You've convinced me never to do AS

[Pacesetter]

Where I come from (Australia) you would be an idiot buying from any peeps from this country.

But ordering from overseas! Like come on. Yeah I'm new to this board but I've hanged out at some others for a while. And of course we're all told that there are legit sources out there, but no one will dare relinquish any of their treasured held secrets, except of course **

And that's understandable. Because if there is such a thing as a "reliable online sources", the people who have access to these entreprenurial dealers don't want to jeaopardise their business and expose them to getting busted.

My advise would be to newbies, forget about using steroids. Any steroid that you purchase online, whether from a reliable prestigious manufacturer or from a backyard source carries the inherent risk of either being ripped off or having the substance tampered with. Remember that with many brand name steroids, you can only ever receive them from resellers, and you don't know what they have done with them.

I've searched several major boards and found some mods to be sincere and discrete. I've done an extensive search on ** and found gernally a very ambivalent response - especially from this board.

The accusations vented toward ** suggests to me what I always believed, and that is to continue training naturally and just live with the fact that genetic limitations will always frustrate my gains, but at least I will save my dollars and maintain the integrity of my health.

And after weight training for over 14 years, I can honestly say that bodybuilding offers a very healthy lifestyle, both physically and psychologically. But as many of you will discover, as I did from reading these such boards, the information is both speculative and inconsistent.

Why risk your health and bank account? Steroids would be great, but the sources that I have had access to are either rip offs or health hazards. And it doesn't matter whether they're big companies or small dealers.

Thanks for your time.

 

[plug1]

Luckily Im from the UK and its piss easy to get any type of shit here... There are plenty of good sources who will ship out from the UK mind with VERY good reps.

 

[Kool Keith]

www.steroidencyclopaedia.com

Problem solved.

 

[Maxx Out]

Where I come from (Australia) you would be an idiot buying from any peeps from this country.

But ordering from overseas! Like come on. Yeah I'm new to this board but I've hanged out at some others for a while. And of course we're all told that there are legit sources out there, but no one will dare relinquish any of their treasured held secrets, except of course **

And that's understandable. Because if there is such a thing as a "reliable online sources", the people who have access to these entreprenurial dealers don't want to jeaopardise their business and expose them to getting busted.

My advise would be to newbies, forget about using steroids. Any steroid that you purchase online, whether from a reliable prestigious manufacturer or from a backyard source carries the inherent risk of either being ripped off or having the substance tampered with. Remember that with many brand name steroids, you can only ever receive them from resellers, and you don't know what they have done with them.

I've searched several major boards and found some mods to be sincere and discrete. I've done an extensive search on ** and found gernally a very ambivalent response - especially from this board.

The accusations vented toward ** suggests to me what I always believed, and that is to continue training naturally and just live with the fact that genetic limitations will always frustrate my gains, but at least I will save my dollars and maintain the integrity of my health.

And after weight training for over 14 years, I can honestly say that bodybuilding offers a very healthy lifestyle, both physically and psychologically. But as many of you will discover, as I did from reading these such boards, the information is both speculative and inconsistent.

Why risk your health and bank account? Steroids would be great, but the sources that I have had access to are either rip offs or health hazards. And it doesn't matter whether they're big companies or small dealers.

Thanks for your time.

Sorry u feel that way. But beleive me they r not all scammers and they don't all sell bunk gear.

 

[Pacesetter]

Well I appreciate your responses.

www.steroidencyclopaedia.com Problem solved

Yeah I'm a member there too. The only problem there is that the one who sells reasonably priced Mex products doesn't ship to this country cos they are "bottles"!?

Yeah I've been around a bit.

Thanks again

 

[muscleup]

Re: Re: You've convinced me never to do AS

Sorry u feel that way. But beleive me they r not all scammers and they don't all sell bunk gear.

Like Maxx said, there are some Great sources out there......You just have to do your research and source checks......I literally check on sources for a couple months at a time before ordering......and remember kiddies always CHECK WITH THE MODS

 

[alien amp pharm]

Way back when I was searching for a source, I realized that there are a lot of people out there that will rip you off or sell counterfeit products. I don't understand how these people live with themselves. I came across so many dickheads that wanted an arm & a leg for gear. Sometimes you could even tell by the package the shit wasn't legit. I ended up taking matters into my own hands and finally researched bigtime, and found a legit/reasonable source. He has come thru every single time. Some people find sources easily, others may not; but everyone needs to do some research before hand and not just expect "give-outs" with no effort put forth.

 

[Pacesetter]

Sure alien I agree with what you say.

 

[projection]

I believe your country makes a fine product by Jurox, so whats the problem.

 

[Jeff_rys]

Pacesetter, one day you will change your mind and cross the line

quote you:
"And after weight training for over 14 years, I can honestly say that bodybuilding offers a very healthy lifestyle, both physically and psychologically."

True, but you forgot to add...."offers a very healthy lifestyle", but a unsatisfied one.

No one should use roids unless he wants it himself. Don't make my mistake by starting too late.

Jeff

 

[Jay Z]

I got ripped off too when i started out in this game..it's a risk you're willing to take.

 

[Thaibox]

I've been using international and domestic sources for about 3 years now, supplying several cycles for a couple friends and myself. I have saved hundreds of dollars. I have never been scammed. I have never had a seizure. I have always been given service better and more professional than that of your average retail store. Why have I had near flawless business experiences? Because I use my head.

I understand your points, but I will continue to use these means for as long as I can.

 

[plug1]

Hear Hear.

 

[Silent Method]

Pacesetter, I'm not going to argue with you. You obviously have valid reasons for your diecision not to do steroids.

You seem to be coming from a position that everyone here asd on other boards thinks steroids are mandatory for wieght training. That is absurd.

 

[plug1]

Hear Hear.

 

[Ulter]

Most AS sources I have run across in the last 19 years are honest. Lazy maybe but honest. But no one NEEDS AS to weight train so if you leave it out that’s your prerogative .
Tolerance is essential to everyone getting along and I practice it and hope you will too.
I don't eat meat, I don't drink alcohol. But I won't look at you any different if you sit across the table from me with a steak and a beer. So if I use AS and you don't I expect the same treatment of indifference.

 

[projection]

ulter, on a side note where do you derive all your protein from?

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

........Why risk your health and bank account? Steroids would be great, but the sources that I have had access to are either rip offs or health hazards. And it doesn't matter whether they're big companies or small dealers.

Thanks for your time.

This almost sounds like very coy, backhanded source post. I wouldn't doubt if your PM box gets a few scammers in there.

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

Ulter......kurde piwk aniepijesz nawet? Gdzie te Polskie geny?

 

[olympia4ever]

Sod that, in this case i have to agree with pace, however not enrirely...It appears to me from reading this board that some (not all) people have treated anabolic steroids very lightly. Particularly when i see 17-18 year old kids posting their results after their second cycle, and look awful. It has to be said, unfortuantely lots of people on this board want shortcuts, infact i doubt they will train for 14 years like pacesetter has. However that said, there are some serious minded and serious trainers that have joined this board, they make constructive criticisisms about steroids and steroid profiles, who advise people to train for at least 3 years before even considering taking the roids. We must not take anabolic steroids lightly, use but do not abbuse...and for a first time cycle for a 18 year old to be taking 500 sust 400 deca and 50 winny eod for 8 weeks...that is sure abbuse...all that i can see from some of the posts is that some people on here are not training for the pump, or the feeling, or the lifestyle, or the challenge, merely training because they want to improve their body looks, this is fine, but to do this anabolic steroids are not necessary. One does not need to use anabolic steroids in order to shed away 10 lbs of fat, or for a beginner to put on 20 lbs of muscle ... if that is your only goal (it seems that with some people it is) then there is no need for anabolic steroids, this can be achieved by diet training and rest. Anabolic steroids are a way of going past ones genetic potential, you dont see pro bodybuilders turning to roids at the age of 18. However there are those that have trained for good time and have weighed up the benefits with the inhabitions and have come to their decision, i willl be taking my first cycle in july after 3years of training (2 of which were real hard years). The only reason i will be taking steroids is because i want to compete in the u21 british title. I have planned out 4 cycles and when they will be taken aswell as diets and training programs, i am still scepticle about crossing the line. For me, anabolic steroids are a strong issue and i dont take them lightly. I have tried not to offfend any of the real trainers on here and dont want to upset any people that may have read this...but anabolic steroids are serious, they are not to be taken lightly, and it annoys me if people start defending them and chatting about them as if they were vitimins. (you dont see pro bodybuilders who are the diplomats of our sport boasting about the gains they made on a particular cycle or telling people their next cycle). By all means use them, if you need them to fullfill a goal you feel so strongly about. But think about the inhabitions aswell as the benifits, then weigh up the scales...if you do this properly you will probably find (as i did) that there is only a very small tilt in te scales going towards the direction you want to take.

 

[Ulter]

ulter, on a side note where do you derive all your protein from?

I use protein powders and I also eat seafood.