Zambons for very first cycle?????? Experts reply

[punch]

My bud is telling me Zambons are great for first cycle, mild sides etc.... I am skeptical regarding that by itself. Wouldnt a stack of Deca, Winny be more beneficial first time out????

 

[Austrian]

Zambon = Winny, they make this stuff. and, no, Winny is by no account good for a first cycle. mild sides? it worsens your blood lipid profile, makes your joints dry, can let your hair fall out but does near to nothing in building muscle. some like to use it in a cutting cycle but its definitly no mass builder.
a stack of deca, test and dbol will bring you mass. for a first cycle, test only at 250mg every 5-7 days will bring you good gains. you can throw in some dbol for the first couple of weeks, 10-30mg ed.
or you take deca 200mg and test 250mg per week for a first cycle.

 

[punch]

thats what I thought. I guess my friend knows shit about the topic. I am glad I checked here first. Thats whats so beneficial about this site and I appreciate your straight forward reply.

 

[eastarr69]

It all depends on what you want from a first cycle....if you want mass, then no, but to tell you the truth, it is fine for a first cycle, i would definatelt throw in some test though...and i dont like deca for a first cycle...

and dont forget the ancillary drugs....and there are very few aas out there you will not get sides from anyhow...but with the proper anc's you can curb them...on aas you blood everything will be out of whack....

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[TheRide]

I think Winstrol (Zambon is a manufacture) works best when stacked with something that complements it. Such as Decca, EQ, Primobolan...

It dries the shit out of your joints, so I never do a long cycle of it For me after 4 to 6 weeks I really stiffen up. It also KILLS your HDL levels (been the victim of this too.... ) , and spikes your DHT levels (balding if your prone to it) . But I have had GREAT results w/it when stacked with Decca or EQ.

Another thing to remember that you got "virgin receptors" for your first cycle and I think that they are most responsive then.

For my 1st Cycle I kept it very simple....

EQ Weeks 1-10 - 400mg /week
Winny Weeks 6-10 EOD

I was happy w/the results

Another option would be to stack it with Primo or Decca for 8 weeks , BUT this will tend to rip you up rather then pack on size.

What ever route you go remember...

FEED THE SHIT!!!! Make sure you eat and LOTS OF PROTEIN!!!

 

[IronLion]

for your first cycle you should run test cypionate or enanthate at 500 mgs a week for 10 weeks use arimidex at .25 mg eod and following your last shot use hcg at 500 mg ed with novla at 20 mg ed for two weeks...thats it, keep it simple

 

[thelegacy]

zambons are friggin awesome--best winny out there--but i wouldnt use it for first cycle

 

[punch]

I have heard and read Zambons w/ a compliment product is often the best route rather then using it alone.

My goal is to pack on 10-15 lbs of muscle while limiting fat buildup as much as possible. I am currently 195 lb at approx 8-9 % bf. As I have said before I have been training for a " LONG " time and my lifts are great for all natural.

 

[Iceburg]

Winny only ??? Depends on your goals.

Right now im finishing up a solo run with winny, and I have never been happier with my phisique. Just in time for summer too.

But my goal wasn't to gain, just maintain and cut ... and winny does a great job at that. So it's really about what you a looking for.