So many options for PCT

[Artigo]

I plan on doing my first cycle next year (I will be 22) as I plan on acquiring the products over that time period, however, I'm having trouble nailing down a perfect pct for my light first cycle.

I want to run 500mg Test-E/wk for 12 weeks. Now, I know about all of the pct products available, but I'm not sure which ones I should be running. I want the best available, with least sides and most retainable gains. Thoughts?

 

[conan90]

Personally, I am using a combination of HCG/aromasin/clomid/nolva. I have never tried an OTC product for PCT, but I have heard great things about products like Unleashed and HCGenerate.

Personally, I think you're too young to start cycling. Cycling at 22 has a huge chance of causing your natural levels to decrease prematurely, and cause permanent damage to your testicles. Your hormones don't start decreasing until you are around 30. If you want a boost, you should probably stick with a test booster. I am 31 and didn't do any cycle until I was 30. I became rather massive from 17 years of naturally exercise, before every cycling.

Also, if you insist on taking Test, I think 500 mg/week is too much for a first cycle. I know many people recommend that much, but they care little for their health, and have probably done many cycles. Just 250 mg will give you good results, and reduce your risks of side effects.I have not taken more than 250 mg although I did combine it with primo once. 250 mg should at least double your current test levels. HRT only uses about 125 mg per week to get men into the normal range. Also, the longer the cycle, the more damaging it can be. Your testicles will not be doing anything for 12 weeks. You might want to try reducing your cycle to 10 weeks.

 

[Artigo]

Personally, I am using a combination of HCG/aromasin/clomid/nolva. I have never tried an OTC product for PCT, but I have heard great things about products like Unleashed and HCGenerate.

I've heard good things about those as well, that's why I'm unsure what would be best.

Personally, I think you're too young to start cycling. Cycling at 22 has a huge chance of causing your natural levels to decrease prematurely, and cause permanent damage to your testicles. Your hormones don't start decreasing until you are around 30. If you want a boost, you should probably stick with a test booster. I am 31 and didn't do any cycle until I was 30. I became rather massive from 17 years of naturally exercise, before every cycling.

Well I'm not trying to get huge off of this one cycle. My diet and training is dialed and I'm trying to make solid lean gains, but mostly strength gains as I am a powerlifter. I appreciate your concern though. From what I understand though, I won't have any health issues if I plan it properly and have a solid pct.

Also, if you insist on taking Test, I think 500 mg/week is too much for a first cycle. I know many people recommend that much, but they care little for their health, and have probably done many cycles. Just 250 mg will give you good results, and reduce your risks of side effects.I have not taken more than 250 mg although I did combine it with primo once. 250 mg should at least double your current test levels. HRT only uses about 125 mg per week to get men into the normal range. Also, the longer the cycle, the more damaging it can be. Your testicles will not be doing anything for 12 weeks. You might want to try reducing your cycle to 10 weeks.

Ok I could do 10 weeks, doesn't matter so much honestly, as I just want to get used to it for a first cycle. However, from what I've read on here and pretty much everywhere else is that 500mg/wk is pretty standard. I feel like 250mg/wk might be too little and then I might as well just do an 8 week SARM cycle.

Thanks for your help

 

[MassEffect]

This is my current cycle, got it checked and approved.


Wk 1-10 test e 500mg/wk
Wk 1-12 Forma Stanzol (Morning 5 pumps, Night 5 pumps)
Wk 7-10 HCGenerate 5 caps per day

PCT (starts 2 weeks after last inject for 4 weeks long)
Clomid 50mg per day or 50, 50, 25, 25 per day.
or
nolva wk 1) 40mg per day wk 2) 40mg per day wk 3) 20mg per day wk 4) 20mg per day
Forma Stanzol (Morning 5 pumps, Night 5 pumps) Everyday for the rest of the PCT

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Nolva does nothing for PCT, and HCG will actually hinder your recovery efforts while on PCT, On cycle HCG will help you recover faster, That said Get you an Ai Preferably aromasin run it at 12.5mg EOD while on cycle, and PCT, run your PCT at 100/75/75/50 Clomid Ed and you will be fine.

 

[Artigo]

So could I run what masseffect has on cycle except do HCGenerate 1-10 ? or is that too much? Because I've heard good things about forma stanzol

Wk 1-10 test e 500mg/wk
Wk 1-12 Forma Stanzol (Morning 5 pumps, Night 5 pumps) as my ai
Wk 1-10 HCGenerate 5 caps per day

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[Artigo]

I guess no edit for non-plat how does this look for first cycle? too much? Im trying to follow one of the modern pct guides here on elitefts

Test-E 1-10 500mg/wk
HCGenerate 1-11 5 caps a day
Form-stanazol 5 pumps am/pm

PCT
Post-cycle/Unleashed
Aromasin 12.5mg eod

 

[littlevedds]

On cycle you could run HCGenerate 3caps EOD just to keep your testes working throughout. if you want to keep it at 5 caps ED thats fine, but IMO it is too much. 3caps ED during PCT should be alright aswell.

1-10/ Test E 500mg
1-12/ Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
4-17/ Forma 5pumps am, 5pumps pm ED
1-12/ HCGenerate 3caps EOD
13-17/ HCGenerate 3caps ED
13-17/ Post cycle 3caps ED
13-17/ Unleashed 3caps ED

 

[Artigo]

On cycle you could run HCGenerate 3caps EOD just to keep your testes working throughout. if you want to keep it at 5 caps ED thats fine, but IMO it is too much. 3caps ED during PCT should be alright aswell.

1-10/ Test E 500mg
1-12/ Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
4-17/ Forma 5pumps am, 5pumps pm ED
1-12/ HCGenerate 3caps EOD
13-17/ HCGenerate 3caps ED
13-17/ Post cycle 3caps ED
13-17/ Unleashed 3caps ED

Perfect thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nolva does nothing for PCT, and HCG will actually hinder your recovery efforts while on PCT, On cycle HCG will help you recover faster, That said Get you an Ai Preferably aromasin run it at 12.5mg EOD while on cycle, and PCT, run your PCT at 100/75/75/50 Clomid Ed and you will be fine.

You're half right. Nova does nothing for PCT. But either does CLomid since they're almost identical.