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Would this cycle be too harsh on the liver???
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bbigman2000
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No you will be fine on that bro, only the dbol is really toxic, but you are not going to any damage with that amount, and over such a short period. Go ahead and Good Gains to you !!
PITBULL_187
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I would run the test for 10 weeks and dbol up to 1-6 and winny 6-12.
solidspine
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I disagree with some of the above post,
The cycle looks ok,
just don’t overlap your whinny and d-bol
and I would run test the whole ten weeks.
I’m doing a similar cycle right now- week 2
Decem what are your stats, how big are you and what do you want to accomplish?
The cycle looks ok,
just don’t overlap your whinny and d-bol
and I would run test the whole ten weeks.
I’m doing a similar cycle right now- week 2
Decem what are your stats, how big are you and what do you want to accomplish?
solidspine
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I just looked at your cycle again,
You could easily bump the test to 800mg per week and be fine.
Like I said, doing a similar cycle,
I have been taking nolvadex daily and have 5000iu HCG for post cycle
You could easily bump the test to 800mg per week and be fine.
Like I said, doing a similar cycle,
I have been taking nolvadex daily and have 5000iu HCG for post cycle
ultragainz
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hit the winny eod
well right now i'm 5'11", 190lbs, 10-12 % BF. My pics are on the Pics board on the Are you the man you say you are thread, but since breaking my hand and taking 7 weeks off, i've lost some muscle and gained some fat.
i'm trying to figure out the best cycle to do with the gear i have, and a good second cycle to with the remaining gear without having to buy TOO much more. i want to gain 15-20 lbs each time but without TOO much water weight. Here's what i have gear wise:
5000mg winny tabs
3000mg sust
2400mg t200
3000mg deca
6000mg fina
1250mg clomid
600mg nolva20
i respond well to test. never tried fina, dbol, winny.
here's the two cycles i was looking at doing with my current gear:
ONE
30mg dbol ED wks 1-5
300mg t200 wks 1-8
300mg deca wks 1-10
50mg winny ED wks 7-12
TWO
500mg sust wks1-3
75mg fina ED wks 1-8
250mg sust wks 4-9
50mg winny wks 6-11
i guess i could up the dosages of test in the first cycle and get some more t200 for the second. i'll also probably get some arimidex, clomid, nolva, dbol from the man this week as well.
so given the above info, what do you guys think?
i'm trying to figure out the best cycle to do with the gear i have, and a good second cycle to with the remaining gear without having to buy TOO much more. i want to gain 15-20 lbs each time but without TOO much water weight. Here's what i have gear wise:
5000mg winny tabs
3000mg sust
2400mg t200
3000mg deca
6000mg fina
1250mg clomid
600mg nolva20
i respond well to test. never tried fina, dbol, winny.
here's the two cycles i was looking at doing with my current gear:
ONE
30mg dbol ED wks 1-5
300mg t200 wks 1-8
300mg deca wks 1-10
50mg winny ED wks 7-12
TWO
500mg sust wks1-3
75mg fina ED wks 1-8
250mg sust wks 4-9
50mg winny wks 6-11
i guess i could up the dosages of test in the first cycle and get some more t200 for the second. i'll also probably get some arimidex, clomid, nolva, dbol from the man this week as well.
so given the above info, what do you guys think?
PITBULL_187
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well imediatly after you finish dbol you can start winny, they wont over lap because of their short half life. Why do you think you need to take clomid so sonn after you finish winny
PITBULL_187 said:
well.. i guess the way i'm thinking is that by giving 2-3 weeks between the dbol and winny, it might give my liver a little breather.. and then by continuing the winny for longer than the test/deca and all the way up to when i take the clomid, it might help solidify my gains..
or am i way off?
Ok, you respond well to test, and I am not a big fan of large doses (but am of small ones) so take what I put down with a grain of salt.
For your original cycle, it looks good, not overly harsh, etc. If anything, I would switch the test and deca.
Deca will be in you 3 weeks after you stop. So I would change it to test for 10 weeks, deca for 8, or you could run the deca for 10 weeks.
Ok, forget that, you listed what you have, you don't want to get anything else...and you want 2 cycles.
One:
dbol: 30mg/day weeks 1-4
test: 200-300mg/week weeks 1-10
deca: 300mg/week weeks 1-10
winny: 50mg/day weeks 7-12
Looks good what you have, but I changed some since you are asking for opinions. In other words
keep what you want unless this one floats your boat.
Two:
test: 200-300mg/week weeks 1-10
winny: 50mg day weeks 1-4
fina: 75mg/day weeks 4-10
winny: 100mg/day weeks 6-10
Obviously Two is a cutting cycle. You should come off of cycle 2 hard as nails. And cycle #1 will give some fair gains of muscle, but I don't know how great. If anything, I would add 600mg/eq/week to cycle #1. But that's me. And it's also an additional $200-250. But remember, I am not a big fan of high test doses, and I prefer the anabolics.
hth
tx
For your original cycle, it looks good, not overly harsh, etc. If anything, I would switch the test and deca.
Deca will be in you 3 weeks after you stop. So I would change it to test for 10 weeks, deca for 8, or you could run the deca for 10 weeks.
Ok, forget that, you listed what you have, you don't want to get anything else...and you want 2 cycles.
One:
dbol: 30mg/day weeks 1-4
test: 200-300mg/week weeks 1-10
deca: 300mg/week weeks 1-10
winny: 50mg/day weeks 7-12
Looks good what you have, but I changed some since you are asking for opinions. In other words
keep what you want unless this one floats your boat.
Two:
test: 200-300mg/week weeks 1-10
winny: 50mg day weeks 1-4
fina: 75mg/day weeks 4-10
winny: 100mg/day weeks 6-10
Obviously Two is a cutting cycle. You should come off of cycle 2 hard as nails. And cycle #1 will give some fair gains of muscle, but I don't know how great. If anything, I would add 600mg/eq/week to cycle #1. But that's me. And it's also an additional $200-250. But remember, I am not a big fan of high test doses, and I prefer the anabolics.
hth
tx
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thanks tx.
i like the second cutting-cycle you drew up.. but after you weren't so optimistic about the cycle ONE, i think i will up the test to at least 400mg/week if not 500mg..
ah crap.. i just looked at the second cutting cyle, and i ain't go that much winny..
after cycle one i'll have 58 tabs winny50 left. so that second cycle won't work.
so, i'll up the dosage on cycle one:
test - 400mg/500mg wks 1-8/10
deca - 300/375 wks 1-8/10
dbol - 30mg ED wks 1-5
winny - 50mg ED wks 6-11 or 7-12
second cycle - i'll buy more test and more dbol
dbol - 50mg ED wks 1-5
test - 200mg wks 1-10
fina - 75mg ED wks 4-10
winny - 50mg ED wks 5-10
how bout that??
i like the second cutting-cycle you drew up.. but after you weren't so optimistic about the cycle ONE, i think i will up the test to at least 400mg/week if not 500mg..
ah crap.. i just looked at the second cutting cyle, and i ain't go that much winny..
after cycle one i'll have 58 tabs winny50 left. so that second cycle won't work.
so, i'll up the dosage on cycle one:
test - 400mg/500mg wks 1-8/10
deca - 300/375 wks 1-8/10
dbol - 30mg ED wks 1-5
winny - 50mg ED wks 6-11 or 7-12
second cycle - i'll buy more test and more dbol
dbol - 50mg ED wks 1-5
test - 200mg wks 1-10
fina - 75mg ED wks 4-10
winny - 50mg ED wks 5-10
how bout that??
decem said:
Looks good!
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