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Your Vote Doesnt't Matter
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javaguru
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"In US presidential elections, matters are complicated by our Electoral College. However, a study of the 2008 election, an election with about 130 million voters, shows that this 1/N estimate seems to hold roughly within an order of magnitude. Immediately prior to the 2008 presidential election, Andrew Gelman, Nate Silver, and Aaron Edlin (GSE), projected the odds of a single vote affecting that election.[3] Basing their forecasts on opinion polls immediately before the 2008 election, GSE estimated a one in 60 million chance of a randomly selected voter affecting the election. In their state-by-state forecasts, a single vote in New Mexico, New Hampshire, Colorado, or Virginia was most likely to matter, with an approximate one in 10 million chance of one vote in those states making a difference in the election. In Alaska, Hawaii, and the District of Columbia "the probability of a single vote being decisive is nearly zero.
Analysts who consider this issue often compare the chances of a vote making a difference in a national election to the odds of dying while driving on Election Day: it is more likely that you will die in a fatal accident than that your vote will be decisive. "
Analysts who consider this issue often compare the chances of a vote making a difference in a national election to the odds of dying while driving on Election Day: it is more likely that you will die in a fatal accident than that your vote will be decisive. "
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EarthRider
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cliff notes please or i'll choke betches in there sleep
javaguru
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I encourage people to read, critically evaluate and then respond. I gave you the stats breakdown in my quotes.
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EarthRider
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eh, i didn't really even care anyway
so how is the weather where you're at
it's 70's here is wisconsin, crazy
so how is the weather where you're at
it's 70's here is wisconsin, crazy
javaguru
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Yeah, that's the problem with most people; I was raised by two parents that lived through the progressive Great Depression and they instilled the values of self-dependence and personal responsibility.
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EarthRider
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i guess i feel like i work my ass off every day to help the things that i can change, and i don't give a shit about things i can't. what are you going to do to make a change in this shit bro, serious question
javaguru
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So, why do you send your tax dollars off to Washington where they take 10% and send the rest back to your state and pretend it's a gift? Hell, the seven richest counties in the United States are suburbs of DC.
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EarthRider
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so should i quit paying taxes, should i stomp my feet and be mad about it?
i asked you a question that you walked around. how are you going to bring change to any of this bull shit that bothers you.
I asked you how to bring change and so far you gave me nothing
i asked you a question that you walked around. how are you going to bring change to any of this bull shit that bothers you.
I asked you how to bring change and so far you gave me nothing
javaguru
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We're all serfs...
PICK3
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I'm pretty much a nihilist at this point
I'm knot sure our existence matters
just sayin'
javaguru
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I find it very freeing to realize that it doesn't matter.
Right. So it doesn't matter that I didn't vote in '08 and likely won't in '12
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EarthRider
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pretty much
