Test,Var and HPTA restart after? Ultimate PCT

[ripped_k1d]

23 years old, ran PH’s, sarms, Var and topical test creams before. Been training for 6 years now. 5’9 180 with 12% BF. I have everything listed on hand already. I can put up diet/workouts later. I’ll probably log this. Going to get bloods done before, and after my cycle. My natural test levels are around 260-330 ngl. I tried a HPTA restart this Summer and I felt what having test feels like! HCG plus clomid and Nolva I was an animal. However when I came off my estrogen levels shot through the roof, my test dropped to where it was before and I feel like shit. I don’t want to go on TRT and I have all of this gear bought. I also have a really light schedule the next 3 months that I wont have in the Spring. My thinking is to do this cycle and then smash a solid pct and see where I stand after.

Cycle
Test E 500mg week 1-10
Proviron 25mg ED week 1-10
11oxo 75mg week 1-4
Anavar 60 mg week 5-10
HGH (Angtropin) 5iu ED upon waking
HCG 1k iu weeks 3-10 2k iu week 11
Adex .5mg E3D (Estrogen prone)
Caber .5 mg E3D
T3/T4 12.5mcg of each ED
Purus labs Organ shield all the way through

I have some topical DHEA cream I’ll throw in first couple weeks to help start my exo test levels
I have Letrozole on hand.. Will run probably halfway through cycle and through pct
Creatine nitrate weeks 5-10
Have letro and prami on hand

Here comes the fun part (in my opinion) PCT.. I want to do a HPTA restart after this cycle and hopefully achieve high natty levels while continuing on my HGH regime.

Last shot of test-e Thursday week 10
Adex .5 mg E3D week 10-16
HCG 2k iu week 11
200mcg Triptamorelin shot week 13
Starting week 13 Clomid 100 mg first 2 days, then 50/50/25/25/12.5
Starting week 13 Nolva 40/20/20/10/10/10/10
Aromosin 12.5mg E3D week 17-25?

I’ve been reading many studies about men who have ran aromosin for months and enjoyed a higher test/est ratio plus boosted IGF levels. I am very scared about estrogen rebound after my PCT. I already bought a bunch of Adex, but at the end of the pct I’d like to take a very small dose of aromosin every week just to keep my levels up.

 

[FunKoMaN]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you generally don't want to run AI's during PCT. I've always only used them while on cycle. Also, I don't think you need two of them while on, unless you're looking to get different results from each.

 

[hurricane]

23 years old, ran PH’s, sarms, Var and topical test creams before. Been training for 6 years now. 5’9 180 with 12% BF. I have everything listed on hand already. I can put up diet/workouts later. I’ll probably log this. Going to get bloods done before, and after my cycle. My natural test levels are around 260-330 ngl. I tried a HPTA restart this Summer and I felt what having test feels like! HCG plus clomid and Nolva I was an animal. However when I came off my estrogen levels shot through the roof, my test dropped to where it was before and I feel like shit. I don’t want to go on TRT and I have all of this gear bought. I also have a really light schedule the next 3 months that I wont have in the Spring. My thinking is to do this cycle and then smash a solid pct and see where I stand after.

Cycle
Test E 500mg week 1-10
Proviron 25mg ED week 1-10
11oxo 75mg week 1-4
Anavar 60 mg week 5-10
HGH (Angtropin) 5iu ED upon waking
HCG 1k iu weeks 3-10 2k iu week 11
Adex .5mg E3D (Estrogen prone)
Caber .5 mg E3D
T3/T4 12.5mcg of each ED
Purus labs Organ shield all the way through

I have some topical DHEA cream I’ll throw in first couple weeks to help start my exo test levels
I have Letrozole on hand.. Will run probably halfway through cycle and through pct
Creatine nitrate weeks 5-10
Have letro and prami on hand

Here comes the fun part (in my opinion) PCT.. I want to do a HPTA restart after this cycle and hopefully achieve high natty levels while continuing on my HGH regime.

Last shot of test-e Thursday week 10
Adex .5 mg E3D week 10-16
HCG 2k iu week 11
200mcg Triptamorelin shot week 13
Starting week 13 Clomid 100 mg first 2 days, then 50/50/25/25/12.5
Starting week 13 Nolva 40/20/20/10/10/10/10
Aromosin 12.5mg E3D week 17-25?

I’ve been reading many studies about men who have ran aromosin for months and enjoyed a higher test/est ratio plus boosted IGF levels. I am very scared about estrogen rebound after my PCT. I already bought a bunch of Adex, but at the end of the pct I’d like to take a very small dose of aromosin every week just to keep my levels up.

For starts i wouldnt be using hcg in pct at all.It can be suppressive

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Why are you complicating the hell out of this pct?
HCG , on cycle, 250iu's-2x/week up to 3 days pre pct.
No AI in pct- at all.
PCT- Clomid and Nolva. Clomid 100mg/day week 1, 50mg/day from week 2 on out. Nolva 40mg/day week 1, 20mg/day from week 2 on out.
Post PCT blood work 6-8 weeks post pct to confirm full hpta recovery.
Thats it.

 

[hurricane]

i actually like aromasin in pct for a few reason but adex is a no no in pct because it can cause estro rebound.Not everyone does this and its not a must either

 

[zmyj88]

Why are you complicating the hell out of this pct?
HCG , on cycle, 250iu's-2x/week up to 3 days pre pct.
No AI in pct- at all.
PCT- Clomid and Nolva. Clomid 100mg/day week 1, 50mg/day from week 2 on out. Nolva 40mg/day week 1, 20mg/day from week 2 on out.
Post PCT blood work 6-8 weeks post pct to confirm full hpta recovery.
Thats it.

First cycle, I agree with jimmy, you don't need all kinds of extra shit. Down the line when you're running all kinds of different tren and DECA an crazy doses all that, sure, badass pct. By that point you might not be interested in pct at all tho...

 

[ripped_k1d]

I'm young and want to see how high I can get my natural test levels up to post cycle. Not interested in running this cyle and getting to 400 ngl and then just saying oh screw it i'll run another cycle in 2 months. For many reasons i just want to do this cycle for now.

Of course no HCG during pct, must have not made that clear. I was just saying Im going to do a shot of HCG after my last pin but for sure 5 days before I start Clomid+ Nolva. Adex is what fucked me with estrog rebound. Its aromosin that I want post cycle so I don't have all sorts of estrogen nasties in my system.

Ahh screw it i'm gunna save all this for later and post a HPTA restore post in the TRT forum

 

[hurricane]

I'm young and want to see how high I can get my natural test levels up to post cycle. Not interested in running this cyle and getting to 400 ngl and then just saying oh screw it i'll run another cycle in 2 months. For many reasons i just want to do this cycle for now.

Of course no HCG during pct, must have not made that clear. I was just saying Im going to do a shot of HCG after my last pin but for sure 5 days before I start Clomid+ Nolva. Adex is what fucked me with estrog rebound. Its aromosin that I want post cycle so I don't have all sorts of estrogen nasties in my system.

Ahh screw it i'm gunna save all this for later and post a HPTA restore post in the TRT forum

yes you got it right, you dont want adex in pct but aromasin is good in pct.aromasin helps increasing igf-1 and free test .