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YOHIMBINE tips and tricks- V.2

I've been doing it nonstop for several weeks, 60mg/application, and haven't felt any sides at all. when i came off, despite two days of pizza, i just thought HOLY FUCKING SHIT. it's a 5-pack!!! (a 4-pack and two halfway-popping-out abs at the bottom for a total of 5).

and i'm going to continue it nonstop thruout my cycle so that i can see all effects at once when i come off... is there any other reason i shouldn't do it since i don't feel sides?

btw macro, u have mail.
 
Daman,

It really depends on your dosage and your individual tolerance for high levels of NE. 60mg is obviously a good dose for you at which build up is minimal- So in your case entended use at that dosage is reasonable. Just curious how you compare the topical solution with the previous use of aspercreme?

the 3-5 days on 1-2 days off is a reccomendation, which is based on dosing that is at the upper limits of tolerance. with lower doses (WHICH ARE EFFECTIVE) this is not as necessary. SOME people even at high doses do not need breaks it is just a general reccomendation... based upon personal and anecdotal experiences with extended heavy use.
 
LOVE the premix vs. aspercreme. Aspercreme was a mess, my hands got all powdery and clumpy and it took me minutes to do, the solution ROCKS.

Aside from that I think it also works better - my abs are DEFINITELY harder since I started taking it (when was that, like 2 weeks ago?), though I also started drinking lots more water and changed my workout around, so I dunno who to thank...

But I have no intention to stop using the mix for a while, so THANKS!
 
In Canada and tablets?

Didn't I just respond to the same post on Mesomorph?
anyway, I'll post again here. Hopefully there are different people here.

I am Canadian,
:beer:
but only was able to get it throught a prescription.
Anyway, I have a prescription for 5.4 mg tablets.
So, would I take internally (with water) or disolve one under my tongue OR if I wanted to apply topically would I just try to crush it up and if so how much?
Thanks for any answers.

MusclGrl
 
Macro...Questions for ya

• Is forskolin a thyriod booster or a thermogenic fat burning againt?

• Can I take forskolin orally. If so which is better?

• Is it Rx or can I buy it at a supp store?

• What are the side effedts and what can I or can't I stack it with.

If you mentioned this info less where just guide me to it...

THANKS!
 
Buldog,
Hamper 19,

The pre-mix solution reffered to in this thread can be found on AF...YOHIMBURN which contains yohimbine hcl from the USA that conforms to USP24/NF19- pharmaceutical grade-

Lipoderm is a completely different product which contains yohimbine from china and contains alcohol and some caustic and uneccessary penetration enhancers.
 
Buld0g said:
Macro...Questions for ya

• Is forskolin a thyriod booster or a thermogenic fat burning againt? IT INCREASES CYCLIC AMP LEVELS- IT THEORETICALLY IMPROVES FAT BURNING

• Can I take forskolin orally. If so which is better? YES- NOT COMPLETELY SURE THAT IT IS FEASIBLE FOR TOPICAL APPLICATION-

• Is it Rx or can I buy it at a supp store? SUPPLEMENT STORE- BUT IT IS EXPENSIVE

• What are the side effedts and what can I or can't I stack it with. NO REAL SIDE EFFECT- OTHER THAN HIGHER C AMP LEVELS

If you mentioned this info less where just guide me to it...

THANKS!
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PEACE
 
yohi mannnn

so mp that got me to thinking thats another good reason i use the CASAICIN..... cause you said doing the yohi topical causes some water retention , but not if you use this strong ass shit .....CASAICIN cause it is a great
diuretic so you see the results almost every day ....man know i dont feel so bad paying what i do for this burning action of CASAICIN what a combo and im speaking of my experiance and the results i am getting
 
YOHI ALL THE TIME

hey growin it is called ZOSTRIX but be careful there is .025 mg and high pootency .075 i dilute the .025 in water all ready but that is also cause i use in a sensitive area my inner thighs
 
MP's Special Carrier

Been using it for about 2 weeks. Have visable viens in my stomach, abs are nice and tight. Definitely have no complaints, actually worked alot better than i expected. No sides, and i don't seem to be holding water from the YHCL. Applying 2 times daily, once in the morning and once before the gym in the evening. All in all, i would definitely invest in YHCL and the carrier too. Good Luck to all the bros who give it a try.

M56M
 
M56M,

Glad to hear that you are getting good results with the Special Delivery Solution. Did you add the yohimbine hcl powder to it or are you using it separately with each individual application?
Just curious

peace
 
macrophage69alpha said:
M56M,

Glad to hear that you are getting good results with the Special Delivery Solution. Did you add the yohimbine hcl powder to it or are you using it separately with each individual application?
Just curious

peace
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I have them seperated, then i mix them before each application. i just like know exactly how much i am applying each time.

I have also beening putting it on my pecs, and i have to say it works very good there to. I was a little afraid i had gyno, bc i only had a little fat on my pecs and love handles. But with the YHCL its all gone on the pecs and my midsection is very tight.( i am also on a strict diet, but no cardio). I also tried Cutting Gel, and this combo puts it to complete shame.

M56M
 
M56M,

Glad that the solution has made application easier(hopefully more effective) and that yohimbine hcl is giving you the results you were looking for.

peace
 
macrophage69alpha said:
M56M,

Glad that the solution has made application easier(hopefully more effective) and that yohimbine hcl is giving you the results you were looking for.

peace
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Thanks alot bro and thanks for letting me test it out. Definitely been fun..

M56M
 
Availability of yohimbine hcl powder:

Yohimbine hcl USP-- one online store sells USP 24/ NF 19 powder for topical use - meaning that it meets the standards for use in pharmaceuticals and cosmetics in the United States.

Several companies make tablets (or capsules) with yohimbine hcl (Presumptively this is USP grade, however USP is not required for dietary supplements) though the maxium allowable by law is 3mg- if pills claim to have more.....

Yohimbine hcl???- that may or may not meet USP standards(which means that it MAY contain toxic impurities) is available for research purposes- 2 internet entities (that I know of) sell with no documentation (but the price is 20-25$ a gram). This may or may not be suitable for topical use depending on the fineness of material- research grade is seldom fine enough. Additionally, it may(stressing may) be obtained from chemical supply houses for research. However, you have to have a legitmate company or research address... some of the smaller houses (which charge more) may let this slide. The only problem is that most of them take credit cards and require that you sign a legal document saying that you are a researcher and that chemical is for research. Though odds are against them shipping as many of the smaller supply houses have been shut down for lax documentation--though more for sale of other chemicals than yohimbine. IT IS LEGAL TO ORDER YOHIMBINE (though ordering amounts of over 5g for personal use is a Grey Area)- IT IS NOT HOWEVER LEGAL TO CLAIM TO BE A RESEARCHER AND ORDER YOHIMBINE... like with most chemicals buying bulk is restricted to companies or research institutions.

peace
 
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I want to give this thread a megabump.

Since starting to use this shit my abs have FINALLY started to show, and I thought it would NEVER happen, no matter how good diet & cardio, there was always that last fucking 1.5 inches (which is now down to 1 inch and dropping).

So today during my tae bo class (I do it for motivation cuz I'm the only straight guy there, so anyone who has anything to say GO TO HELL :)) I decided to wipe my face with the bottom of my t-shirt, naturally flexing while I did :), and when I put it down I caught - and I kid you not - a VERY well known playboy centerfold checking me out. And it was a good smile, and not one of those pity smiles.

Just wanted to share that with you AF/ulter/macro-bashing people; I don't give a fuck whether or not they are making 99% profit off this stuff, all I know is that it works and I'm happy and they have one more loyal customer and I have NO reason to try out cutting gel or lipoderm or indian bulk raw pharmaceuticals or anything to try to save a few bucks at the risk of finding out it doesn't work.

L8R.

PS - Macro... u *still* have mail... :nighty:
 
Hey Macro,
AF's new product Yohimburn....Can you apply this a couple times a day....... say like 3, rotating the application site?

bass
 
I ordered Yohimburn™ two days ago for a two day rush and it's four days later and still no Yohimburn™. I have ordered from Anobolic Fitness.com in the passed and had no problems but this time I'm worried. Could some one help me? Maybe Macro could check my order?
 
Note/Reminder:
although yohimbine can be taken every day- to avoid systemic build up (the 11-oh metabolite of yohimbine has a 6hr half life) it is important for most to use a 3-5day on 1-2 day off pattern. This pattern will also help with water retention. For some increasing pottasium will help with water retention as well- though oddly in others the addition of pottasium will INCREASE water retention- though for most it will decrease water.
 
:p
water retention questions are the ones that I get most frequently.

1. water retention occurs in most(though with leaner people it is less)

2. water retention can last as little as 1-2 days or a long as 2 weeks (though the latter is with heavy extended use)

3. cardio helps A LOT with water retention, though make sure to keep pottasium intake up.

4. menthol containin product may help with water retention, some people have gotten good results with the addition of capsicum (cayenne extract)

peace
 
due to the nature of the ingredients- which were compiled for maximum benefit with minimum adverse effect
(the omission of isopropyl alcohol which would have allowed gelling but is however also VERY systemically toxic----- especially with good carriers and penetration enhancers).

what does all this mean?

SHAKE WELL!!!!!!!!
 
the yohimbine app. fuel is like a godsent :) seriously, i feel an intense tingling sensation 5 mins after application. i smell like a damn candy cane for a lil bit, but nothing to bitch about :) i started with ben gay, didnt do shit for me... then aspercreme, still nuttin. the app. fuel is awesome. it takes 2 secs to apply, and its virtually dry as soon as it hits your skin. ive been using yohimbine now for about 4 1/2 weeks, the fuel for about 2 now, in a 3 day on 1 off fashion. i havent even taken my 2 weeks off yet and i have lost 1 1/2 in. on my waist, 1 in on the hips/lower abs, and approx. 3/4 in on my triceps and inner thighs. ill give another evaluation when im done with my off time. ive used this in conjunction with a clen/ECA cycle. and dont really see anymore results of the yohim. with either or. but i certainly feel "better" in general on the clen, not so strung out.

thanks alot macro :p

jessyca =P~
 
Does anyone really know if a product like "Yohimburn" may possibly help reduce a super mild case of gyno...(basically just a small lump below the nipple)....I may try a trail size regardless just to see if I have any results from it.
 
It is unlikely to reduce hard tissue mass directly, however it will reduce fatty tissue- which in turn will reduce site aromatization which may help reduce hard tissue over time.

For reduction of hard and soft tissue- stacking arimidex and yohimbine is very beneficial-
 
I just got my Yohimburn and if it works as good as it smells I am going to love this stuff.
It's like fat loss and aromatherapy all in one.
 
:p peppermint :p

When using peppermint/menthol solutions, like the one mentioned above, use caution (dont put face right up to site)when smelling/looking at application site as their are typically strong vapors.
 
i smell like a damn candy cane for a lil bit
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Ha ha...I couldn't pin point the smell untill you said that. I smell like I just had sex with 8 christmas elves while Santa Clause's wife was rubbing her ass on my stomach :D
 
Just wondering if it's allright to use yhcl in conjunction with my test dbol cycle or wait till afterwards to start cutting more. Or use now and after the cycle? It feels all tingly on me nipps and luv handles me likey. Thanks for any info.
 
I thought when I got mine I would wait for cutting too. But then it was sitting there so I firgured I would try it. I'm hooked, I love this stuff and I may just use it year-round. The cold burn kicks ass.
 
I would suggest you try the Yohimburn next time instead of getting the the flexall and mixing it all up yourself. If you add a good Nor-E-Caffeine-yohimbine tab instead of your Ephedrine you won't get your head messed up either. They used to sell them here but I don't see them anymore.
 
info on individual experiences makes it easier for others to anticipate dosages, sides and results.
keep them coming:p

appetite suppression :p
at what dosage is it TOO much :p
sleepy or sleeplessness :p
sweating :p
water retention :p
areas of best results :p
water loss (diuresis) :p
etc :p

thanks to those who have put the time in to help others in deciding whether yohimbine is a good option for them and what to expect.

peace
 
yohi carrier

hey mac is there a new version of the MAC CARRIER yet
cause i am really noticing a difference since i got it from you, it's good even without the CAPSAICIN CREAM, IT'S WORKING REALLY WELL ON MY GIRL FRIEND TOO.
 
I have been using Yohim-burn since Monday. I already feel tighter in my chest and abs. More so in the chest, less fat to begin with I guess. I am using this with MD6 at the moment. One more week of MD6 and I'll be on clen again. Yeah!
 
Raider,
the capsicum product is still in development. Still working out sensitivity issues, capsicum can be too "hot" for some- in addition still determining whether it is actually necessary for improved effect ( with special attention to local water retention issues). Will keep you apprised. " :p field :p " tests may begin in a couple of weeks.
 
The main reason I bought this stuff was to see if it could possibly shrink a small "hard" lump under my left nipple (yep...gyno) that I acquired from my last cycle. The lump was fairly small and not noticeable to anyone but myself of course...although my nipple area was quite sensitive still (it really hurt when I would massage the area).

I had been off of steroids and Clomid for about two months before I started "Yohimburn"... I have only been on this stuff for 4 days now...I have almost no nip sensitivity and I am 100% positive that the lump is shrinking, the gyno is about half the size as before...what I am wondering is will the results continue, will the gyno come back if I stop, will I get laid soon?? Who knows, only time will tell, but so far I am freaking impressed beyond belief.

Yohimburn is da bomb.
 
Yohimbine will definitely reduce fatty mass- it may play a role, perhaps indirectly, in reducing hard tissue gyno.

glad to hear you are getting good results.
 
Crumbcake,

Yohimbine, in addition to being a great fat "burner", does have Pro-"sexual" effects. It is the only drug, prior to viagra, approved by the FDA for the treatment of impotence. It works by increading blood flow to the lower body- where there are typically high concentrations of A2 receptors.

:p
 
Just want to check on the difference between Yohimbe 1111mg by Optimum Nutrition and the Yohimbine topical that this board is referring to. Can these tablets be used for the topical application? I already have a bottle of the 1111mg. Tried taking an oral dose. Didn't really like the effects. Felt like I was on speed. Lots of sweating and fast heart rate. Bottle recommends two tablets/day. Does anyone have any experience or comments. Would like to use these tablets somehow, if possible.

Thanks.
 
Yohimbe= herb- many different and potentially harmful alkaloids- sort of OK for oral use- USELESS for topical

yohimbine HCL= safer, better, more effective orally- VERY EFFECTIVE TOPICALLY

yohimbe=herb of varying potency and purity
yohimbine=chemical and pure(if USP)
 
Since I will be using it in the morning and i workout before i shower, should i prep my love handles with alcohol beforehand? then i can use it in the afternoon when i take a shower without the alcohol because pores will be open after hot shower, right?



thanks,
Rich
 
saint,

Cleaning the site with alcohol will improve uptake, though it is not necessary(if you use alcohol, grain is preferable). Exfoliation is MORE important. Ideally you should NOT use the same site twice in the same day, though you can.
 
so i shouldn't just concentrate on one area. could i put it on my love handles and then on my abs in the same day?



Rich
 
saint,
absolutely.
btw- while thighs and buttocks and low back may not be areas of prime concern... most men and women will get very good results with applications there as well.
 
well i ordered some last night, when it comes in i will keep you posted... i figured i have wasted money on a lot of supplements but that is the way i have found the ones that i believe to work as well... so what the heck :)


Rich
 
? for you Mac, I know the results may vary from person to person. Is it better to take orally or apply topically? As far as fatty gyno tissue?:confused:
 
TOPICALLY-
FOR BEST FAT LOSS-
will also give limited but even stimulation

ORALLY-
AS A STIMULANT-
will also result in limited fat loss, rather quick spike as a stimulant (good at start of workout)
 
Macro-
Am about to start topical app. to try and get rid of my damn "love handles" Will keep you posted on how it goes. BTW-am down to 264 right now. Yohimbine has been working great for some fat loss and stim effect for workouts just figure will try it topically now. As always thanks for you advice.
 
I'm another newbie interested in getting rid of my handles, but I have a few questions...

1: I see most of the persons who post here use Yohi HCL and a carrier but not allot of posts with positive results about Yohimburn....Is one or the other better?

2: Water retention question. I know of a pill called Teraxatol (or something close to that spelling) that is supposed to get rid of extra water weight...is this something you could use to lower water retention while using Yohimburn?

3: I am currentlly on the MuscleTech Stack (Anotesen - Nortesen - Acetabolin II - and Hydroxycut occasionally). Is it safe to do this in conjunction with Yohimburn?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Merlin
 
One of the reasons there are not a lot of posts about Yohimburn is that the product has only been on the market for a few weeks and not many people have had a chance to evaluate it. Some were lucky enough to get advanced trails and those people are some of the ones posting great results from it.

WWW.ANABOLICFITNESS.NET
 
I just purchased Zostrix, but its Capsaicin (0.075%) not (0.025%) What is the best thing to use to dilute it? Would Aloe work?

Thanks
 
FJmerlin,

YOHIMBURN is relatively new (only released 3wks ago), so feedback is limited. Though the formula is based upon what carriers have worked best and people using the pre release delivery solution (the basis for yohimburn) have gotten very good results.

Megabump,
aloe is a good choice to dilute it.
 
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ZOSTRIX burn baby burn

just apply the YOHI with the MP carrier and put on last the ZOS CAPSAICIN ......thats the best way , and good for keeping water levels down
 
Hey macro, I know the dose depends on the sensitivity of the person's skin but I decided to try it today chest fat. Well everything was okay while I went to the gym. After taking a shower, the area around my nipples and the nipples themselves hurt. I know it's not gyno b/c I've never had this type of feeling plus I'm not on anything. It was only 40mg each side. Is that what you mean by sensitivity or is the yohimbine just working?
 
mp on yohi

hey mac daddy , i have ? about using yohi while not dieting . just trying to keep those A2's from filling out again cause they are so prone to doing so ? i want to gain weight now on a very good regimen and by using yohi at the same time , will that keep those frggn prone area's from plumping back up ?
 
delinquint,

The most likely reason that your nipples hurt is because the peppermint and yohimbine both will make your nipples very erect- which means that the will be more sensitive and will also RUB more against your clothing.

Raider,

It will help with fat accumulation, but it is MOST effective used when dieting-
 
Macro, forgive me for asking perhaps a question that has been asked before, but i have read your excellent yohimbine post and couldn't find the answer. If i used the product whilst dieting (thus burning the fatty acids from my stubborn fat cells), and then regained the weight, would these fat cells still be able to fill back up with the same type of fat? Would it be less likely?

In other words, if i managed to lose 10lbs whilst using it, burned off the stubborn fat, and then regained 10lbs back, would i look slightly better than before?
 
In other words, if i managed to lose 10lbs whilst using it, burned off the stubborn fat, and then regained 10lbs back, would i look slightly better than before?
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Why would you EVEN THINK about regaining tha fat back??
Your mentality is off.

Fix up your mind a little bit , ,before you spend 70 bucks on yohimbine and waste time and effort on your diet.

Yohimbine and Diet won't do shit if your mindset is "what if i gain the fat bacK, will it be better looking fat?" - that's just stupid shit to ask.

You shouldn't even be thinkin that.

Later.
 
Sorry, i didn't make myself clear enough. It's a hypothetical question, i'm just trying to get a better understanding of how exactly it impacts the fat cells. But anyway, i wouldn't care if i regained the weight - i look ok right now apart from my chest.
 
Tha One CrumCake said:


Why would you EVEN THINK about regaining tha fat back??
Your mentality is off.

Fix up your mind a little bit , ,before you spend 70 bucks on yohimbine and waste time and effort on your diet.

Yohimbine and Diet won't do shit if your mindset is "what if i gain the fat bacK, will it be better looking fat?" - that's just stupid shit to ask.

You shouldn't even be thinkin that.

Later.
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Its illogical to assume that someone who diets down to 3 or 4% bf will not gain any of it back. You cant stay there forever. Any bodybuilder who competes will lose fat and gain fat back on a regular basis, so its a legitimate question. Since topical yohimbine is supposed to work best on that last bit of stubborn fat, it should be safe to assume that more than one person is using it to get down to seriously low body fat levels.

You should think twice about jumping down someones throat for asking a question... flaming a legitimate question just makes u look bad.
 
Lungs,

if the same conditions exist as as when the fat was first accumulated- excess calories and estrogen- then yes-

if not then it will be less likely.

I will post some tips on how to minimize returns of Estrogenic fat
later today.

peace
 
shipping times for anabolic fitness store?

ulter,
maybe you can answer this. I ordered my Yohi HCL about 10days ago from the AF Store. How much longer should I expect to wait?
 
dirkpitt51...no need to wory my friend. My bottle got delayed also. They are selling this shit so fast tha they are getting backed up with orders. I ordered 3 times with no problems exept the last one got bumped like 5 days. But other then that I can vouch for anobolic fitness.

PS...MACRO you are the man...keep it up bro. THis thread rules. I started bulking while using it on my stomach and the fat cell seem to be staying some what supressed. Usually at this stage of my bulking my abs are almost gone.
 
yohi the one and only spot reducer

Thanks Buld0g,
thats the type of stuff i am talking about ....... those are the types od responses i want to seeeeee . so i will be in good shape after using DNP and Yohi together . b1 , b2, b3 and a1 a2's
all gone dead thanks to mp and 101 im all set .
 
Thanks macro. I did have my hormone levels checked around 3 months ago, and they were perfectly normal for somebody my age. Hopefully, the estrogen surge occured when i was a lot younger and things have got back to normal.

Looking forward to those tips for keeping your estrogen down! I'm not sticking testosterone in my vains every day...
 
Macro: Buld0g posted that yohimburn helps keep fat off while bulking, however I cannot claim the same.

I *LOVE* it when I do cardio 6x/wk, but right now I'm trying to put on lotsa lean mass (yes, even though it's just an anavar-only cycle), and have been eating A LOT (clean-ish, though) to the point where my abs have started to vanish, all while using the mix 2x/day. It's not really helping that much...

Do you recommend I save it for when I'm off teh anavar and back to cardio/dnp/clen/eca, during which time it's worked WONDERS for me in the past, or should I keep applying it during my "bulking" stage as a prophylactic against excess fat?

Thx.
 
buld0g,
thanks for the assurance, but the shit just arrived today. damn, it doesn't look like there's much in the the bottle. I guess I'm going to have to read through this thread to find out how to measure this stuff.

--soon to be ripped like I was
 
dirkpitt,
if you got powder it should come with a microscoop (30mg)
if you got yohimburn it comes with a pippette.
(1/4 pipette=apprx 35mg)

DaMan,

best results when dieting- though as you can see with bulking results vary- though the leaner you are the more helpful it will probably be. (supplements used during bulking (ie..test or non aromatic) will affect this greatly)



Lungs,

ways to minimize estrogen
1. zinc + copper supplement
2. arimidex (especially if using test)
3. water and lots of it.

Since you live in england (which, as a nation, has one of the highest levels of environmental estrogens) DRINK DISTILLED WATER.

more estrogen info later
 
How CARDIO-dependent are results? Does Yhcl require cardio to work better, or is it the same without? (obviously i lose more fat cardio-ing, but i'm wondering about the yhcl's impact)
 
Hey guys - Just wondering if anyone has any positive feedback about yohimburn yet. I know it is still kinda early but ya never know.

Thanks
Merlin
 
I have been trying out the Yohimburn... I previously tried out the powder with Icy Hot as a carrier. I am ready to go on record with my results, but first I will say that I have been on a very low carb diet, and also using Adipokinetix and a few other herbal fat burners... so I cannot conclusively state without reservation that the results seen are soley the result of using Yohimbine HCL as a topial fat loss agent.

In any case... I think it works. I see veins where I couldn't see them before. There are still some stubborn areas in the lower back and upper outer quadrants of the glutes that have not responded as well as I would have hoped.

Additionally, this is not really a product for major fat loss... if you are a big fat slobbering pig with over 20% BF don't waste your money. It would be cheaper to get liposuction. However, for the elite bodybuilder, or fitness enthusiast with a fairly low % BF, YHCL will help to get rid of some of the stubborn fat. It costs... but if you only have ounces here and there to chisel out (and NOT pounds) it is worth it.
 
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