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circusgirl
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Ok, I've taken all the advice on here and the consensus is a) I'd do better to diet first rather than bulk as my bf% is not particularly low (over 20%) and gains go on in the same ratio as existing body composition and b) going for the ckd diet.
I'm planning on getting most of my carbs from spinach and brocolli and the like, maybe a few tomoatoes as salad veg. Fats from olive oil, veggie oil, some chicken, eggs, tuna. Plan to keep saturated fats in my diet at 10% of total intake or lower.
My meal plans look a bit like this (4 meals a day only - as otherwise I end up with too much protein):
breakfast: 3 eggs fried in 2 tblspns extra virgin olive oil, and cup of spinach.
lunch: salad consisting of either 2 chicken breasts or 2 tins of water-canned tuna, plus either a home-made olive oil and vinegar dressing or some chilli pickle (pataks range, no carbs so speak of), and salad beg, spinach, brocolli type veg accompaniment. I plan on varying the veg.
pre-workout snack (I'll explain this below): some cooked oatmeal with a scoop of protein powder. Otherwise I will NOT feel like working out, guaranteed.
dinner: more tuna/chicken/lean meat, veggies, no carb-stuff like potatoes or rice.
THis all comes to 1800-2200 cas dependinh on the quantity of olive oil/veggie oil in the salad dressings and sauces.
Should I eat something post workout? I will be taking 600mg of ALA daily, I hope that I can achieve ketosis although I will be taking in 80g of carbs daily through the ALA's effect. The aim of the oatmeal at 4pm or so is to a) cut through any carb carvings with a small amount of healthy low GI carbs and b) give me energy to lift.
I could take my ALA at this point, or should I stick to 300mg mornings, 300 evenings?
Workouts - usual 4 days weights, 2 karate (2 hours), plus 3 HIIT sessions or so. Walking to and from work and town and shops about an hour a day. I'll be making some modifications to my lifting schedule as I don't expect much in the way of gains while dieting.
Do I need to add in some long slow cardio (please say no!)?
I plan to do carb ups with oatmeal, brown rice, and some "forbidden goodies" as well.
This should give me more incentive not to cheat, as cheating will get me out of ketosis and fuck up my diet.
I've tried something like this today, although I had more carbs than I should, as I was lying a new floor in part of my appartment. I plan to get all home improvement and other commitments out of the way this week so I can spend a few months concentrating on getting my diet to work. Then I can go back to my sewing hobby and make some kick ass new threads to fit the new bod (with plenty of room in the thighs and chest of course to make room for future bulking gains!).
input appreciated.
I'm planning on getting most of my carbs from spinach and brocolli and the like, maybe a few tomoatoes as salad veg. Fats from olive oil, veggie oil, some chicken, eggs, tuna. Plan to keep saturated fats in my diet at 10% of total intake or lower.
My meal plans look a bit like this (4 meals a day only - as otherwise I end up with too much protein):
breakfast: 3 eggs fried in 2 tblspns extra virgin olive oil, and cup of spinach.
lunch: salad consisting of either 2 chicken breasts or 2 tins of water-canned tuna, plus either a home-made olive oil and vinegar dressing or some chilli pickle (pataks range, no carbs so speak of), and salad beg, spinach, brocolli type veg accompaniment. I plan on varying the veg.
pre-workout snack (I'll explain this below): some cooked oatmeal with a scoop of protein powder. Otherwise I will NOT feel like working out, guaranteed.
dinner: more tuna/chicken/lean meat, veggies, no carb-stuff like potatoes or rice.
THis all comes to 1800-2200 cas dependinh on the quantity of olive oil/veggie oil in the salad dressings and sauces.
Should I eat something post workout? I will be taking 600mg of ALA daily, I hope that I can achieve ketosis although I will be taking in 80g of carbs daily through the ALA's effect. The aim of the oatmeal at 4pm or so is to a) cut through any carb carvings with a small amount of healthy low GI carbs and b) give me energy to lift.
I could take my ALA at this point, or should I stick to 300mg mornings, 300 evenings?
Workouts - usual 4 days weights, 2 karate (2 hours), plus 3 HIIT sessions or so. Walking to and from work and town and shops about an hour a day. I'll be making some modifications to my lifting schedule as I don't expect much in the way of gains while dieting.
Do I need to add in some long slow cardio (please say no!)?
I plan to do carb ups with oatmeal, brown rice, and some "forbidden goodies" as well.
This should give me more incentive not to cheat, as cheating will get me out of ketosis and fuck up my diet.
I've tried something like this today, although I had more carbs than I should, as I was lying a new floor in part of my appartment. I plan to get all home improvement and other commitments out of the way this week so I can spend a few months concentrating on getting my diet to work. Then I can go back to my sewing hobby and make some kick ass new threads to fit the new bod (with plenty of room in the thighs and chest of course to make room for future bulking gains!).
input appreciated.
