You guys will find this very interesting

[Pete D]

Here's the deal. I did a deca only cycle 4 months ago at 300-400mg/week for 10 weeks and gained 3 lbs.

I am now in my 7th week of my 2nd cycle of sustanon at 500/week and eq at 400/week and still nothing. I'm eating plenty and always trained hard. Been hitting the iron for 14 years and am 5'11" and 212 with about 13% fat or a little less, so I know what I am doing with the training.

I took my test level readings b4 the sust cycle and they were at 347. I just had them done again last week and they read 4,445!!! so therefore the shit I am taking is most definetly real.

I'ts me guys. I don't respond to AS. Can you believe this???
I have gained 4 lbs now in 7 weeks and it's fat. Believe me it's fat because my gut grew almost an inch.

SO NOW YOU CAN TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS THAT YOU KNOW A GUY ON THE BOARDS THAT DOESN'T GROW FROM AS.

Thought you'd never hear that? Well I'm living proof. I am cursed. I'm just going to stay clean and train hard and eat right. I have no choice. what can I say? Good luck to all you guys and I hope you all remain safe with the shit that is going on in this crazy ass world we live in.

 

[Nathan]

Hold on there cowboy. Not everyone responds to deca and sust. Maybe you just haven't found your poison yet. I wouldn't give up so soon. What is calorie intake like and how much protein? I'm sure there is someway to help ya out here.

 

[ironbarbarian]

MAN I AM SORRY TO HEAR THAT, HUM, YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON ON THE STUFF THAT DOSENT GROW FROM WHAT I KNOW, HOW MUCH WERE YA TAKING?

 

[Pete D]

Nathan,

Protein at 300/day. Total cals at 3800. I am getting fat!! My carbs are too high, at about 500/day. I need to bring them down to about 350/day but I was hesitating to do that because I am on a mass cycle and figured I needed to EAT. I am eating clean.

I have heard that some folks just don't respond to AS. And sustanon, COMO'N!!! I should of gained 15 lbs by now. THIS IS LIKE A NIGHTMARE!!!!

to tell you the truth I really don't feel all that bad now that I am watching the news. Those poor people, I pray for them.

 

[DrZaius]

People's responses to AS are strictly genetic and there are certainly some people who will not respond...But do not despair yet!
Try something a little milder such as Winny or Anavar. I personally have found that I respond much better to AS which are not as strong.
Good Luck

Peace
DrZ

 

[Nathan]

Up protein, lower carbs. Aim for 450g of protein for a bit over 2g/lb. What is your training program like? You could try takiong a week off as you might be overtrained. When was the last time you took time off? Next cycle, if you do another, try taking a week off right before you start. Hope some of this helps and I'm sorry dude, but you're right in saying that it could be worse.

 

[Nathan]

Oh, and it is possible that the increased waist size is just water retention in which case you should eat more. That could be the prob. It's tough to say but I do see quite a few possibilites, so don't give up.

 

[Pete D]

Thanks Nathan and Dr.Z.

Nathan, I will start that diet tomorrow and see what happens over the next 6 weeks. Peace.

 

[badazzwhitedude]

You still failed to mention how much protein you are taking in. Deca needs TONS of protein man. There are certain steroids that make more use of protein than others, and Deca is one of them. Among others that I know of are D-bol, Winny, and I believe Anavar (also with creatine).

 

[Future One]

This is just like my last cycle, I gained 7lbs of fat! and I also knew it was fat, no muscle gains. I suspected my stuff to be bunk, but from talking to people, it looks like I was mistaken, oh well...