would u cosider this overtraining,on cycle

[maxes21]

im a full 4 weeks into my cycle and im up 20lbs. my cycle looks like this.
testoviron 250mg every 5 days for 10 weeks
d-bol 20mg first week25 mg next 10 days and 30mg last 10 days. weeks 1-4

i stoped noticeing the the weight gains from the dbol at the start of week 4 but the strenght gains kept comeing.

my weekly workout look like this

monday-chest, tris and legs
tuesday-back,bis
wendsday-shoulders
thursday-chest,tris and legs
friday-back and bis
saturday-shoulders

i switch it up every week so im not doing the same routine over and over again.and mix up the workouts i do every day
i usualy do 4 sets of 4 for each muscle group,and no more then that. would some of you consider this overtraining??

 

[overrx]

that is over training, if you want to push yourself , you'll be bordering overtrainig but after your routine is done (Seems to be every 3 days) take a rest...i.e. rest thursday, following monday, friday...., thats still pushing it tho imo

 

[maxes21]

i though about giveing my self 1 more rest day also, but i find that after 2 days my muscles are totaly recovered. and the size increase im getting is great. maybe if i break my morkouts down to 3 sets of 4 for each body part then that would be better and not as close to overtraining. what do u think?

 

[Nathan]

First, are you using any anti-e's? Otherwise, half of what you've gained could be water. Second, you're attacking this the wrong way. There is no fixed number of sets to do that applies to every bodypart - each muscle is different and needs to be treated as such. Try a 7 day split, with 2 days off. Here's the # of sets for each bodypart:

chest - 10-11
back - 12-13
shoulders - 9-10
traps - 6
bi's - 6
tri's - 6
forearms - 5-6
quads - 19-11
hams - 6
calves - 6
abs - if you're not using any heavy weight, then really whatever you want, if you're going heavy then 6-7

Those sets are once a week.

 

[decem]

max.... if it's working for ya.. keep it... if it aint.. change it.

i have a friend.. all natural... won't work out for 3 months.. then works out for 26 days straight and is fucking yoked.. then after his 26 days he'll workout for like 8-10 days in a row.. then take a little break..


it's all what works for YOU.

 

[deez]

Im no guru but i think everyone is so very different when it comes to routines. Personally besides having a set day when i do my parts which is below.......I dont believe in having a set routine for each part with specific reps and sets.

mon- chest
tues- back
wens-bis tris
thurs-legs
fri-shoulders

I love this mix. Monday i feel is my best day after the long weekend. So Im pumped to do my one of my most important areas. And friday i like to go out any chase the females so i like to feel good about myself and feel swoll from a good shoulder workout. And as far as sets are concerened i just go along with what i feel i need. You know, i definitely hit the important shit, but i mix alot of things up and I feel like that enables you to work different stabalizers and muscle groups. Also if you feel like a part is lacking, like right now i am tryin to expand my chest upwards towards my neck, then i focus on that area more. I think guys should adapt to what they feel like they need. I personally would not like to have a log book or a set time to do my workouts. I do what i want in th gym and for however long i think it takes to get a good pump without overtraining. I get great gains form this workout for myself and it works for me and the guys that have trained with me are getting great gains like they never have before. But what works for me might not be right for someone else. Just my 2 cents. Peace bros

 

[IronFist]

If you are doing chest, tri's and legs all in one day, you are cheating yourself. you are not going to get good results doing that and something is likely to get neglected,.

 

[musclebones]

following up on what Ironfist said you should always let legs have there own day. They need there own day. Bloodflow won't get into them right .. right after a chest workout .. (among other reasons..

 

[DaMan]

monday-chest, tris and legs
tuesday-back,bis
wendsday-shoulders
thursday-chest,tris and legs
friday-back and bis
saturday-shoulders

i switch it up every week so im not doing the same routine over

Mine is the same except I moved legs to shoulder day (one big bodypart per workout) and added a day of rest after the 3 days. Been working very well and ran it past my personal trainer who has no prob with it either.

re avoiding overtraining, I just listen to my body. If my back is still sore, even the slightest bit, from the last workout, i just rest another day and do cardio & abs instead... if i had a terrible back workout sometimes i even skip my rest day to make it up.

what does everyone else think?

 

[maxes21]

If you are doing chest, tri's and legs all in one day, you are cheating yourself. you are not going to get good results doing that and something is likely to get neglected, ironfist what are u talking about??

when you work your chest your also working your tris, push and pull movements go togethere like chest and tri workouts which are push and back and biceps which are pull movements. im getting more of a benifit by woking those muscle groups together rather than doing chest and bi or back and tri, im goning to be swiching my legs to shoulder day. usualy when i do legs on monday with chest and tri's. after the chest workout i go directly to tri and legs, ill do a set of tricep's and right after that set i do legs like squat's, and then go do the other sets of tris,and swiching back and forth betweeen the tooo.

decem i like what you said and im going to stay with my workout routine since i have always seen good results with that, im just going to swich it up a little. and i only leave the gym when i can feel that i have worked my muscles to the fullest but not too hard where they hurt for over a day.

nathan no i am not useing any anti e's and yes i have put on a little water but not much, im taking pics this monday and will post them as soon as possible.yes i go heavy on my big muscle group workouts like bench press w/barbell, and shoulder press w/barbell i also lift heave with some back workouts. when i do lift heavey i range in reps of 4-6. but with all the other workouts i do 10-12 reps.

 

[badazzwhitedude]

I personally think that could very well be overtraining. The pro's train twice a day, with quite long sessions. But then again, they use massive amounts of gear, which supresses cortisol production, which, in turn, will allow you to train much harder and longer without overtraining. You are not on a massive cycle by anymeans.

Your muscles grow while resting, in response to the hard work that you subject them to while lifting weights. This is a "side effect" of lifting weights. When you lift weights, you are breaking down muscle tissue. If you overtrain, you will never grow. I would tone it down a bit if it were me.