yes i work at the gym so i see it all,this personal trainer tonite was telling this girl that she needed to do tricep pushdowns to get definition in her arms,i let him bullshit her then i walked over and said honey dont let that fool get you doing things that wont get you anywhere,i showed her a few exercises (skullcrushers/close grip) she thanked me and did those,then personal trainer bitch comes over and says what do those do and told her to go back to the pushdowns,she said that guy said these build arms,he started to laugh and comes over to me bitchy about his business,i said dont steal peoples money give them something in return bitch