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YOHIMBINE tips and tricks- V.2

damn I just had to get in on 1 of the 3million post on this thread, so did they make yohimbine mixed with a carrier and selling it yet? im too lazy to try to seach through that damn long ass post.
 
Alambrose,

glad that you are getting good results. While it is true that the results are more pronounced for most men when they are lean (this is due to the fact that most of the fat that is left is A2 rich).

However for women and for men with female fat storage patterns (chest, thighs, hips, triceps) it will be as effective regardless of bodyfat. Even for men without a great deal of "female" fat it will be effective- however it may not be as VISIBLY pronounced at higher bodyfat levels.
 
I was one of the first to use YHCL and post results and i do believe its a great product. It is also true that it should be used by BB that have decent BF%, i would say at least 12%. But now that i have school and work i can't get to the gym as much, and i would like to add..

Since YHCL loses fat in those "last few places" I have noticed that where it comes back "first". So my advice would be to stay at it, and keep the diet strict, bc if not you will gain in back in all those places that you work so hard to keep it off.(love handles, lower back, etc.) Just a word of advice...

M56M
 
M65M has a very good point that SOME stubborn fat will return if you dont eat and exercise properly. THOUGH how it returns and how much will depend on a host of factors.

Say for instance that you have chest fat that you aquired during puberty or a heavy aromatic cycle- UNLESS you still have high estrogen levels it is LESS likely to return here. With love handles and lower ab fat it really varies- depending on A2 density and current estrogen levels.

Of course, relatively low body fat levels will be easier to maintain with less fat which is the source of much estrogen in men.

peace
 
well it seems to be working actually... too soon to tell for sure but damn i like the way it feels (masochist in me coming out i guess). I have to give you some credit on this one macro... i've seen a difference in the 2 weeks i have tried it... i'm gonna try it 4 days on and then 3 days of something like dandelion or taraxatone and see what it does by next monday too. I got a buddy who has extremely estrogenic fat patterns may buy him a bottle of it too after all he's been the only workout partner i have ever had that has kept at it. he's lost 90 lbs so far down from 370 to 280, and he has mondo excess skin... think it'll help with that at all?


Rich
 
mac... exactly how targeted is topical yohimbine?

The reason I ask is because of abdominal surgery I had leaving one side of my stomach with SLIGHTLY more fat than the other, could application even out the variance?

in awe as always,
Puc
 
PUC,

it really depends- if the fat is A2 laden then yes localized fat loss will be pronounced.

did the fat come from inactivity on that side?
what is the feel/texture of the fat?
is the the feel/texture the same as the other side?
are there other factors at play here?

need more info really to give you a good projection of success...

peace
 
I'm on my 5th day of yohimburn and starting to see some results on some stubborn chest fat.... Can't wait to see how it looks when I finish the bottle... So a here's a bump for the best thread ever...:p
 
OK...I keep seeing that yohimburn will work better for people with lower bodyfat......understandable.....but when everyone says lower bf %.....like how low are you referring to...under 10%?...12..15?

whats the highest bf% it would be effective at...for a mojority of people?..

thanks

h19

right now i am about 10% id say...and am about to get some.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
PUC,

it really depends- if the fat is A2 laden then yes localized fat loss will be pronounced.

did the fat come from inactivity on that side?
what is the feel/texture of the fat?
is the the feel/texture the same as the other side?
are there other factors at play here?

need more info really to give you a good projection of success...

peace
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I had abdomnoplasty done to remove about 4 inches of skin from my stomach (leftover from weight loss). As part of the procedure, some lyposuction is done. My surgeon apparently just took a little more fat from one side than the other ( I am told this is not uncommon). There is virtually no fat on my abdomen left-of-navel and just enough to "pinch an inch" on the right side.

SO, it is equalization I desire.

I am currently running EQ at 100mg EOD (my first cycle and yes I am a no-test-cause-I-fear-hairloss pussy) and am considering using DNP (I have used several times in the past) to cut up at the end of my cycle. I am thinking of using yohimbine on my abdomen right-of-navel at this time.

fatty tissue on my body has always been VERY loose and resembled the fat deposists on my mother more then my father (who has harder fat). I have female fat storage patterns, as well. I don't know how to judge the estrogenic nature of fat beyond that.
 
hamper19 said:
OK...I keep seeing that yohimburn will work better for people with lower bodyfat......understandable.....but when everyone says lower bf %.....like how low are you referring to...under 10%?...12..15?

whats the highest bf% it would be effective at...for a mojority of people?..

thanks

h19

right now i am about 10% id say...and am about to get some.
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I'm now around 13% on a bulking diet and do NOT recommend doing it this way; I have had no results the last few weeks.

HOWEVER, back when I was at 11% and doing cardio every day (cutting), it worked AMAZINGLY well.

I will not touch it as long as I'm bulking and will save it for cutting to make the results even more dramatic.
 
Puc,

that seems like a situation where topical yohimbine use would provide great benefits. One cannot be absolutely sure, but it is VERY highly probable that you have high A2 density in that area- especially from the description.

Daman,
Yohimbine while bulking seems to have varying efficacy- some have good results but some dont. There are several factors that are very important including drugs used(aromatics, progestins,etc) macronutrient ratios, individual insulin sensitivity...etc.. when I get some time perhaps a table can be layed out to help determine individual potential for use during bulking (as well as ways to maximize yohimbine benefits) Based on science and as always anecdotal reports.. So any details of your individual bulking efforts- diet, drugs, female fat before (areas) etc would be beneficial to help determine what tinkering could be done with you and to help others as well.

BUT yohimbine and most other adrenergic fat burners will be most effective when dieting (maintainance falls close to this category)
 
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hey MP i would also like a Table

that would help using Yohi during bulking
phase like what you said to " Daman,
Yohimbine while bulking seems to have varying efficacy- some have good results but some dont. There are several factors that are very important including drugs used(aromatics, progestins,etc) macronutrient ratios, individual insulin sensitivity...etc.. when I get some time perhaps a table can be layed out to help determine individual potential for use during bulking (as well as ways to maximize yohimbine benefits) Based on science and as always anecdotal reports.. So any details of your individual bulking efforts- diet, drugs, female fat before (areas) etc would be beneficial to help determine what tinkering could be done with you and to help others as well.

BUT yohimbine and most other adrenergic fat burners will be most effective when dieting (maintainance falls close to this category)

my diet is balanced meals 40/40/20, no drugs, my female area's are same as a lady everything under my waist all the way down.

thanks mp you can put it hear if you want .
 
what i dont understand is at AF 2400mg of HCL powder is 55 bucks, but you can get the premixed Yohimburn that has 3100mg for 36 bucks.... that seems like wierd pricing. maybe i am just misreading something

edit:
I see the $36 buck one is only 2oz, so 1550mg
 
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Hi,

I have been reading the updates to this thread and all the other ones related to Yohimburn and I am now convinced to try it.

I just have a few questions, though...

You apply the Yohimburn and it releases the fat from the stubborn fat cells. Now, what if you don't burn up all the released fat... would it get transferred to a different area? Say you apply it on the lower abs... would some of the fat get transferred to the breasts for example?

Also, is it better to apply small amounts like 40mg once a day every day, or bigger amounts say 3 days on 1 day off?

And last one... is a ketogenic diet the best diet to be on while applying Yohimburn or any diet would do?

I hope I get the answers to my questions soon, so that I can start using the Yohimburn sooner :)

Thanks guys
 
Millie,

No fat wont migrate. Yohimbine will increase local lipolysis (fat burning)- it does not so much "release" the fat as make it available for use as energy.

best dosing schedule is very individual though twice a day dosing is the norm- whether you take days off is up to you (less water retention and less systemic buildup- thus with higher doses days off are reccomended)

Not a fan of ketogenic(like carbs), but people have reported good results with yohimbine and keto
 
Thanks guys

Thanks for all the info and the quick response by both of you.

And also thanks for the welcome, ulter :) I consider myself an Elite Forums lurker... I read the board every day, but post only when I have questions :)

Now, I am off to order Yohimburn... I promise to post my results.

Thanks again :)
 
Macro....So I was gonna take Yohimbine along with my cycle and Liquidex, will the liquidex keep from the water retention the yohimbine causes> thanks bro

_SOLID
 
Iwan2bsolid,

The addition of liquidex, which is IMHO an essential element of any aromatic cycle (test/dbol), will help with water retention to some degree(it will help immensely with normal water retention). However, the method by which yohimbine increases water retention is not well understood, though anecdotal reports of those using yohimbine and liquidex have shown some decrease in water retention.

peace
 
Wow, thanks MAC. So it is a really noticeable water retention huh...would you say like that of creatine does? thanks alot

_SOLID
 
water retention really varies A LOT- some actually lose water. It really depends, but the retention is not site specific it is systemic. With heavier frequent doses the water retention is more noticable, at least for most. As to What kind of water retention(how it comapres to creatine or AS), you really have to see for yourself- It varies much like creatine or AS.
 
okay... I ordered my bottle, principally based on your erudition on the matter... one more question, can anything be done to reduce water retention (preparation h, perhaps)?
 
Puc,

Water retention is not localized. So prep H wont help. However, the yohimburn solution itself, does seem to minimize water- probably due to its high l-menthol content.

Water retention will vary, for some it will act as a diuretic. The best way to minimize water is the 3-4 on / 1-2 off pattern.


peace
 
are you guys using your bare hands to apply the solution or are you using rubber gloves so none of the solution soaks into your hands?
 
BDD,

Bare hands are fine- you will absorb some through hands. USE FINGERTIPS WHEN POSSIBLE- though with lower back admin this can be difficult :p

gloves will work but
a. its one more step
b. it is a little harder to rub in
c. some will end up on gloves anyway

btw- WASH HANDS THOUROUGHLY AFTER, wait a couple of minutes after application then wash-
peppermint oil residue on hands and working out with weights or on equipment is rather slimey, especially once you start to sweat.
 
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Man o Man!!! Got my Yohimburn today. I will post my results this stuff. Macro, U da man!!! Is Yohimburn your product? (MP Technologies?) I tried it this morning and I can feel the heat from this stuff I hope this works for me!
 
i get my water retention in my gut mainly... i use it m-th and then take fri sat sun off, last weekend i tried using some taraxatone, but i think that stuff just sucks or needs a while to kick in, either way by the next monday i can tell differences... nothing earth shattering or anything, but enough to make me happy with the purchase.


Rich
 
Macro

Sup guys I just got mine today as well. It kinda freaked me out that there was no seal or anything on it, but i wanna start it asap..can someone repost how much to use in a certain area- for instance > chest and how many Xdaily can you apply, and do you still recomend the 3 on 2 day off regimen? Is a good time right before bed? Thanks


_SOLID
 
bubba,
Norephedrine Caffiene Yohimbine

Yes but it is inadvisable.


Iwan2bsolid,
dosage varies, Start with a quarter pippette- it really is an individual comfort/tolerance issue. The quarter pippette is the TEST dose- you will (most likely) want to increase the dosage. Most people take 2-3 quarter pippette draws per application- but sensitivity varies - Which is why the starting dose is a quarter pippette.
 
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MACRO really... only a quater?

so if I was gonna use on both side of chest and love handles i'd try to split the quater pipette over all area's?
 
ok sol u use a 1/4 pippette for each site...ie..1/4 for left pec...1/4 for right....1/4 for left luv handle..1/4 for right.

also, what kind of results could one expect without exercise.....only dieting

I might have to take an extended break...possible hernia operation...so im wondering if it would still be useful to use while pretty much idle, very little cario etc. Will ahve a real clean diet though

h19
 
How are they going to do the repair of your hernia? I had to stop yohimburn when I had mine done because it was laparoscopic and I had three holes in my stomach and that's where I was using it. Your stomach will be all swollen for 8 weeks so you wouldn't know if it was working or not anyway. 1/4 pipette covers my entire ab and ob region so unless you have a 66" chest I would say you don't need that much per pec. If you do have a 66" chest then excuse the post and please post your chest routine. :)


WWW.ANABOLICFITNESS.NET
 
im actually not sure what the deal is if i have hernia or not....i am getting it checked this saturday....i went for a physical about 6 months ago and the doc said i had a slight one..but for the past couple weeks my nuts were hurting..seriously....i had to start wearing my boxer briefs extra tight....to get that added support..lol...my girl was giving me head the other day and it was NOT COOl.....i had to stop her...the shit hurt so bad....i have no lumps on my nuts so im pretty sure its not testicular cancer or anything of that sort.....the left side of the area right above my shaft is like swollen on the left side...it is sticking out further on that side.....i thought hernia would be higher but who knows..thats what the doc is for..

about the chest...i only wish i had a 66 inch chest...but at 5'6, that would look way to wierd....almost superhero like..

UTLER, what were your symptoms when u had the hernia? Did your nuts ache real bad or what.

h19
 
Hamper19,

results will be limited with diet only(though if you have VERY high A2 levels results will still be noticeable). Cardio and/or lifting are needed for best results.

AND

dieting and no exercise= muscle catabolism.

you dont have to do cardio(though if you can... do), but any lifting that is allowed is reccomended.

btw- hope that you dont have a hernia.
 
Alright I tried it for the first time today at around 5:00P.m., I felt good, nice burn to it. I only used a 1/4 pipette for all> left pec, right pec, and love handles. Well now it's 10:00 p.m. and I just put on second dose, how many times a day do you guys dose? Have you found better results with 3or4 day on 1 off, any new words of wisdom Macro? Would it be a waste to use more than a 1/4 pipette?


thanks_SOLID
 
Iwan2bsolid2,

a 1/4 pippete is the TEST DOSAGE- the one that is tolerated well by virtually everyone. You CAN use more (how much will depend on your tolerance). Days off are needed with higher doses (for systemic buildup) or to minimize water retention- plus some people just FEEL better with a 3-4on 1-2off pattern- though a lot of people like everyday dosing as well... its individual.

Dosing- 1-3 times a day more frequent dosing= less dose per application

is more than a 1/4 pippette per app. a waste?
NO
 
Mac, been thinking of switching from fina orally to transdermaly. Could it be mixed with Yohimburn, or do i need a better transdermal, like phlogel, DMSO or Emu oil or something? Turn this fucker into a cutting cycle!
 
Iwan2bsolid2,
chills, headache, tired... discovering tolerance and comfort zone is a process, but pretty easy.... just dont over do it(raise dosages too quickly)- because effects can last an hour or two (though usually 20-40min.

Bigrand,

Email
 
Cool, I just joined the club, I'm going to stack NYC (2 bottles) and Yohimburn (1 bottle) until I run out in preparation for a dbol/deca/sust cycle later this winter. I think I have A2 receptor fat left on my abs and chest because my legs are rock solid (not huge but hard) as well as my arms are lean.

Damn it burns and it smells like Vicks vaporrub or Thai Balm. Cool. I'll post results as well in 2-4 weeks time.

Peace!
 
Thanks again Macro!

I upped the dosage about 1/4 pipette each pec now it's burning! but feels good man, I swear it's working:p I'll let ya know it's way too early to tell.
 
Dude no joke this shit works, i just hope it can keep burning off the fat till it's all gone. Macro you say 4 on 2 off is cool huh. Oh, I also haven't noticed any water retention...I am gettin pretty shredded. ;)

_SOLID
 
Iwan2bsolid2,

3-4on 1-2off
is a
"reccomendation"
the main purpose of which is to minimize systemic buildup and water retention (plus some people just generally feel better on this pattern)

HOWEVER- many stay on straight taking on day off a week or not at all- though with higher dosages MOST follow the 3-4on 1-2off.
 
Macro- thanks. What's considered a high dosage, pipette wise?
1/4 > 1/2 > 3/4 > 1whole(pipette).

Thanks bud

_SOLID
 
Fuck it, ima stay on all the time! Im gonna use it while on cycle along with anti-Es and fina and test and Anavar. Fuck the fat now!
120mg fina daily mixed with the Y should suffice. Unless menthol+acetate=shit.
Mac, you got mail!
 
Iwan2bsolid2,

What is a high dosage??? It is all individual- based on NE tolerance, NE sensitivty, thickness of skin, area of application---- these things vary a lot... for instance 150mg a day is a REGULAR dosage for some for others it is a high to very high dosage.

How do you determine what a high dosage is? increase dosage until you start to feel some of the unpleasant side effects (chills, tiredness, headache). then take about 20% less.


1/4 pippette is apprx .7ml
each ml contains apprx 30mg
1/4 pippette contains apprx 20-22mg of yohimbine hcl



Bigrand,
looking into menthol/acetate interactions(in purely theoretical manner) as of yet no adverse interactions, but will keep you apprised.
 
shit in that case if 1/4 pipette contains about 20mg, then I've been using 210+mg p/day, with no sides.

thanks for the reply...
I bet you've answered that question a hundred X's..sorry.


Appreciated though._SOLID:D
 
Iwan2bsolid2,
which size bottle are you using?
the pippettes are different sizes-
plus bulb ratio to pippette are not the same
the pippette measurement above are for the 4oz bottle.
 
Macro

this thread will never stop...it takes forever to load now....anyway's i got the big bottle...today's my day off, went 4 on, going 1-2 off, can't wait to start again.


Lata_SOLID
 
I think it's just you and me now Mac?

Anyways I just got some Liquidex in the mail today so I'm gonna stack that with the Yohimburn along with my gear;) . I took my first dose of Liquidex tonight and start back on Yohimburn tommorrow so I'll keep posting on my results.

BTW- how's SD? Have I already asked you that? I used to live in Pacific beach, god I miss it. Anyways have you heard anything bout the Mex border and if things are crazy? I'm planning on taking a trip down on Fri. Well peace my So-Cal neighbor.



_SOLID
 
Iwan2bsolid2,

border is slow (1-3hr but can be faster), PB is quiet (but nice :) ).

Liquidex is a good addition to any stack- or even for use off cycle to minimize estrogen (especially if you have higher natural levels of aromatase)
 
Ok...I found out I did have a hernia, but its not that bad the surgeon said...I have to go back next week for a follow up. This mother fucker pushed my shit back in manually or something...i never had pain like that...and I never knew you could reach your stomach through your nut sac...no lie thats what he did....2 fingers like into my sac up into my lower abdomen...hes like...you fell that.....fuckin bastard.....so no operation i dont think...good news..now i can get my fat ass up and move while on the yohimburn.....
Im gonna do it to prep for my

CYP/FINA/Winny cycle...well see what happens with that
peace
this post is da shit

h19
 
sorry bout the hernia...that'll sure put a hamper on things...hope you get better.

Macro, what do you recommend for taking the Liquidex off cycle, ED or EOD? and how much> .25mg-.5mg?


thanks broski


_SOLID
 
AHA!!! sneaking over here to post are we, Iwan2bsolid2?!? Didnt think my opinion was good enough eh? just had to go ask macro - what does he know anyway? ;) :rolleyes: :D
 
HAHA- CYC - what you doin over here? **No when I PM'd you, I never got a answer back, so I just wanted to be sure and I didn't want to bug you....Bro I trust you like my father:beer:




_SOLID
 
oops - sorry bout that, im having to answer all the hotties PMing me :D :p - anyway, its always good to crack ol macro's head open and peer inside once and awhile, you can learn something for sure!
 
another little tip (one that has been covered before- but is important so warrants reminding)


after application any time from 15min to 1hr(even longer if you so choose- try a couple different times to see the difference), you can wet hands and rub area of application again- this will increase uptake.
 
IMPORTANT NOTE:

the importance of cleaning and scrubbing the sites of administration(preferably with a good exfoliant) cannot be over emphasized- while this does not have to occur immeadiately prior to admin. It should be done frequently ED or EOD as "dead skin" on the surface will interfere with uptake.
 
ulter said:
I think Paul needs to spend a little more time at Medline. There are many studies about Yohimbine and Fat loss that he didn't list. I don't know about it raising your test level though. I wouldn't be surprised by this because yohimbine will make you sport some hard wood.
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Has nothing to do with testosterone. It is due to vasodilation.

ParDeus
 
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