Your choice would be ?

[boxerjake]

Running my first tren cycle starting next week and would love some imput on how to structure it best .

Lets just say i have everything so the choices are all on the table

tren ace - tren enth- tren hex
test prop - test enth - test susp - sust 250

Being the first time out with tren should i go weekly with test enth and tren enth esters ? or go ED OR EOD with prop / ace or prop / hex ?

I'm also going to include 50mg winny ( drinking ) and 50 mg var as orals .

I'm looking at 6 weeks on the outside , so i want to get in hard and heavy then out fast ..... enth esters maybe a poor choice with this adjenda ? so my thoughts were more along the lines of prop throughout and ending with suspension the last week . The tren i need advise on


Stats for those who don't read my posts .... 5' 10 " 245 lbs 12% BF 42 years old , 20 plus years lifting with plenty of cycles

 

[ortiz34]

Running my first tren cycle starting next week and would love some imput on how to structure it best .

Lets just say i have everything so the choices are all on the table

tren ace - tren enth- tren hex
test prop - test enth - test susp - sust 250

Being the first time out with tren should i go weekly with test enth and tren enth esters ? or go ED OR EOD with prop / ace or prop / hex ?

I'm also going to include 50mg winny ( drinking ) and 50 mg var as orals .

I'm looking at 6 weeks on the outside , so i want to get in hard and heavy then out fast ..... enth esters maybe a poor choice with this adjenda ? so my thoughts were more along the lines of prop throughout and ending with suspension the last week . The tren i need advise on


Stats for those who don't read my posts .... 5' 10 " 245 lbs 12% BF 42 years old , 20 plus years lifting with plenty of cycles

No input because I have never run Tren so I don't want to be a parrot like so many here. Bumping for a good bro. Good luck

 

[MorganKane]

Long esters for a short cycle like that its not the best choice.

First time on Tren - use Tren A for sure.

Test Prop and Tren A is a great cycle.
Kicks in fast and gone fast if you have problems with sides.

Inject ED.

Start with Prop 75mg ED/Tren A 50mg ED.

 

[surferstar]

Running my first tren cycle starting next week and would love some imput on how to structure it best .

Lets just say i have everything so the choices are all on the table

tren ace - tren enth- tren hex
test prop - test enth - test susp - sust 250

Being the first time out with tren should i go weekly with test enth and tren enth esters ? or go ED OR EOD with prop / ace or prop / hex ?

I'm also going to include 50mg winny ( drinking ) and 50 mg var as orals .

I'm looking at 6 weeks on the outside , so i want to get in hard and heavy then out fast ..... enth esters maybe a poor choice with this adjenda ? so my thoughts were more along the lines of prop throughout and ending with suspension the last week . The tren i need advise on


Stats for those who don't read my posts .... 5' 10 " 245 lbs 12% BF 42 years old , 20 plus years lifting with plenty of cycles

If you don't mind the pokes than 100% Tren Ace/Prop ED!. no comparison.
BUt EOD is fine as well. I was doing it EOD for a while but now doing ED with Tren and i like the results better. Just IMO

 

[boxerjake]

Long esters for a short cycle like that its not the best choice.

First time on Tren - use Tren A for sure.

Test Prop and Tren A is a great cycle.
Kicks in fast and gone fast if you have problems with sides.

Inject ED.

Start with Prop 75mg ED/Tren A 50mg ED.

At my weight and experiance what about 100mg prop / parabolan 76mg ( hex ester ) ED

 

[MorganKane]

I did 100mg prop and 75mg Tren A for my last cycle.
Only side I really had was insomnia and it hit me on the first day.

I dont know Parabolan so I cant comment on that.

 

[cranny]

I would run the tren ace ED @ 50mg/day. It's a great compound for hardness IMO. Just watch for the dreaded tren gyno. But at least w/ ace if it does happen you can get off quick. That was my only issue w/ it. Loved it otherwise.

 

[boxerjake]

I would run the tren ace ED @ 50mg/day. It's a great compound for hardness IMO. Just watch for the dreaded tren gyno. But at least w/ ace if it does happen you can get off quick. That was my only issue w/ it. Loved it otherwise.

I have adex , letro , AIFM , nolv , clomid , aromasin all on hand to shoot down any test sides .

I have some bromo lurking in the drawer but the sides for me suck , are most of you using dostinex for the tren gyno ???

 

[drrman]

At my weight and experiance what about 100mg prop / parabolan 76mg ( hex ester ) ED

well you don't have to take the hex version ED or even EOD, you can take it twice/week if you want

i like hex the best i say, i get less sides from the hex than i did from the acetate i do know that

 

[boxerjake]

well you don't have to take the hex version ED or even EOD, you can take it twice/week if you want

i like hex the best i say, i get less sides from the hex than i did from the acetate i do know that

Twice a week at what dosage then ?

The hex i have on hand is 76mg as per the original parabolan mix strength

what would you suggest for a protocal ?

 

[swordfish151]

You can stick with enth and run tren ace...i love tren ace (on week 3 of 50mgs ED of it)...its just a matter of preference when it comes to the test...make sure you start your AI from day one and not wait till you get gyno symptoms..you'll be alot better off this way...i've run tren enth and ace..but not hex...i prefer ace

 

[jokerswild]

My first Tren cycle was with BD Tren Hex, ran it with Test and winny, there is no doubt you know when your on tren, its a feeling i can't explain, unfortunatly the winny crippled me and i had to cut the cycle short. As others have said if your just running six weeks you need short esters if it was me i might try this:

wks 1-6 100mg Prop ED
wks 1-6 100mg Tren A EOD
wks 1-6 50mg dbol Ed

I have a feeling you will see results....

 

[drrman]

Twice a week at what dosage then ?

The hex i have on hand is 76mg as per the original parabolan mix strength

what would you suggest for a protocal ?

yes, hex has a long half life almost identical to enanthate.

since its your first time with tren, i'd run it at 350mg/week or say 5 cc's week

thats a good dosage of the tren hex

it all comes down to if you want to run ED shots or not, i personally would choose the hex and enanthate or the longer acting esters, i react better and have less sides with those

 

[boxerjake]

My first Tren cycle was with BD Tren Hex, ran it with Test and winny, there is no doubt you know when your on tren, its a feeling i can't explain, unfortunatly the winny crippled me and i had to cut the cycle short. As others have said if your just running six weeks you need short esters if it was me i might try this:

wks 1-6 100mg Prop ED
wks 1-6 100mg Tren A EOD
wks 1-6 50mg dbol Ed

I have a feeling you will see results....

D-bol cripples my back ... i have 1000 or more pink tia's kicking around that i fear will never get used , same goes with drol . Thats why i was leaning towards the var instead .

Olny reason i'm throwing in the winny is because it's getting a little old so use it or toss it soon .

I really don't need to bulk on this cycle , remain the same weight but changing the ratio of lean muscle to BF would suit me fine .

 

[boxerjake]

yes, hex has a long half life almost identical to enanthate.

since its your first time with tren, i'd run it at 350mg/week or say 5 cc's week

thats a good dosage of the tren hex

it all comes down to if you want to run ED shots or not, i personally would choose the hex and enanthate or the longer acting esters, i react better and have less sides with those

Thanx " Doctor D " .... as always i value your opinion

 

[drrman]

i think you'll like the hex, lots say do acetate for your first time as if you get sides you can quit taking it and its out of your system quicker, but i honesly get less sides from the hex than i did the acetate

 

[rnch]

looking forward to hearing and seeing the results of this run, bj.

 

[instant.muscle]

first time using it, run ace like everyone said u can stop the sides sooner and most people think its more potent

 

[jagerbombme]

a good buddy of mine, who i went to hs with, has ran tren numerous times and has told me the acetate fucks with him big time, but never had any probs with the enanthate

 

[drrman]

first time using it, run ace like everyone said u can stop the sides sooner and most people think its more potent

it is in no way more potent, esther weight you may bet a few more mg but its negligible

and as i said, the sides from acetate are much worse than the sides from hex.....hell remember all the rave about the original parabolan....no one bitched from sides from it....because it was HEX!!