue... if this does occur, more often, it occurs later in the cycle and at higher doses... a common protocol to combat this is to go 5 days on and 2 days off or just keep the dosing lower... everyone gets affected differently... i have been a lucky one without having to deal with this side... some people get affected and some don't... you just have to be aware of it and handle it accordingly if need be!
 
Ok thx bro! I can deal with vision sides,,i just wanted to make sure the sides arent permanent! It sounds like the vision sides always reside after the cycle tho, so its cool. Thanks!

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Ok thx bro! I can deal with vision sides,,i just wanted to make sure the sides arent permanent! It sounds like the vision sides always reside after the cycle tho, so its cool. Thanks!

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just follow the protocol i laid out for you and you will be good to go!
 
Would it be suitable to run albuterol along with ostarine and s-4? Iv read many conflicting views and id like to know from a more expert at sarms the answer with perhaps a reasoning. Not that i wouldn't trust a strait answer either :)

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you can throw in a Stimulant or thermogenic or even both to reach your results.. I suggest a combination of Albuterol and cytomel as a very potent combination for fat loss, and when combined with the fat loss enhancing effects of the SARM's you get dramatic body recompositioning.
OTC stimulants can also be used and thermogenics, look for products that increase cAMP expression (Cyclic adenosine monosphosphate) As this will enable your fat burning hormones like Glucagon which works only on stored fat to be at optimal levels, As calories are likely to be lowered quite dramatically i suggest using creatine to help hold onto muscle and keep performance up, and the use of bcaas, between 5-10 g between meals to help keep catabolism at bay.
 
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How's recovery been on all the three? Do SARMS make recovery times better as with other anabolic compounds?

I'm particularlly curious about GW501516. If you're able to push your body further with the increased endurance/stamina, should you go easy after extended works and allow for a little more recovery time.... at least in the beginning. I'm doing a split that doesn't give much rest on the legs.

Day 1 - 5to6 mi Run, Chest
Day 2 - 3to4 mi Run, Back, Post workout HIIT
Day 3 - x-train, Shoulders
Day 4 - 4to5 mi Run, Abs/Core, Legs
Day 5 - rest or recreational or light x-train

I'm looking at the triple stack (S-4 25mg/am 25mg/pm; Osta 25mg/am; GW 5mg/am 5mg/pm) and the above schedule gives your legs only 1 day off. When I get going I tend to push it hard and I don't want to jack myself up and I've had problem knees (that haven't bothered me in years) and a recent round of IT Band syndrome (that appears to be gone). Anywho, thanks for your help!
 
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How's recovery been on all the three? Do SARMS make recovery times better as with other anabolic compounds?

I'm particularlly curious about GW501516. If you're able to push your body further with the increased endurance/stamina, should you go easy after extended works and allow for a little more recovery time.... at least in the beginning. I'm doing a split that doesn't give much rest on the legs.

Day 1 - 5to6 mi Run, Chest
Day 2 - 3to4 mi Run, Back, Post workout HIIT
Day 3 - x-train, Shoulders
Day 4 - 4to5 mi Run, Abs/Core, Legs
Day 5 - rest or recreational or light x-train

I'm looking at the triple stack (S-4 25mg/am 25mg/pm; Osta 25mg/am; GW 5mg/am 5mg/pm) and the above schedule gives your legs only 1 day off. When I get going I tend to push it hard and I don't want to jack myself up and I've had problem knees (that haven't bothered me in years) and a recent round of IT Band syndrome (that appears to be gone). Anywho, thanks for your help!


you have your dosings laid out properly... i would recommend an 8 week stack... keep in mind, if you run it 8 weeks, you will need a mini pct... i would definitely run hcgenerate alongside the stack... i used hcgenerate and daa with mine... understand that gw will probably drop some weight as well, so if you don't want to lose weight then i would think twice about it... your endurance on it will be awesome and you will notice it right away... 10 mg is pretty moderate dosing... if you can afford it, 20 mg is the optimal dosing...
 
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How's recovery been on all the three? Do SARMS make recovery times better as with other anabolic compounds?

I'm particularlly curious about GW501516. If you're able to push your body further with the increased endurance/stamina, should you go easy after extended works and allow for a little more recovery time.... at least in the beginning. I'm doing a split that doesn't give much rest on the legs.

Day 1 - 5to6 mi Run, Chest
Day 2 - 3to4 mi Run, Back, Post workout HIIT
Day 3 - x-train, Shoulders
Day 4 - 4to5 mi Run, Abs/Core, Legs
Day 5 - rest or recreational or light x-train

I'm looking at the triple stack (S-4 25mg/am 25mg/pm; Osta 25mg/am; GW 5mg/am 5mg/pm) and the above schedule gives your legs only 1 day off. When I get going I tend to push it hard and I don't want to jack myself up and I've had problem knees (that haven't bothered me in years) and a recent round of IT Band syndrome (that appears to be gone). Anywho, thanks for your help!

I also forgot something... are you running outside or on a treadmill and what shoes are you using for your runs?
 
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I alternate shoes. I'm mainly on Nike Vomero 5's but I have a pair Glycerins that I run in as well. Love the vomeros though, like running on sponges. Funny timing, i got a call from a friend an hourago needing a partner in a marathon relay (beach to bay) coming up in 6 weeks so timing is goooood for this. My leg of the race would be 6.8 mi but it's late as hell in day so it'll be mid 90-ish degrees during the run which'll suck ass.
So you think bump the GW to 20? Saw your stack but dang is this not turning into a $500+ session. I'm all in it looks like. I was gonna go 6 weeks but if you think 8 is optimal I'm go up the stock pile to get the extra 2 weeks. Pretty f*cking excited actually!

I do the treadmill when I run after work so I can watch the news but if I hit it in the AM I go outside and run the coastline. I'd say im 75% on the treadmill because I just zone out on the news or some bullshit like wheel of fortune and look down and it's been 40 min.
 
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yes 20 mg a day is optimal... i know its expensive but especially for your marathon you want to get the right dosing... trust me when i tell you, there's good reason why they don't want endurance athletes taking this shit man... you will see when you take it! =) I know that high degree of weather makes the run like your running with tnesion the whole way... it sucks but you can push through it... 8 weeks is optimal... i don't think you need to run gw for 8 weeks though... i would do 4 weeks of gw and do your full 8 of osta and s4...

i use asics gel nimbus... i have found those be the absolute best running shoe... if you haven't tried them, give them a look sometime, i think you will notice a big difference... try to run on a treadmill as much as possible to help with your knee pain... i live in hawaii bro and i absolutely love to run the coast but you have to be preventative in terms of your body and running outside and on concrete is so brutal on your body... i turn on espn and just rock it... good luck on your race bro... if you need any help along the way, let me know...
 
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I'm going for recomp but thats if I can pull it off. Priority would be leaning out,and maintenance of what i've got 2nd. Gains in muscle would be an added bonus.
I'll track my results and take some pics.

Nimbus is solid shoe The right shoe is key to making the most of good runs. I ran on a new balance for years and switched to the vomeros an i swear i added a mile to distance. They're like running on pillows.

So say i'm doing 15 mi a week and then I go on GW and magically doin 20+ miles. Should i let myself recover an extra half day or so as the i'm pushing my legs harder even though they dont know it because of the GW501516? Or does the GW assist with recover parallel to the gains? I just hate to injury my f'ing joints or something because of the up'd endurance.
 
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I'm going for recomp but thats if I can pull it off. Priority would be leaning out,and maintenance of what i've got 2nd. Gains in muscle would be an added bonus.
I'll track my results and take some pics.

Nimbus is solid shoe The right shoe is key to making the most of good runs. I ran on a new balance for years and switched to the vomeros an i swear i added a mile to distance. They're like running on pillows.

So say i'm doing 15 mi a week and then I go on GW and magically doin 20+ miles. Should i let myself recover an extra half day or so as the i'm pushing my legs harder even though they dont know it because of the GW501516? Or does the GW assist with recover parallel to the gains? I just hate to injury my f'ing joints or something because of the up'd endurance.

it really just depends on what your running on... if your running outdoors i would get a little extra rest... 5 miles is quite a bit addition... you know if you go 15 to 16, no big deal, your good to go, but that big of an increase, it really depends on how you feel overall... ostarine has healing traits in it, so if your stacking that with it, that may help somewhat but thats not it main purpose... you may want to check out the skeletal balm at ntbm as well... you have to listen to your body... i normally run 7 days a week but i have been mixing in more stairclimber and elliptical and jump ropes etc to allow full recovery...

i can't run in fucking nikes because of the narrowness of the shoe... asics fit me perfect and the right shoe is key to running and replacing with new ones when the time is right as well...

when are you going to run gw?
 
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LOLL EDIT EDIT EDIT... It was really late last night when I typed that... I meant 3 weeks! Sorry bro... you had to be thinkin "what the fuck" thats not mini... Only 3!

What about the S-4 and Osta, how long off for these two? In a rush, I apologize if this has already been asnwered.

you loo great Dylan!
 
What about the S-4 and Osta, how long off for these two? In a rush, I apologize if this has already been asnwered.

you loo great Dylan!

IMO after a decent run of the two, I would PCT, then take at least 6-8 weeks off before running anything hormonal again which would include SARMS....but you may here a variety of opinions on this
 
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when are you going to run gw?


I ordered last week from uniquemicals but it's on backorder. I pm'd Mich and he said they got it in on Apr 6 so I'm just waiting on them to mail it. I've got everything else in hand including the S-4 and Osta which I got at sarmssearch. I guess I could go ahead and start the S-4 and Osta though huh? Staggering in one of the compounds a week later probably isn't a bad actually.
 
One more question. If my rats are on week 2 with s-4 (25 am 25pm), and mk (25 am) could i add gw (5 am 5pm) from weeks 2-8 and katana 2-8 with pyramid for katana starting at 350. Im also 240 so would bumping mk to 35 be smart as well? I know from your posts suppression will happen so ill run your mini pct and continue with sups Im on as well. Thanks again!!

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What about the S-4 and Osta, how long off for these two? In a rush, I apologize if this has already been asnwered.

you loo great Dylan!


like rick said, you will get differing opinions... after a three week mini pct you can run them again... you should get blood work done just to make sure, but if that comes back okay, you can run again but its better to be safe so you may want to take a bit more time... recovery on sarms is not like a ph or aas... you only need about 3 weeks...
 
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I ordered last week from uniquemicals but it's on backorder. I pm'd Mich and he said they got it in on Apr 6 so I'm just waiting on them to mail it. I've got everything else in hand including the S-4 and Osta which I got at sarmssearch. I guess I could go ahead and start the S-4 and Osta though huh? Staggering in one of the compounds a week later probably isn't a bad actually.


no a stagger start will be great actually... go ahead and get started on s4 and osta now and then stagger in gw...
 
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One more question. If my rats are on week 2 with s-4 (25 am 25pm), and mk (25 am) could i add gw (5 am 5pm) from weeks 2-8 and katana 2-8 with pyramid for katana starting at 350. Im also 240 so would bumping mk to 35 be smart as well? I know from your posts suppression will happen so ill run your mini pct and continue with sups Im on as well. Thanks again!!

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DO NOT exceed 25 mg of osta... all that will do is cause you problems... 25 mg is the max you ever need to run on it period...

if you have not recently ran any ph cycles, you absolutely can add katana... run it like this... 350/350/400/400/450/450... yes you can add gw as well... 5 and 5 is good but if you can afford to run it 10 and 10, that would produce more benefit!
 
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So, ive been getting a daily inbox full of SARMS questions, so I thought it would be helpful to post this thread and give everyone as much help and advice as possible... I just want to help out everyone as much as possible and give the best advice I possibly can... So ask away!!

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im new to this site,but not to bodybuilding.im coming back from hand sugery .havent lifted in 6 months.my supply of gear dried up with my down time.just looking for a reliable gear source .will answer any questions you ask.im 31 5,9 200.looking to get back where i was at 235.thank you for your time.
 
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im new to this site,but not to bodybuilding.im coming back from hand sugery .havent lifted in 6 months.my supply of gear dried up with my down time.just looking for a reliable gear source .will answer any questions you ask.im 31 5,9 200.looking to get back where i was at 235.thank you for your time.


rule #1 on this site man is not talking about sources... please read the rules before making anymore posts...
 
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Question here:

Going to run 8 weeks of S-4 from Unique and want to clarify regarding PCT. As S-4 is only mildly suppressive, can I get away with not running any other product until PCT. What I mean is, instead of running HCGenerate during the cycle, can I just jump on HCGenerate right after and run it for 30 days?

That would be ideal.
 
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Question here:

Going to run 8 weeks of S-4 from Unique and want to clarify regarding PCT. As S-4 is only mildly suppressive, can I get away with not running any other product until PCT. What I mean is, instead of running HCGenerate during the cycle, can I just jump on HCGenerate right after and run it for 30 days?

That would be ideal.

you could do that but i don't really recommend it bro... i would much rather be on the safer and preventative side... your right, its only mildly suppressive but i would rather not have any suppression at all... you could just run it for the first 30 days and then wait again until pct but i would use it for at least a portion of it...
 
you could do that but i don't really recommend it bro... i would much rather be on the safer and preventative side... your right, its only mildly suppressive but i would rather not have any suppression at all... you could just run it for the first 30 days and then wait again until pct but i would use it for at least a portion of it...

I'll run HCGenerate the last four weeks, starting on the fifth and then run Forged Post Cycle immediately after. Will that cover the bases?
 
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i would run unleashed and forged together in your pct... that will cover it... im running bridge too but thats up to you...
 
Hi Dylan. Hows it goin? My question is: I have two bottles of s4 and two bottles of gw. I am commin up to pct soon on my test diesel cycle. Now i was wondering if I could incorporate either of these into pct to solidify gains. I notice alot of people use osta in pct, but sadly this are the only sarms I got. Will gw help maintain gains whilst dropping BF?? Will s4 be to suppressive??
If neither is suitable let me no.
Thanks for your time.
P.S your sarms log is brilliant. Keep it up bro. :):):)
 
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Hi Dylan. Hows it goin? My question is: I have two bottles of s4 and two bottles of gw. I am commin up to pct soon on my test diesel cycle. Now i was wondering if I could incorporate either of these into pct to solidify gains. I notice alot of people use osta in pct, but sadly this are the only sarms I got. Will gw help maintain gains whilst dropping BF?? Will s4 be to suppressive??
If neither is suitable let me no.
Thanks for your time.
P.S your sarms log is brilliant. Keep it up bro. :):):)

thank you for the kind words bro.... so s4 is a no for pct as you have probably seen me post before... i personally would not use gw in pct either... its not going to help you solidify gains, its going to cut weight, flat out... so its not going to be something i recommend unless you are trying to lose weight... save these for after pct... osta is the one for pct bro... i know you don't have any but i would try to get some... it really helps to solidify your gains and it will add to your strength...
 
thank you for the kind words bro.... so s4 is a no for pct as you have probably seen me post before... i personally would not use gw in pct either... its not going to help you solidify gains, its going to cut weight, flat out... so its not going to be something i recommend unless you are trying to lose weight... save these for after pct... osta is the one for pct bro... i know you don't have any but i would try to get some... it really helps to solidify your gains and it will add to your strength...

Ok. Cool. Thanks man. :)
 
Yes i have heard of it but i personally have not used it... Theres not a ton of info on it and im not one to be a guinea pig for something that doesnt have a decent amount of info...

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Is there anything significantly negative about Osta? I can't really find jack. There's a possible increase in red blood cells above normal levels and a potential to decrease HDL. And I guess there's suppression at high prolonged doses. Has there been any other negative findings? Why can't you run it at 50mg? Dylan, I'm guessing you've experimented with up to 50mg? Or have you read studies showing negatives at those doses?
 
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Is there anything significantly negative about Osta? I can't really find jack. There's a possible increase in red blood cells above normal levels and a potential to decrease HDL. And I guess there's suppression at high prolonged doses. Has there been any other negative findings? Why can't you run it at 50mg? Dylan, I'm guessing you've experimented with up to 50mg? Or have you read studies showing negatives at those doses?

i have never dosed over 25 mg bro and never would... sarms a bit different in terms of dosings... there's sweet spots on them but if you surpass those sweet spots there are not benefits, just chance of problems... 25 mg is the definite sweet spot... I have seen people get gyno and have serious supression by running it at 50 mg for prolonged periods of time bro... there is no reason to ever go over 25 mg... staying at 25 is safe and you can get up to 7 lbs. of lean body mass following this protocol... if you stack it with s4 its more likely to be 4-5 lbs. but it will be such an awesome physique... hard as a rock muscles... vascularity... huge strength... 8 -12 weeks bro... dosed properly... you will be very happy!!
 
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