Newbies to steriod cycling, must read this!!

[Tripp_Adems]

First of all, you should not consider steroids if you have not been working out seriously for two consecutive straight years and/ or are under the age of 22! you should also have a specific diet dialled in and feel that you are at the peak of your game before touching AAS!!

If you are looking at a cycle start with Testosterone only, do not stack multiple substances together as a first or second time as you have to find out how your body reacts to the variations in substances.

I would recommend Testosterone Enanthate this is a twice a week injection Mon/ Fri of 150mg each so 300mg every week for 10 weeks and see how your body reacts for a first cycle before even considering to up the dose. This simple cycle should provide an average user of anywhere between 3-6kg or 6-13 pounds of nice body mass (note Test E will make you retain some water weight).

Example:
Testosterone bottle is 300mg per ml therefore you draw up half a ml in the syringe which equates to your 150mg. You use a 19Gauge needle to draw it up, take that off and put on a 23Gauge, That is to go in the top outer quarter of your glute SpotInjections. com swab the area with an alcohol swab then inject, when the needle is all the way in you have to aspirate (draw back on the syringe pump slightly to be sure there is no blood coming back in the syringe) once you have aspirated you are right to put in a quarter of the test, wait about 40 seconds if you don't feel light headed then you haven't collapsed a vein and you are right to inject the rest! Withdraw the needle, put on the protective cover and put it in a sharps container. Get a cotton ball and rub around the injection sight for about 30 seconds to spread out the testosterone (my favourite part) Then put a band aid over where you just injected and try leaving this bandaid on for a day or so.

I hope you understand this as I tried to go into as much detail as I could to help you out and explain the little things that I never had anyone explain to me for my first time.

please note that after a cycle you have to have adequate PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) for an example if you were to do the above cycle I would highly recommend taking from week 12-16 PES Erase 3caps a day, Unleashed 2caps a day and Letrozone. There are many variances to PCT and there are many opinionated individuals out there recommending their way is best however the results vary greatly from individual to individual.

here is some reading material for you:
STEROIDS - Evolutionary.org
Evolutionary.org Forums

 

[The Alpha...]

I think thats the best advice u can give a newb! Like I said, they're gonna do it, they don't come here asking for permission. They want guidance, direction and recommendation under the understanding that they are doing it regardless of what u tell them. Least we can do is to give em that much. It's better than them learning thru mistakes and bs like I did!

 

[Robbo1980]

First of all, you should not consider steroids if you have not been working out seriously for two consecutive straight years and/ or are under the age of 22! you should also have a specific diet dialled in and feel that you are at the peak of your game before touching AAS!!

If you are looking at a cycle start with Testosterone only, do not stack multiple substances together as a first or second time as you have to find out how your body reacts to the variations in substances.

I would recommend Testosterone Enanthate this is a twice a week injection Mon/ Fri of 150mg each so 300mg every week for 10 weeks and see how your body reacts for a first cycle before even considering to up the dose. This simple cycle should provide an average user of anywhere between 3-6kg or 6-13 pounds of nice body mass (note Test E will make you retain some water weight).

Example:
Testosterone bottle is 300mg per ml therefore you draw up half a ml in the syringe which equates to your 150mg. You use a 19Gauge needle to draw it up, take that off and put on a 23Gauge, That is to go in the top outer quarter of your glute ( SpotInjections.com ) swab the area with an alcohol swab then inject, when the needle is all the way in you have to aspirate (draw back on the syringe pump slightly to be sure there is no blood coming back in the syringe) once you have aspirated you are right to put in a quarter of the test, wait about 40 seconds if you don't feel light headed then you haven't collapsed a vein and you are right to inject the rest! Withdraw the needle, put on the protective cover and put it in a sharps container. Get a cotton ball and rub around the injection sight for about 30 seconds to spread out the testosterone (my favourite part) Then put a band aid over where you just injected and try leaving this bandaid on for a day or so.

I hope you understand this as I tried to go into as much detail as I could to help you out and explain the little things that I never had anyone explain to me for my first time.

Hi there, I'm new to this site and very interested in taking the roids, I have been training for many years, I mix it up with cardio and weights I feel at my strongest but want to be stronger if you see my point, I'm a uk resident and go gym 3-4 days a week, I eat a lot and use protein shakes, I need some serious advice and guidance on a this please

Regards
Rob

 

[Tripp_Adems]

I think thats the best advice u can give a newb! Like I said, they're gonna do it, they don't come here asking for permission. They want guidance, direction and recommendation under the understanding that they are doing it regardless of what u tell them. Least we can do is to give em that much. It's better than them learning thru mistakes and bs like I did!

Thank you Alpha that is the exact point of this thread to help guide the newbs and answer any of the questions that they may have in relation to injecting for instance so many people find it hard to understand what 300mg/ml means and how much they are supposed to inject, hence why I tried to clear that up also.

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Hi there, I'm new to this site and very interested in taking the roids, I have been training for many years, I mix it up with cardio and weights I feel at my strongest but want to be stronger if you see my point, I'm a uk resident and go gym 3-4 days a week, I eat a lot and use protein shakes, I need some serious advice and guidance on a this please

Regards
Rob

Well Robbo what you should consider is exactly what I wrote above, that is going to be your safest bet and if you have been at the same bench mark for a while after four or five weeks on Test E you will start to see noticable gains in your lifts and notice your size will be somewhat bigger. take it to the full 10 weeks and you will be loving life

 

[The Alpha...]

Rob, I think Tripp covered it pretty much in the first post. Start with a basic test only cycle just like he said. Crawl before u walk... U will gain strength and put size on as well. Be advised this is still a process and u get what u put into it. Please don't think that the gear in your system will allow u to not push yourself. U have to hit it hard!!! Using aas or "roids" as u put it is a decision u must take very seriously! By doing this u are making a commitment and not just to a hobby but a whole other lifestyle! U will need to increase the intensity levels as well as the days in the gym and diet / lifestyle outside of it. Gear is best for those who have plateaued naturally and need a boost to advance.

 

[Tripp_Adems]

bump!

 

[Tripp_Adems]

I am still seeing people making posts about first cycle's please if you have any questions ask here!

 

[cmg618]

Whats up everyone! Im new to the scene and could definitly use everyones wealth of knowledge. First off let me give my stats. Im 26 years old 6'5 217 lbs and have been training hard now for 2 years. Im not quite sure what my bf% is but if i had to guess i would probably put it somewhere in the mid teens. My diet consists of lean meats (turkey, chicken, white fish) alot of vegetables with a little bit of fruit. Id put my calorie intake around 3000-3500 per day but i split it up over 5 or 6 meals. I stay away from starchs sweets and anything that is a fast carb. If something is not whole grain i generally wont touch it besides the rare splurge. I have 3 protein shakes a day to keep my protein intake around 300 grams per day.

My workout routine is 7 days a week. I have a Weiders home gym thats similar to a bowflex that i use 5 or 6 days a week for about an hour and a half a day. I do full body workouts instead of splits. On off days i do cardio at high intensity for 30-45 min. 2 1/2 years ago i weighed over 300 lbs and hardly any of it was muscle. I had never really gotten into exercising up to that point but thought id give it a try because i didnt like the direction my body was going. Almost instantly i fell head over heels in love. It was the greatest high after every workout and it quickly changed from becoming a chore to something i looked forward to everyday. I dropped 100 lbs in 6 months just through strict diet and exercise. Now ive been trying to put muscle mass on and have come to a standstill which brings me to where im at now.

Im ready to give aas a go to keep my progress going. I have test prop, stanolozol, and oral tren on the way but am leaning towards just doing the test prop for my first cycle or maybe test prop and stanolozol. My cycle that im considering is as follows:

week 1-8 - test prop 100mg eod
week 3-8 - 40mg stanolozol ed
week 1-8 - .5mg anastrozole ed

I have hcgenerate, unleashed, Post Cycle, and Forged liver Support on hand but need advice on when i should start taking each one and dosage numbers. Also what do you think about running the oral tren on weeks 6-8 at 2 tabs a day(250mcg/tab)?

***Thought id take your advise Tripp and move this convo over to here. Thanks for the replys guys its very much appreciated! Tripp and pound4pound yes this would be my first cycle and i wasnt planning on taking the oral tren on this cycle. I was debating on taking the winstrol tabs for the last six weeks though but just wanted input. Im all for just doing test my first cycle if it is whats best but it sounds as though you dont think the propienate is what i should go with? And if i do go with just the test prop is 8 weeks a good cycle or should i go more like 10-12? Also help with the dosages for the hcgenerate, unleashed, and Post Cycle would be awesome as well as any other input

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Whats up everyone! Im new to the scene and could definitly use everyones wealth of knowledge. First off let me give my stats. Im 26 years old 6'5 217 lbs and have been training hard now for 2 years. Im not quite sure what my bf% is but if i had to guess i would probably put it somewhere in the mid teens. My diet consists of lean meats (turkey, chicken, white fish) alot of vegetables with a little bit of fruit. Id put my calorie intake around 3000-3500 per day but i split it up over 5 or 6 meals. I stay away from starchs sweets and anything that is a fast carb. If something is not whole grain i generally wont touch it besides the rare splurge. I have 3 protein shakes a day to keep my protein intake around 300 grams per day.

My workout routine is 7 days a week. I have a Weiders home gym thats similar to a bowflex that i use 5 or 6 days a week for about an hour and a half a day. I do full body workouts instead of splits. On off days i do cardio at high intensity for 30-45 min. 2 1/2 years ago i weighed over 300 lbs and hardly any of it was muscle. I had never really gotten into exercising up to that point but thought id give it a try because i didnt like the direction my body was going. Almost instantly i fell head over heels in love. It was the greatest high after every workout and it quickly changed from becoming a chore to something i looked forward to everyday. I dropped 100 lbs in 6 months just through strict diet and exercise. Now ive been trying to put muscle mass on and have come to a standstill which brings me to where im at now.

Im ready to give aas a go to keep my progress going. I have test prop, stanolozol, and oral tren on the way but am leaning towards just doing the test prop for my first cycle or maybe test prop and stanolozol. My cycle that im considering is as follows:

week 1-8 - test prop 100mg eod
week 3-8 - 40mg stanolozol ed
week 1-8 - .5mg anastrozole ed

I have hcgenerate, unleashed, Post Cycle, and Forged liver Support on hand but need advice on when i should start taking each one and dosage numbers. Also what do you think about running the oral tren on weeks 6-8 at 2 tabs a day(250mcg/tab)?

***Thought id take your advise Tripp and move this convo over to here. Thanks for the replys guys its very much appreciated! Tripp and pound4pound yes this would be my first cycle and i wasnt planning on taking the oral tren on this cycle. I was debating on taking the winstrol tabs for the last six weeks though but just wanted input. Im all for just doing test my first cycle if it is whats best but it sounds as though you dont think the propienate is what i should go with? And if i do go with just the test prop is 8 weeks a good cycle or should i go more like 10-12? Also help with the dosages for the hcgenerate, unleashed, and Post Cycle would be awesome as well as any other input

I would leave out the Winny for now. you would be fine doing Prop as a first cycle the main difference is the fact that Prop has a faster acting ester so you will need to be doing ed or eod injections, you need to make sure thats something you will be fine with.
Stick with 8 weeks, you really need to see how you are going to react with prop as some people get some bad sides like Prop Flu and Prop Pain I would google these so you know the symptoms before starting this cycle.
as for dosages I would recommend:
Unleashed 3 caps a day for one week then 2 for the following three weeks.
HCGenerate have 3am and 2pm
I might look at introducing PES erase at 3caps a day also as this naturally increases test:estro levels and decreases cortisol which is great for keeping size during PCT.

Hope this clears up your mind, any more questions please fire away!

 

[cmg618]

Thanks Tripp you are the man! Whats the deal with Beastdrol and Katanadrol as far as their effectiveness and safety and are they good to stack together. Im not looking at this as a cycle right now but possibly one down the road. I've just been doing alot of homework on a variety of different steroids and these two seem to keep coming up with alot of positive feedback so i just thought id get ur input

 

[cmg618]

Oh and also as far as the hcgenerate and unleashed go should i just run those post cycle only or some durring cycle also?

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Thanks Tripp you are the man! Whats the deal with Beastdrol and Katanadrol as far as their effectiveness and safety and are they good to stack together. Im not looking at this as a cycle right now but possibly one down the road. I've just been doing alot of homework on a variety of different steroids and these two seem to keep coming up with alot of positive feedback so i just thought id get ur input

I've heard alot of people on here stack them and loved it. I plan on doing it as soon as I end my current cycle

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Thanks Tripp you are the man! Whats the deal with Beastdrol and Katanadrol as far as their effectiveness and safety and are they good to stack together. Im not looking at this as a cycle right now but possibly one down the road. I've just been doing alot of homework on a variety of different steroids and these two seem to keep coming up with alot of positive feedback so i just thought id get ur input

Thank you and no Problem I am here to try and help those who are in need!
as far as Beast and Kdrol go I have had friends stack these and I can tell you the results were impressive!

Oh and also as far as the hcgenerate and unleashed go should i just run those post cycle only or some durring cycle also?

you should be fine to run them solely as a PCT, however there is no harm in running these through your cycle also. I would look at taking Vit C everyday whilst on cycle and during PCT also!

 

[cmg618]

Awesome! Should I be considering this as a first cycle instead?

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[Tripp_Adems]

Awesome! Should I be considering this as a first cycle instead?

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You should not be doing Beast/ Kdrol as a first cycle, that will be way too harsh on your body and you may not cope with the sudden change/ effects, definitely start on the Testosterone cycle only for a start

 

[cmg618]

What kinda effects? I've been doing alot of reading around and have come across quite a few people that have had positive experiences doing beast as a first cycle. Not questioning u in the least bit so please dont take it that way i'm just trying to understand brother

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[Tripp_Adems]

What kinda effects? I've been doing alot of reading around and have come across quite a few people that have had positive experiences doing beast as a first cycle. Not questioning u in the least bit so please dont take it that way i'm just trying to understand brother

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mate it comes down to what you want out of using AAS, as Beast and Katanadrol are going to make lean gains, some people don't like Beast because of the risk of sides for the little gains although they are very lean.
sides can be, but not limited to:
Headaches, lethargy, acne, aggresion, high blood pressure (HBP), thinning of the hair, and a decline in healthy cholesterol levels

Test is going to put some great mass on your body, may not be as lean however you are going to bulk up, get stronger and with alot less risk of sides. Test is a safer first cycle, any member with knowledge will tell you this!

 

[cmg618]

Once again Trips thank u for the input a d advice. I promise u its not in vane. I'm just currently in my researching stage and I tend to ask alot of questions so I can try to understand better. I know it can come across as stubborn so I really do appreciate u taking the time to help expand my knowledge!

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[danoman27]

Great thread, Tripp. What would you reccommend for PCT for a newb going on Test-e 150x2 10 week cycle? I was thinking forma stanzol and HCGenerate. Is d-aspartic acid an option as well?

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Once again Trips thank u for the input a d advice. I promise u its not in vane. I'm just currently in my researching stage and I tend to ask alot of questions so I can try to understand better. I know it can come across as stubborn so I really do appreciate u taking the time to help expand my knowledge!

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mate no problem at all, I understand where you are coming from we were all at your stage once upon a time! Glad I can help out

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Great thread, Tripp. What would you reccommend for PCT for a newb going on Test-e 150x2 10 week cycle? I was thinking forma stanzol and HCGenerate. Is d-aspartic acid an option as well?

Forma and HCGenerate will be great for PCT, you could always bring in d-aspa however this also increases testosterone levels which therefore rises estrogen, and as it does not have an anti estro complex to it therefore there is an increasing risk of Gyno occurance. I would probably recommend leaving it out or you could always run it with a compound to reduce your estro levels but then that is going to cause more sides and recovery will be longer. I would probably stick with PES Erase or preferably the new PES Erase Pro (I have not used erase pro yet however if they say it is better than erase and you only have to take it once a day it would be much easier and better suited)

 

[danoman27]

Forma and HCGenerate will be great for PCT, you could always bring in d-aspa however this also increases testosterone levels which therefore rises estrogen, and as it does not have an anti estro complex to it therefore there is an increasing risk of Gyno occurance. I would probably recommend leaving it out or you could always run it with a compound to reduce your estro levels but then that is going to cause more sides and recovery will be longer. I would probably stick with PES Erase or preferably the new PES Erase Pro (I have not used erase pro yet however if they say it is better than erase and you only have to take it once a day it would be much easier and better suited)

Sweet, thanks for the advice.

 

[Tripp_Adems]

BUMP, ask questions if you need!

 

[Imnotheroften]

Iv got a question!
Stats 21
181 cm
90kg
Bodyfat not sure around 12%

Im soon done with my first cycle it was dbol 1-4 and testo e 250 x2 a week for 12 weeks .. now im going to do unleashed and postcycle for about 4 weeks and then take some bottles of bridge..
When do you think I can do my second cycle? How long do I need to wait ?
And what do you suggest for second cycle?
I just want to get bigger and stronger .. Dont care about bloating

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Hi,
well you are quite young and that was a bit of a hexy first cycle, not what I would have recommended however after doing dbol and test you're not going to want to expect anything less which is a bit of a shame.
the general rule is Time on cycle plus PCT = Time off so for instance you ran you're cycle for 12 weeks, and you are running PCT for 4 weeks thats a total of 16weeks that you need you're body to rest and recover. though I always allow an extra 2+ weeks off for your body to gather itself, the less time you leave inbetween cycles the less effective the next cycle will be.

(this is an idea, an answer to your question not what I recommend) If you don't mind the bloat and you just want to get bigger and stronger I'd suggest taking Anadrol however this is quite liver toxic so you will need to take N2Guard with it and I would suggest Test Sustanon, this is going to give you some real great gains, will make you bigger than dbol and test e however you will have a little more water bloat which you need to be aware of. I would suggest running HCGenerate (pct and during) and Unleashed/ Post cycle as you are now for PCT..

However keep in mind that is the answer to your question though I would not recommend doing such a big cycle for your second cycle, if you can handle it maybe run Test Suspension, though this is everyday injections this is going to be a healthier option over running Anadrol and Test Sustanon, and still going to give you some amazing gains!

 

[oxymoron]

CMG-
I may have missed a follow up to this but i think u are only doing ur weight training on a bowflex. I'd recommend joining a gym or at least getting free weights. When I'm visiting the folks I use their bowflex and it pales in comparison to a squat rack, dumbells or even hammerstrength equip.
It sounds like ur preety gung hoe so be careful not to over train. I go friggin nuts at the gym on cycle and I have tendency to not give myself proper rest.
100mg/eod prop will make u very happy.


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[JuiceIsMyFriend]

CMG-
I may have missed a follow up to this but i think u are only doing ur weight training on a bowflex. I'd recommend joining a gym or at least getting free weights. When I'm visiting the folks I use their bowflex and it pales in comparison to a squat rack, dumbells or even hammerstrength equip.
It sounds like ur preety gung hoe so be careful not to over train. I go friggin nuts at the gym on cycle and I have tendency to not give myself proper rest.
100mg/eod prop will make u very happy.


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That's what I'm on right now. Along with cyp eq and winny. I feel like a monster. I could lift hrs and hrs if I didn't force myself to stop

 

[Imnotheroften]

Hi,
well you are quite young and that was a bit of a hexy first cycle, not what I would have recommended however after doing dbol and test you're not going to want to expect anything less which is a bit of a shame.
the general rule is Time on cycle plus PCT = Time off so for instance you ran you're cycle for 12 weeks, and you are running PCT for 4 weeks thats a total of 16weeks that you need you're body to rest and recover. though I always allow an extra 2+ weeks off for your body to gather itself, the less time you leave inbetween cycles the less effective the next cycle will be.

(this is an idea, an answer to your question not what I recommend) If you don't mind the bloat and you just want to get bigger and stronger I'd suggest taking Anadrol however this is quite liver toxic so you will need to take N2Guard with it and I would suggest Test Sustanon, this is going to give you some real great gains, will make you bigger than dbol and test e however you will have a little more water bloat which you need to be aware of. I would suggest running HCGenerate (pct and during) and Unleashed/ Post cycle as you are now for PCT..

However keep in mind that is the answer to your question though I would not recommend doing such a big cycle for your second cycle, if you can handle it maybe run Test Suspension, though this is everyday injections this is going to be a healthier option over running Anadrol and Test Sustanon, and still going to give you some amazing gains!

Thanks alot for a very good answer man! Its really nice that you have time to answer!
I have heard alot of negativ things about anadrol, its the only steriod I have ever heard people talk about there heart rythem sometimes fucks up and stuff like that. Iv also heard that its one of the strongest steroids to. Just correct me if im wrong!
Its not a problem for me to pin everyday! But I cant get my hand on suspension! I can get almost everything, but not this one! So hopefully you come with a new recommandation! )

I will also get my hands on HCGenerate before next cycle!
Thanks alot again man!

 

[cmg618]

OxyMoron Yah i can see where ur coming from regarding the gym and freeweights. My dilemma is that I'm a single father of a 2 year old and I have full custody so its hard for me to be able to put the commitment needed into a gym because by the time I get her home from daycare, fed, give her a bath and spend some time reading with her its her bedtime. After she goes to bed is when I do work on that bowflex. The reason I haven't opted to go with freeweights at home is only because I like to push up as much weight as possible in a 5x5 format and without a spotter I worry about safety. I'm also a big believer in rest also so when I say I go 7 days a week I mean that whatever days I'm not lifting I still do cardio but regardless I still do have to remind myself sometimes to ease up and give my body a break lol. Thanks for ur advice brother!

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[1Johnboy]

Great info, clearly written and easy to understand. Will def refer to post when I am ready to take the next step

Thanks!

 

[Tripp_Adems]

Thanks alot for a very good answer man! Its really nice that you have time to answer!
I have heard alot of negativ things about anadrol, its the only steriod I have ever heard people talk about there heart rythem sometimes fucks up and stuff like that. Iv also heard that its one of the strongest steroids to. Just correct me if im wrong!
Its not a problem for me to pin everyday! But I cant get my hand on suspension! I can get almost everything, but not this one! So hopefully you come with a new recommandation! )

I will also get my hands on HCGenerate before next cycle!
Thanks alot again man!

No worries I am just here to try and help out. I like spending a bit of my time during the week to help people out, it brings good Karma I believe!
Well depending on how far you want to take it, you seem to be quite determined to be bigger than your last dbol and test E cycle so maybe run the same however run some decca along your test e for the same amount of time, one of my good mates is running this right now and he has blown right up and look amazing! although I might say replace Test E with Sus and that would be an even more amazing cycle!

 

[Tripp_Adems]

BUMP! for the love of helping newbies! throw some questions at me guys!

 

[Tripp_Adems]

BUUMMMP for the love of helping beginners! This is going to be applicable knowledge for the next few foreseeable years so please ask your questions here and get some expert advice!

 

[Gambit101]

Alright Tripp here goes, I see you helping these other guys so much i hope you can do the same for me lol.

I am 23 years old
5 foot 11 inches
currently 185 pounds
and around 15% BF

Right now I lift 6 times a week, and do some form of cardio 3-5 times a week.

About 2 years ago i was at 220 pounds and about 27% BF, and in the first 6 months got down to 165 with typical cardio and exercise and since then have been working to pack on some muscle and more than that just get stronger. to make a long story short i have tried pretty much everything to try and tone down more(did the entire Insanity workout series, running, HIIT) even by the end of 6 months of that i still have slight love handles and slight gyno but nowhere near how i was before. And I have tried to break through this barrier I have been at for the last 6 months as far as lifting maxes and muscle size, and no matter whether i am trying to bulk or cut i am stuck in the same place. Now i am roughly 3 times stronger in almost every muscle group than i was 2 years ago, but i digress.

Recently i have made the decision to try out anabolic steroids to see if they can help me to accomplish the goals i want. I have read many forums and think I'm going to try Test E x 150 2 times a day, 2 days a week, for 10 weeks like you and many others recommend for anyone's first cycle.

I have, among many, from what i can see two major issues though:

1) I have almost no idea what i should be doing as far as PCT.

2) I haven't any idea where to start, shop, buy any of this stuff other than test e. I feel like the actual acquisition of these materials is, if others are like myself, a huge point of confusion when it comes to starting out.

I appreciate tremendously what you're doing here, and hope that I can get a good handle on this stuff before actually starting. Thank you very much for your time guys!!

 

[Gambit101]

Also forgot to mention a few things:

I am in the United States of America, so i know the acquisition part of things might not be the same here as other places. Also if you need to know about my diet at all i feel like i have that figured out pretty well whether i am cutting or bulking, but about how much should one eat when on a test e cycle? Do i pretty much function, lift, eat as if i were on a typical bulking phase? Right now i am just starting to bulk since i finished a few months of intense cardio a couple weeks back and am consuming around 3000 cals, 200g protein, 150g carbs, and around 80-100g fat.

As far as supps i am taking musclepharm assault for a pre and scivation xtend for a BCAA, Fish oil, a multivitamin, and oxy elite pro as a thermogenic. Is it beneficial to continue using a stack like this when on a test e cycle or could it cause complications?

Thank you again for helping me out with this!!

 

[Jigga14]

Is Tripp gonna jump in? I haven't seen him around these parts for a long time. U might be better off starting your own thread or using the search bar (it's a pretty nice little tool) rather than bumping old threads

 

[anoxicblaze]

Hi,
I'm a little confused by the "you should not consider steroids if you have not been working out seriously for two consecutive straight years"
That seems a little extreme. I have trained on and off for about fifteen years. I (essentially) stopped training altogether two years ago and have just started again. Do I need to wait two years until I can take Test-E?
Every actor in Hollywood who has to get massive for a part achieve this in way less than one year. Start to finish.
How about training hard for three months then doing a cycle? What are the consequences of this? (I believe Tom Hardy did this regime for the new Batman film)

Thanks

DJ

 

[rms13]

So, you recommend running test for 10 weeks and not running a serm based pct? What about running hcg on cycle. And how about having AI on hand in case you run into estrogen issues and god forbid gyno?

 

[GeminiX]

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[GeminiX]

Hello, i just joined 10-03-12. I am curious on why a person needs to have a few yrs lifting under their belt, if any b4 cycling TEST-E. Will it harm the body? Also i keep reading that TEST-E is injectable rather than TEST-E (pill form). Which is better or should i ask which one works?
Ok so anyways, i am 6'1, 215, 38yrs and quit the YMCA since i bought everything i need for our basment. I wanted to start TREN but after reading and readin, its not something ya can just start popping. I was told to do this and was wondering if its correct.

Test E only, 500mg/wk (250mg twice a week) for 12 weeks, rest 14 days,
PCT with Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/20/20/20. Done.
Don't do Tren , don't do orals, don't do anything other than Test, Rest, PCT.

I have never cycled anything before. Just daily cals and a few protein shakes. This cycling is all greek to me so i wanted to study it before i just dove in and hurt myself or worse. I am not sure if this guy means TEST only for 12 wks then when off it, onto the PCT then do standalone CLOM and NOLV during the 14 day rest and repeat or what?
I uploaded a photo of me (white shirt) and my goal (shirtless)

Thanks in advance

 

[jms4367]

I am 5'8" 145 pounds 34 years old. male. Always been the short skinny kid. Diet is good. Lean meats, good carbs etc.

My friend who is a doctor put me of 300 mg once a week of both Tren and Testosterone. Also doing HCG on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Not sure of the dosage because it is an insulin syringe and I do to where it says 20.

Can someone out there please give me an idea of if these doses are high or low and are a good idea to be doing together.???? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!! I feel like i'm doing this blind without and information and am having a hard time researching it online. Please help!