I would guess, depending on how long you are planning on running it, Nolva would be a good idea. Like I said, I didn't notice any of the normal Tren side affects, but I didn't run it that long. So, I didn't really notice any shutdown, didn't notice any TRen dick or anything like that. I did get the night sweats pretty bad, though. I did run it with AX Ergomax....which is supposed to be a lot like DMT (Methyltest) I can't tell you exactly how much I gained, I'm not a scale person. I'd have to guess around 10 lbs over the month, probably kept 7 of them. I felt really good though, not really tired or crappy. This was more jsut a break from sticking myself and I fifgured I'd check out the rage of some of these Products. Running it with a Test might be cool. This stuff is supposed to be like Tren, so it is closer to a nortest/nandrolone, than a test. The chemical breakdown is on the bottle. If you look, it isn't that far off from Tren, just far enough to be leagal for a little while. What dosages were you thinking of running for this. Did you get the 240 cc or the 120cc bottles?