Lol people like me are tryin to Help bro. 50mg a day, yes I have, don't get me wrong, felt like I was chiseled outta stone, Calvin Klein abs, the whole 9... Till the ol balloon stopped inflating. My only point being that With the test, even low dose trt levels, gains are better, more solid, and you don't lose that drive. Just my $.02 tho, everyone's different