Is your Testosterone SHUT DOWN? FIX IT!

First of all the #1 side of AAS use in men is a VERY shitty lipid profile with a very poor Hdl to total cholesterol ratio

.....that said there are some users that do not seem to be able to recover their natural test production. This is usually a result of being "on" too long at one time or not staying off long enough between cycles to allow for full recovery..... but it can happen occasionally to anyone.
The main reason why recovery is slow is usually because the testes have shrunk and are having a hard time responding to LH. So if you insist on doing cycles over 8 weeks long and do not take an equal time off then be damn sure to use HCG 300-500iu's per day while on or at least for a couple weeks mid cycle and the last two weeks of a cycle. This will prevent testes shrinkage.

BTW the mild androgen nandrolone affects one the worst in this regard let me lake that perfectly clear, although any androgen can cause a problem.

HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

#1 get a total testosterone test done to be sure it is indeed a test problem. If your value is less than 300 then you have a case.

#2. take 2500 iu's of HCG every 4th day. Inject either sub Q or IM. Best place is in the belly fat sub Q. Continue for 32 days.

#3.Also do 50mg of clomid twice per day with food(helps absorbtion) Also include10mg of nolvadex per day. Do all the above for 32 days.

Then wait two weeks and get your test level checked again.

If that doesn't work then double the dose of HCG for 4 injections every 4th day. Than do 2500 iu's for 4 shots ..one every 4th day.
Do clomid and nolva throughout as above. Two weeks after finishing get the test checked again.

Good Luck

RG

Oh and don't take proviron as it will not allow for recovery of HPTA once it has been shut down!

RG

Real: Good post, thanks for the info!!

So, is it better to take 2500 ius every 4th day for a month, or ED at like 300-500 ius?

I didn't know HCG was best taken subq, why is this??

Thanks!!

TPH

If you get your test checked and it ends uup being low, can your doc prescribe you something to get it back up?

My doc prescribes HCG no prob. But not clomid.

TPH said:

Real: Good post, thanks for the info!!

So, is it better to take 2500 ius every 4th day for a month, or ED at like 300-500 ius?

I didn't know HCG was best taken subq, why is this??

Thanks!!

TPH

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During a cycle do not take large hits of HCG or you will desensitize the testes to LH...stick to 300-500iu's at a time.

BUT!...if you are shut down after a cycle and will not respond to normal clomid therapy then you need to follow my advice.
HCG can be taken subQ due to the small amount injected and its composition. Steroids can be taken sub Q too but it will hurt like HELL!

RG

Themachine01 said:

If you get your test checked and it ends uup being low, can your doc prescribe you something to get it back up?

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Most docs don't no JACK about getting test back......see an edocrinologist. Most family docs will just give you test to take and that sure the heck isn't going to fix the root of the problem.

RG

My doc was a competitive BBer and very cool. Ive never asked him to prescribe anything to me before, but I wonder if it is possible for him to give me something to get my levels back up. He can legally do this if my test levels are low, correct?

Themachine01 said:

My doc was a competitive BBer and very cool. Ive never asked him to prescribe anything to me before, but I wonder if it is possible for him to give me something to get my levels back up. He can legally do this if my test levels are low, correct?

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Yes test can be given legally for low test levels but it will not fix the problem bro.

RG

I understand that being prescribed test will not solve the problem, but, can he prescribe anything else to get levels back up?