Guys, please stop perpetuating this old myth. Dbol only is NOT a recipe for disaster. If he runs 25mg/day dbol with .5mg/eod of adex... he won't gain much water. If he runs that for say, 6 weeks, he can gain a good 8-10lbs of pretty solid muscle, and that's not going to just dissappear post-cycle since it's not water. Muscle is muscle, whether you gained it from primo or dbol. With proper PCT, he'll keep almost the exact same amount no matter what his cycle was. That being said, most people will still tell you to inject, and I tend to agree. Overall, injectables are safer and more effective, also cheaper in most cases for moderate to high doses. So, get over the fear of the needle. However, if you really want to do dbol only for a first cycle, it won't be bad. Take the tabs divided up every 4hrs or so to keep blood levels stable. Take .5mg arimidex eod throughout cycle, and start nolvadex for PCT the day after dbol stops.