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What is your real age versus your genetc age?

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This is a good question for a fitness board. I have been pretty lucky, my parents are in their sixties but both look great, like mid forties tops. Myself, Im in my early thirties, and no one ever believes Im that old ( I AM that old, lol :bawling: ) so I guess Im pretty fortunate. So, my actual age is 33 bur genetically, Id say 23-24.
 
I'm 47 and people are always guessing that I'm 10-15 years younger. I guess that's 'cause I still have all my hair, and it's not gray yet.

That, and the fact that I have the emotional maturity of an adolescent...
 
Mr. dB said:
I'm 47 and people are always guessing that I'm 10-15 years younger. I guess that's 'cause I still have all my hair, and it's not gray yet.

That, and the fact that I have the emotional maturity of an adolescent...
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So, 47 and 32-34 maybe?
 
I'm 24 and feel 24. Though I think that a lot of other people my age haven't been through some of the trauma I have so I am rich with life-experience.

My little sister is 21 and acts about 16. I can't wait for her to graduate this spring so I can laugh at her as she enters the real world. That girl has NO idea. She doesn't pay any bills. My parents own her car and pay for her insurance. She overspends and gets checks from Mom and Dad every month...but that's not going to be happening once she's done with school. She rips on me for not wanting to go out on Thursday nights at 10pm. She doesn't get how I work but don't have all sorts of extra money to spend. It'll be great fun to see!

My mom and dad are both 48. My mom is physically like an old woman because she is crippled with pain. I feel bad for my parents because they can't do much stuff like travelling. They're always at the pain clinic. She's always on morphine (she can drive on it-- it just takes the edge off). I feel bad that they have money and everything else but are limited in what they can do.
 
Raina said:


My mom and dad are both 48. My mom is physically like an old woman because she is crippled with pain. I feel bad for my parents because they can't do much stuff like travelling. They're always at the pain clinic. She's always on morphine (she can drive on it-- it just takes the edge off). I feel bad that they have money and everything else but are limited in what they can do.
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Wow Raina, sounds like they are in bad shape. I cant imagine that kind of pain. Hope trhey find something that helps them a little more.
 
anabolicmd said:
This is a good question for a fitness board. I have been pretty lucky, my parents are in their sixties but both look great, like mid forties tops. Myself, Im in my early thirties, and no one ever believes Im that old ( I AM that old, lol :bawling: ) so I guess Im pretty fortunate. So, my actual age is 33 bur genetically, Id say 23-24.
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I'm 34, look 25. I though you were supposed to be dead.
 
Raina said:
I'm 24 and feel 24. Though I think that a lot of other people my age haven't been through some of the trauma I have so I am rich with life-experience.

My little sister is 21 and acts about 16. I can't wait for her to graduate this spring so I can laugh at her as she enters the real world. That girl has NO idea. She doesn't pay any bills. My parents own her car and pay for her insurance. She overspends and gets checks from Mom and Dad every month...but that's not going to be happening once she's done with school. She rips on me for not wanting to go out on Thursday nights at 10pm. She doesn't get how I work but don't have all sorts of extra money to spend. It'll be great fun to see!

My mom and dad are both 48. My mom is physically like an old woman because she is crippled with pain. I feel bad for my parents because they can't do much stuff like travelling. They're always at the pain clinic. She's always on morphine (she can drive on it-- it just takes the edge off). I feel bad that they have money and everything else but are limited in what they can do.
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Hi boo boo, puppy licks.
 
Not really. She's a little freak. Her body sort of isn't possible. She has 5 extra vertebrae, several extra sets of ribs (they cut them out when she was 16 but left little 1" nubs in there...and they grew back). Her nerve connections are impossible. A current put into her right foot comes out in her left. The nerves that go down her right leg are up in her left hip socket and the other way around too. So when she gets cortisone shots in her hips they have to do the opposite hips.

Once they actually located the problem nerves, they discovered that she will likely lose all bowel and bladder control if they try to numb then with alcohol. She's been everywhere-- including the mayo clinic and all they can say is they have no idea what to do with her other than try to decrease her pain.

So now she's just on long term pain management. She has been for years. She has morphine patches but also takes methadone and other stuff for pain. Even so, she can barely walk most of the time and she is so loopy she can't remember anything and sleeps a lot. One day we'd come home and she'd sewn clothes with matching hats for their dog. lol She didn't even remember it. Poor mom. :(

She hates taking her meds too. She hates that she's opiate dependant-- but she's not addicted because she never over-uses or anything. They make her do drug tests etc all the time. On an odd note, she had 2 abcessed teeth and didn't even know because of her meds.. They'd been like that for months. She just didn't feel them. That just happened last month!
 
I figure I'm about 20% behind..so at 41 I look about 32...when I reach 50 I'll look about 40..anti-oxidants,deprenyl,diet,exercise,no heavy bulking diets,I actaully eat relatively little for my size(~190,9%)...the most commonly accepted life extension technique is calorie restriction,albeit with enough nutrients..I eat "strategically" to resupply after workouts...I almost feel guilty if i eat and I haven't exercised..would like to get back to once a week day long fasts
 
its not the age, its the mileage. In that case, im about a hundred and three. Ha/ha I have done and seen things most men only dream and read about.
 
im 19 but look 23........


have always looked a few years older than my actual age....people don't believe me when I tell them....

guess it depends on the whole facial hair thing though...clean shaven i look more my age
 
ChewYxRage said:
4everhung...

whats this whole day long fast thing you talkin about....?
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don't eat for a day..even recommended ofr your animals/pets
 
I'm 14295 days, 21 hours, 12 minutes old. I'm told I don't look a day over 14,290.
 
4everhung said:
don't eat for a day..even recommended ofr your animals/pets
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Obviously.....

i was lookin more for some benefits to doing this....got any ? :)

maybe a website explaining the thoughts behind it something..
 
The Health Benefits of Fasting
Will Carroll
There has been much contention in the scientific field about whether or not fasting is beneficial to one's health. Fasting is an integral part of many of the major religions including Islam, Judaism and Christianity. Many are dubious as to whether the physiological effects are as beneficial as the spiritual promoted by these religions. There is a significant community of alternative healers who believe that fasting can do wonders for the human body. This paper will look at the arguments presented by these healers in an attempt to raise awareness of the possible physiological benefits that may result from fasting.

Fasting technically commences within the first twelve to twenty-four hours of the fast. A fast does not chemically begin until the carbohydrate stores in the body begin to be used as an energy source. The fast will continue as long as fat and carbohydrate stores are used for energy, as opposed to protein stores. Once protein stores begin to be depleted for energy (resulting in loss of muscle mass) a person is technically starving. (1)

The benefits of fasting must be preceded by a look at the body's progression when deprived of food. Due to the lack of incoming energy, the body must turn to its own resources, a function called autolysis. (2) Autolysis is the breaking down of fat stores in the body in order to produce energy. The liver is in charge of converting the fats into a chemical called a ketone body, "the metabolic substances acetoacetic acid and beta-hydroxybutyric acid" (3), and then distributing these bodies throughout the body via the blood stream. "When this fat utilization occurs, free fatty acids are released into the blood stream and are used by the liver for energy." (3) The less one eats, the more the body turns to these stored fats and creates these ketone bodies, the accumulation of which is referred to as ketosis. (4)

Detoxification is the foremost argument presented by advocates of fasting. "Detoxification is a normal body process of eliminating or neutralizing toxins through the colon, liver, kidneys, lungs, lymph glands, and skin." (5). This process is precipitated by fasting because when food is no longer entering the body, the body turns to fat reserves for energy. "Human fat is valued at 3,500 calories per pound," a number that would lead one to believe that surviving on one pound of fat every day would provide a body with enough energy to function normally. (2) These fat reserves were created when excess glucose and carbohydrates were not used for energy or growth, not excreted, and therefore converted into fat. When the fat reserves are used for energy during a fast, it releases the chemicals from the fatty acids into the system which are then eliminated through the aforementioned organs. Chemicals not found in food but absorbed from one's environment, such as DDT, are also stored in fat reserves that may be released during a fast. One fasting advocate tested his own urine, feces and sweat during an extended fast and found traces of DDT in each. (5)

A second prescribed benefit of fasting is the healing process that begins in the body during a fast. During a fast energy is diverted away from the digestive system due to its lack of use and towards the metabolism and immune system. (6) The healing process during a fast is precipitated by the body's search for energy sources. Abnormal growths within the body, tumors and the like, do not have the full support of the body's supplies and therefore are more susceptible to autolysis. Furthermore, "production of protein for replacement of damaged cells (protein synthesis) occurs more efficiently because fewer 'mistakes' are made by the DNA/RNA genetic controls which govern this process." A higher efficiency in protein synthesis results in healthier cells, tissues and organs. (7) This is one reason that animals stop eating when they are wounded, and why humans lose hunger during influenza. Hunger has been proven absent in illnesses such as gastritis, tonsillitis and colds. (2) Therefore, when one is fasting, the person is consciously diverting energy from the digestive system to the immune system.

In addition, there is a reduction in core body temperature. This is a direct result of the slower metabolic rate and general bodily functions. Following a drop in blood sugar level and using the reserves of glucose found in liver glycogen, the basal metabolic rate (BMR) is reduced in order to conserve as much energy within the body as can be provided. (2) Growth hormones are also released during a fast, due to the greater efficiency in hormone production. (7)

Finally, the most scientifically proven advantage to fasting is the feeling of rejuvenation and extended life expectancy. Part of this phenomenon is caused by a number of the benefits mentioned above. A slower metabolic rate, more efficient protein production, an improved immune system, and the increased production of hormones contributes to this long-term benefit of fasting. In addition to the Human Growth Hormone that is released more frequently during a fast, an anti-aging hormone is also produced more efficiently. (7) "The only reliable way to extend the lifespan of a mammal is under-nutrition without malnutrition." (5) A study was performed on earthworms that demonstrated the extension of life due to fasting. The experiment was performed in the 1930s by isolating one worm and putting it on a cycle of fasting and feeding. The isolated worm outlasted its relatives by 19 generations, while still maintaining its youthful physiological traits. The worm was able to survive on its own tissue for months. Once the size of the worm began to decrease, the scientists would resume feeding it at which point it showed great vigor and energy. "The life-span extension of these worms was the equivalent of keeping a man alive for 600 to 700 years." (8)

In conclusion, it seems that there are many reasons to consider fasting as a benefit to one's health. The body rids itself of the toxins that have built up in our fat stores throughout the years. The body heals itself, repairs all the damaged organs during a fast. And finally there is good evidence to show that regulated fasting contributes to longer life. However, many doctors warn against fasting for extended periods of time without supervision. There are still many doctors today who deny all of these points and claim that fasting is detrimental to one's health and have evidence to back their statements. The idea of depriving a body of what society has come to view as so essential to our survival in order to heal continues to be a topic of controversy.




References
1)"Dr. Sniadach – True Health Freedom 3

2)fastingforbetterhealth

3)"Ketosis by Sue Reith"

4)"Nutriquest, March 11th, 2000 – Ketosis and Low Carbohydrate Diets"
 
awesome article...thanks.

can you explain to me the method/precedure/whatever that you did when you were fasting?

i would imagine it would be a rest day...how many hours did you fast for? 24 hours?

what is the optimal amount of time to get the benefits from fasting?
 
31 and people guess late 20's so they are not to far off. I get carded sometimes also. I have a feelling i will age alot in the next few years though. My oldest daughter (13) is now into boys big time. NOt good!
 
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31 and people guess late 20's no they are not to far off. I get carded sometimes also. I have a feelling i will age alot in the next few years though. My oldest daughter (13) is not into boys big time. NOt good!
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that last sentence came outta left....

so you think your daughter is gay?
 
woodmeister said:
its not the age, its the mileage. In that case, im about a hundred and three. Ha/ha I have done and seen things most men only dream and read about.
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like what big guy?!?!
 
How does caloric restriction slow down aging?

Overview
Caloric restriction seems to slow down some of the destructive processes that take place in cells and tissues with aging. Scientists don't yet know exactly how or why it works, but have developed several theories.

First of all, caloric restriction seems to reduce damage from chemical metabolic processes, particularly oxidative and glycation damage, thought to be leading causes of cell aging and death. (2)

On a larger scale, caloric restriction slows the effects of aging on the nervous system, the reproductive organs and the production of hormones in some animals. It has been shown to boost the immune system and delay the onset of certain age-related cancers. (3)

Reducing cellular damage
Oxidative damage results when free radicals, the potentially toxic byproducts of cell energy production, break down DNA, cell walls, and mitochondria, the energy factories of cells. Caloric restriction has been observed to retard and even reverse oxidative damage in aging animals. (4)

Glycation is the addition or insertion of sugar molecules into DNA and proteins that takes place in a variety of physiological reactions. Glycation causes damage to proteins and DNA and is thought to be a major cause of degeneration associated with diabetes and other diseases. Caloric restriction also reduces glycation damage in tissues.


Hormonal effects

Insulin
Probably the most significant effects of caloric restriction in animals occur in glucose and insulin regulation. (5) Glucose is a simple sugar that is one of the major sources of energy for mammals. It enters the circulation after food is digested and circulates until the hormone insulin assists its movement into cells to be turned into fuel, or into the liver, to be stored for future use. With age and obesity, mammals such as mice, monkeys and humans develop insulin resistance, which is a drop-off in the ability of insulin to push glucose into cells. With insulin resistance, blood glucose (blood sugar) levels rise, blood insulin levels rise, and cells and tissues are damaged. Diabetes, high blood pressure, hardening of the arteries, heart disease and stroke are some of the consequences of insulin resistance in humans.

Caloric restriction protects against insulin resistance. (6) The tissues of an animal whose total calorie (and thus energy) intake is limited become more sensitive to insulin for driving glucose into cells. This has been observed in numerous species of laboratory mice and rats; recent studies in non-human primates have also demonstrated caloric restriction's beneficial effects on reducing insulin resistance. (7,8)

Energy-related hormones
Caloric restriction reduces amounts of thyroid hormone, which stimulates metabolism; sex hormones, which drive reproduction; and growth hormone. By reducing these hormones, caloric restriction helps the animal conserve energy by slowing metabolism, avoiding pregnancy, and limiting growth.

Glucocorticoids
Caloric restriction has been shown to increase the ability of aging rodents to produce glucocorticoids, which are natural steroids produced when the body is under stress. They help stop glucose from being stored and instead redirect it into tissues that need it. As mammals age, the neurotransmission of signals between the brain and the adrenal gland is altered and the release of these stress hormones falters. Caloric restriction increases the blood level of glucocorticoids. (9)



Protection against temperature effects
Another interesting cellular change noted in aging rodents subjected to caloric restriction is their ability to resist the damaging effects of hyperthermia, or elevated body temperature. Older mammals are far more likely to suffer adverse effects from hyperthermia than are younger ones. One reason for this is the reduced ability of older mammals to produce protective substances called heat shock proteins. Caloric restriction enhances the ability to make heat shock proteins. (10)

Downsides
Caloric restriction leads to reduced ability to deal with hypothermia (lowered body temperature)—possibly associated with the individual's lower body fat content. Another problem is that wounds don't heal as quickly in calorie-restricted animals as in normal-fed laboratory animals.


Updated and reviewed: July 8, 2003
http://www.infoaging.org/b-cal-6role.html
 
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