Clenbuterol and testosterone training and cycle question

[alexander hre]

I went to the Doctor and got blood work done, my test levels came out low. The doctor said it is not low enough for him to suggest TRT quite yet, but I'm going to buy some UGL testosterone and shoot that anyway!


I also heard good things about Clenbuterol so I got some too. I just need help to get on the right direction with my training. Any other supplements suggestions I can stack with Clen and test will be appreciated!


I'm 50yrl 5' 11" 210lbs just over 14% bodyfat, but built. I want to lower my bodyfat down to under 10% if that is possible.

 

[muskate]

A good TRT dosage is 200mg/week. Remember to include an AI with your TRT to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 5mg EOD is a good dosage. This is very important to prevent estrogen related side effects like water retention and gyno.

I personally am not a big fan of clenbuterol.
Clenbuterol is very over rated. Here's why -
Clen simply raises metabolism. It does not differentiate between muscle or fat. Clen might raise your metabolism an additional 100-200 calories per day. You could just easily do an extra 15 minutes of cardio. I have used clen in the past and I always felt it did more harm then good. It caused muscle cramps when I was training and it really negatively impacted my sleep.


There are better alternatives that directly increase fat loss, with no risk of loosing muscle mass and no side effects like insomnia or muscle cramps. Cardarine gw is going to be your best option. It directly increases fat loss, endurance and recovery. It is not a stimulant or a hormone and is pretty much void of side effects.


I haven't used clen myself in years and don't recommend it to my clients at all anymore. If they are trying to burn fat, I recommend cardarine and maybe a good nutrient partitioning supplement like n2slin from n2bm.com.

 

[Jay Scott]

For clen, you will need a lot of magnesium and taurine in order to combat those nasty cramps and shakes.

Personally I wouldnt take clen (high BP, headaches, shaky hands, cramps), but if you really want to try it out - go for it.

Make sure you dont start with a high dose

 

[stevesmi]

if your test levels are low at 50 years old then find a doctor who will prescribe you TRT

if you have heart problems than a doctor is less likely to give it to you, so i hope you are in good shape.

 

[Lev Butlerov]

Yeah, at this age, and if you got all the indications of getting on TRT, it would be best to get it prescribed - this would make your testosterone usage legal, and it would be easier to buy it. 200 mgs is the optimal dosage for your goals, so I would stick with it. Preferrably, get the enanthate version - it will allow you to do injections once per week and will work just fine.

As for clenbuterol, as it was never meant for fat loss purposes, and when taken at dosages needed for that it will cause a lot of side effects (such as headached, crams, increased blood pressure, stomach disorders, insomnia, and many more stim related side effects). Besides, it is completely catabolic, so it will not only burn fat, but also lean muslce mass. Therefore, it will mostly reduce your overall mass, not just fat. What's more, it will also increase cortisol levels, which may lead to further fat gains, and other undesired effects.

For this reason, I strongly recommend you to use some safer alternatives that were meant for fat loss and recomping all along. For instance, Cardarine GW will effectively burn fat, but at the same time it will maintain your lean mass. Additionally, it will greatly enhance your endurance and recovery, leading to improved cardio performance, which will ultimately help with fat loss even more. The best part of it is that it causes no side effects at all.


You can stack it with N2Slin, which is a potent nutrient partitioner, which will redistribute insulin into the muscles instead of fat. It does not have side effects either, so it is completely safe to use. I have personally used both, and my wife has also done so - the results were always beyong expectations, and there were no issues at all.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

What are your test numbers exactly? This will help in my suggesting to either get on TRT or not. I wouldn't run clen but if you are going to do it anyways then go with a low dose of 40mcg and work up from there. Make sure to only use it for 6 weeks. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.